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Arthur Frayn Veterans Of Liberation Ltd. THORN Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.23 06:41:00 - [1] Or can I take someone's word for it? Like many gamers, I like to try new things and sometimes I get bored of old things. I'm taking a couple of weeks off from Eve and I've always wondered if games like WoW are worth a try. But considering I love Eve in all its intricacies to bits, can someone please convince me not to give WoW a try if it really is a vastly inferior pile of horsesh**? -- Eve needs a dose of Top Gun without the sweaty shower scenes.
Tarquin Tarquinius Gallente Escorts of Eve	Posted - 2007.12.23 07:14:00 - [2] I loved WoW.....for about 2 weeks. After that it just got redundant. Give the free trial a try. It can't hurt anything...except your bank account if you get hooked. ------ Any factual errors or mistakes in spelling and grammar should be attributed solely to me and not my nation of origin.
SoftRevolution	Posted - 2007.12.23 09:37:00 - [3] Edited by: SoftRevolution on 23/12/2007 09:37:39 I enjoyed it for the first couple of months so be prepared for odd occurances like... having fun. It's probably more fun if you can get some friends to play it with. EVE RELATED CONTENT
Kirjava Lothian Quay Industries Zzz	Posted - 2007.12.23 09:53:00 - [4] I played it, didn't do much for me, but I know people that live to login to it. ~Nyron Originally by: SoftRevolution Not liking Haruhi is like not liking puppies or rainbows or whisky.
Apocryphai Caldari	Posted - 2007.12.23 10:01:00 - [5] WoW is a very polished game, that does what it does extremely well. It's typical Blizzard design, in that it takes the best parts of an existing genre (the kill monsters for xp and loot and level up a character MMORPG) and refines them expertly. It's a PvE game, and it's a very, very good one if you like PvE. Character development, looting, levelling, questing, all done superbly. However it's a grind game. It does PvP extremely badly. It has effectively no endgame other than tedious grinding and raiding, and it suffers terribly from mudflation - i.e. all your achievements will be rendered worthless come the next expansion, in an ever-repeating cycle that leaves old content behind forever. But don't be fooled by the rabid anti-WoW sentiments on these forums. If you like what WoW does (i.e. PvE and character levelling) it's the best there is. If you like PvP then EVE is the best there is :) ________________________________________________________________ Originally by: Victor Valka What the skull-chick said.
ranna sleeper White Shadow Imperium Burning Horizons	Posted - 2007.12.23 10:01:00 - [6] i sadly spent a year and a half playing it, i finally got so tired of it all i'd ever do was pvp because of how stupidly redundant the thing got... it was always "jump thru multiple hoops to finish this quest chain for very little reward, rinse and repeat for 20 hours, level up, but dont get anything new this level since new skills are only on even levels"... honestly, i much prefer eve over it. yes some skills take stupidly long amounts of time to train, and yes mission running and ratting may get to be a bore, but unlike wow if you dont feel like playing eve, you just log in, set a long skill, and go on about your life for however long the skill is. you wont make isk doing it, but you can still become better w/o wasting stupid amounts of time mindlessly killing something just to barly gain any reward.
ry ry StateCorp Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2007.12.23 11:36:00 - [7] wow is a great game, but it has a finite lifespan. eventually you'll either burn out, or run out of stuff you can do. play it, enjoy it, come back to eve. easy. *again.
Sister Impotentata Elite Angels Of Death	Posted - 2007.12.23 12:20:00 - [8] Originally by: Apocryphai WoW is a very polished game, that does what it does extremely well. It's typical Blizzard design, in that it takes the best parts of an existing genre (the kill monsters for xp and loot and level up a character MMORPG) and refines them expertly. It's a PvE game, and it's a very, very good one if you like PvE. Character development, looting, levelling, questing, all done superbly. All this. WoW is a great game. Problem is, unless you are a 38 year old woman who really doesn't know an elf from a dwarf, you've got a good idea how you'll be developing your character from the get-go. Pally: Some magic pally armor, a nice pally helmet, A really big **-off shiny sword, or maybe an almost as big pleas-sod-off sword, and a pally shield. Probably some rings and trinkets to increase your MP recharge, or boost your heals. Thief: +4 str, +4 sta LEATHER ARMOR, matching daggers, trinkets to make you go faster. Boots o' Speed. Oh that's right, you dinged three times last night. Gonna have to spend tonight looking for new daggers, so you can ding three times tomorrow night. It's like knowing instinctively as a brand new EVE player how to set up a tank for a Drake. Would you like two SEs with that, or just the one? I'm still undecided. ----- TANSTAAFL Originally by:** Psycho John Petrucci If there's any point where you feel it's too difficult, then just stop. Because you just, you don't have it, you're just not good.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.23 12:44:00 - [9] WoW is a single player game (complete with finite playability with a definite "and now it's over" gameplay stop) which you can play with 100's of friends on line. If thats what you want from a game, WoW is a polished and perfect example of it. However, what I consider to be the meat of a good MMO is the freedom of play, open endedness, ability to impact on a persistent world, and dynamic community. WoW doesn't do any of this well, so I consider it "bad" as an MMO. ------ Originally by: CCP Prism X There's no such thing as playing too much EvE! You all obviously need more accounts!
Karma Gallente Vortex Incorporated	Posted - 2007.12.23 13:25:00 - [10] WoW is a great game... till you reach the current level-cap, which is currently 70. up to that point, the quests give you a feeling of an evolving world... there are several chains of quests that are truly epic... after you hit the level cap, all you can really do to progress is run the same instances over and over and over and over and over and over again hoping for one or two items to drop which will increase your damage or health or mana perhaps 1% ... but as I said, up till that point, it's a cool place to be... and getting to the level cap the first time can take over 5 months ;) you can try it out for 2 weeks for free now, just like in EVE.
Mudkest Ekliptika Engineers Ekliptika	Posted - 2007.12.23 13:30:00 - [11] Originally by: Apocryphai But don't be fooled by the rabid anti-WoW sentiments on these forums. If you like what WoW does (i.e. PvE and character levelling) it's the best there is. If you like PvP then EVE is the best there is :) and if you like crafting or the whole economics side of eve then stick with eve as those 2 are pretty much non-existant in wow(or just abuot any other mmog I've tried) 8) crafting in wow is limited and mostly pointless, and there's no economy in wow ----- GIEV custom ship paint jobs! I want my hello-kitty-kessie! For your safety do not destroy vital testing apparatus
7shining7one7 Quafe Paladins	Posted - 2007.12.23 13:34:00 - [12] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 23/12/2007 13:34:38 wow is crap after 3-4 months of casual gameplay. and the graphics suck. and it's played by obnoxious kiddies mostly. and the ppl who play it tend to be rather stupid aswell, or become such.
Gyfrex Minmatar Defile.	Posted - 2007.12.23 13:34:00 - [13] Originally by: Mudkest and if you like crafting or the whole economics side of eve then stick with eve as those 2 are pretty much non-existant in wow(or just abuot any other mmog I've tried) 8) crafting in wow is limited and mostly pointless, and there's no economy in wow This. WoW is a good game, but its got a very limited field in which its good at...PVE, which in itself gets boring after a while. The PVP in it was fairly enjoyable at the mid level range where its not all about people with money because the good equipment is all looted, but at the higher or lower level ranges if you don't have gold to buy stuff you might aswell just pve until you do. I'd say try WoW out for a while. If you like it, you like it, if you don't...then you can join the rest of us in spewing rabid hate messages against it! ---
Sister Impotentata Elite Angels Of Death	Posted - 2007.12.23 13:36:00 - [14] With the possible exception of Hello Kitty Online, WoW is the game where the female ass you are looking at in game is most likely to be connected to a real female. ----- TANSTAAFL Originally by: Psycho John Petrucci If there's any point where you feel it's too difficult, then just stop. Because you just, you don't have it, you're just not good.
Gyfrex Minmatar Defile.	Posted - 2007.12.23 13:38:00 - [15] Originally by: Sister Impotentata With the possible exception of Hello Kitty Online, WoW is the game where the female ass you are looking at in game is most likely to be connected to a real female. Most of the girls (and I made sure to confirm it as such) I met when playing WoW played as undead, the cow people, or trolls. Not exactly the type of female characters you'd (normally) stare at. ---
Karma Gallente Vortex Incorporated	Posted - 2007.12.23 14:00:00 - [16] Originally by: Gyfrex Most of the girls (and I made sure to confirm it as such) I met when playing WoW played as undead, the cow people, or trolls. Not exactly the type of female characters you'd (normally) stare at. and all of the level 14 human males play nightelf females. aye.
Gojyu Ever Flow Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.12.23 14:01:00 - [17] I'd suggest giving the free trial a go before you jump to any conclusions. Basing your decision off of the opinions of a hostile forum community is about as intelligent as someone deciding they don't like eve because they've only read about dev's cheating and the scammers. In my opinion, wow offers a lot of things eve doesn't, cruising around soulless system abc-xyz is nothing compared to wandering into ashenvale forest for the first time, and the pve in wow has a complexity and depth you simply do not find in eve. It does have its faults, however. Once you hit 70, the only real way forward with your character is to join a raiding guild. And while I loved raiding, it's not for everyone. World pvp has pretty much gone, but still, roll up a character on a pvp realm and you might get a taste of the old school wow gank squad, a frustrating experience at the best of times, so, grab a trial and after 14 days come back and tell us what you think Now accepting signature commissions, contact me in-game for pricing
Avery Fatwallet	Posted - 2007.12.23 18:27:00 - [18] well... i always thought the mmorpg part of wow is... neglectable. imho its a stupid grinding thing, even if you team up to level, you still HAVE to level and grind, and its not going any faster. so if youre into mindless grinding, maybe yeah, i enjoy it once in a while too, but my personal opinion is: get diablo2 for similar but better experience with sucky sucky graphics. or just try guild wars. (if they didnt kill the game in the last years, i havent been there for quite some time). i really loved the PvE part of guild wars, the pvp part wasnt bad either. ok, youre instanced, when the action starts. but that was never a problem, when i played. tbh i started on release, so it was a real experience to be one of the first to manage to get enlightened. in the end we tried to finish the illumination trials with a level as low as possible. so gw gets my 9/10. you can grind, and if you dont feel like grinding, you can have a challenge by beating the pve part at level4 to 9 (good luck , its possible..)
Mallikan Gallente Spartan Hoplites Rare Faction	Posted - 2007.12.23 18:43:00 - [19] I tried it 3 times. The first time I made it to 40, and was bored to death. The second time I played a completely different class and style and got bored at 30. The third time I played it with my brother, that was more fun, but I got to 58 and got extremely bored. Not worth the time or money spent tbh. --- lol.. I messed up.
Benco97 Gallente Mineral Dynamics	Posted - 2007.12.23 18:45:00 - [20] I have tried again and again to like WoW but I just can't. Everything feels so static or pointless, like I'm levelling just for the sake of levelling and no other reason. Outside of fighting the game has nothing at all in it's favour. Originally by: Kirjava This man speaks the truth, when he farts we count the length in seconds and make squillions buying winning lottery tickets.
Mallikan Gallente Spartan Hoplites Rare Faction	Posted - 2007.12.23 18:52:00 - [21] Originally by: Benco97 I have tried again and again to like WoW but I just can't. Everything feels so static or pointless, like I'm levelling just for the sake of levelling and no other reason. Outside of fighting the game has nothing at all in it's favour. Exactly what it is really, and sadly that's the hook. You level and equip to get to the next level and better equipment, just so you can level and get better equipment. Most fun I had was with pvp twinks.. but even that got older than blue cheese. --- lol.. I messed up.
Motokko	Posted - 2007.12.23 18:56:00 - [22] I played for about a year and half, a lot of that being end game (lvl 60 before BC). I think its very enjoyable to begin with, but once the novelty wears off the big grind to end game gets tedious and feels pretty boring. You know there's no point in getting into gear collection yet since you outgrow it so quick and it becomes worthless so it feels pretty unrewarding. Once you reach end game I think the game really begins proper as long as you're in a large active and friendly guild. This part was fun for a pretty long time although very time consuming. You do eventualy run out of things to do though.
Sister Impotentata Elite Angels Of Death	Posted - 2007.12.23 18:57:00 - [23] Originally by: Avery Fatwallet get diablo2 for similar but better experience with sucky sucky graphics. Oooh. D2. What's the status of that these days? Do any english-speaking persons still play, or is it all, you know, non-english speakers? I have a jingle bells that hangs from the pull-down stairs in the hallway during the holiday season. Every time I bump my head, it sounds like a nice pile of D2 gold. I've had D2 on the brain for a month now. ----- TANSTAAFL Originally by: Psycho John Petrucci If there's any point where you feel it's too difficult, then just stop. Because you just, you don't have it, you're just not good.
Avery Fatwallet	Posted - 2007.12.23 19:10:00 - [24] Edited by: Avery Fatwallet on 23/12/2007 19:13:41 hehe tbh i didnt meet much english spoken people. but i didnt look for them. you got a lot of channels, i think there are people from every part of the world. enough you can start a game once in a while. imho the biggest problem was finding people that still genuinely ENJOY it. most rush/farm/spam or bull**** around. but its still a very decent game, even moreso if you find somebody to play who never finished it before. edit: i really enjoy the ladder resets. too bad those tend to happen during summerime.
Araxmas The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency	Posted - 2007.12.23 19:11:00 - [25] Few things bug me about it 1, Redundancy (Every expansion or if you level up your items are redundant so have to do whatever is needed to get all the best items again) 2, Community is rubbish. You can find a good guild to join and will make good mature friends, but outside that you find out quickly that the rest of them are immature arses. 3, Theres no real teamwork. Guilds are basically just shared chat, theres no player interaction, pvp is rubbish. I only play it now because my friends do so I can play with them occasionally. Apart from that it really isn't that deep. -------- The Derek Quote Pyramid
Motokko	Posted - 2007.12.23 19:17:00 - [26] Edited by: Motokko on 23/12/2007 19:17:19 Originally by: Araxmas 3, Theres no real teamwork. Guilds are basically just shared chat, theres no player interaction, pvp is rubbish. I disagree with that part. My experience of the game was that big team efforts was where all the reward came from (talking end game anyway). For example guild battlegrounds where a lot of fun and good coordination, communication, and tactics were essential for a win when you came up against other pvp guilds. A lot of tactical planning and teamwork was also essential in order to progress through the end game dungeons. Just dont ruin it for yourself and your guild mates by reading strategy guides and such, its much more pleasurable to talk about it and try and work it out as a group. Outside of dungeons and battlegrounds, group efforts also made resource gathering much easier and more enjoyable which was essential for building the write gear and potions in preperation for raids. I guess in the end, the game is what you make it.
Captain Campion Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.12.23 19:30:00 - [27] i tried wow, for about 2 days, then thought ' omg bbq this is lame '
Sister Impotentata Elite Angels Of Death	Posted - 2007.12.23 19:36:00 - [28] Actually I thought cooking was one of the cooler parts of WoW. Take from that what you will. Mmmm. Gooey Spider Cake. ----- TANSTAAFL Originally by: Psycho John Petrucci If there's any point where you feel it's too difficult, then just stop. Because you just, you don't have it, you're just not good.
xxShadexx Retribution Corp. Enelaise	Posted - 2007.12.23 19:41:00 - [29] Been playing it for nearly 3 years off and on. Still love it :) Pvp isnt too bad, just limited. But yeah after you hit 70 and done each instance and raid once, it turns into a pointless grind. -----------------------------------------
Mavil	Posted - 2007.12.23 21:29:00 - [30] I played it for nearly 3 years. It's a great game, there's no denying that. However it has many short-comings (such as PvP and the already adressed problem which renders previous gear worthless a few patches later or come the next expansion pack. The biggest problem I had was that raiding got so serious. If there are 5 raids in 7 days, I'd raid all 5 times because I'm a silly power gamer who loves pretty pixels. This is absolute hell for your social life, and after a while it just led to drama after drama within the guild(s), and it started feeling like some tedious task I had to do. Feels damn good playing EVE again and not actually being "forced" to play X times a week.

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