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Malwyn	Posted - 2007.12.23 13:12:00 - [1] As the subject states. _______________________________________________________
nabort Immoral Tendancies	Posted - 2007.12.23 13:16:00 - [2] Highs full of Large Rails/Arties/Beams. MWD, sensor boosters and tracking comps in the meds. DCU, damage mods and some plates in the lows.
Segmentor Wreckless Abandon	Posted - 2007.12.23 13:27:00 - [3] Things that can lock and at least scratch some paint off at ~200 km. - Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Soros 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.12.23 13:52:00 - [4] Originally by: Segmentor Things that can lock and at least scratch some paint off at ~200 km. id say 150k and thats direct damage (not missiles)
HippoKing Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.23 14:00:00 - [5] Things that are useful in fleets. Including: Sniper Battleships (Tempest/Megathron/Rokh/Any Amarr) Sniper antisupport HACs (Eagle/Zealot/Muninn) Command Ships with useful gang links Fast frigate tacklers Dictors Heavy Dictors More Dictors EW ships (Scorpion/Blackbird) Heavy tacklers (Scimitar/Vagabond)
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition	Posted - 2007.12.23 14:05:00 - [6] Scimitar being used as a heavy tackler makes me
HippoKing Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.23 14:12:00 - [7] Edited by: HippoKing on 23/12/2007 14:12:19 Originally by: Feng Schui Scimitar being used as a heavy tackler makes me Why? Look at the speed, the sig, resistances, slot layout and price. It's wonderful.
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition	Posted - 2007.12.23 14:40:00 - [8] exactly its a logistics ship, not a tackler.
Waxau The Fated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.12.23 14:42:00 - [9] OMMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOGMOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG! HIPPOKING IS BACK! And yes - Caps was deserved this time WB matey :)
Waxau The Fated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.12.23 14:44:00 - [10] Originally by: Feng Schui exactly its a logistics ship, not a tackler. scimitar has high speed, good cap, and as hippo said...a nice slot layout. With that, its immensely good as a tackler.
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2007.12.23 15:59:00 - [11] Originally by: Waxau Originally by: Feng Schui exactly its a logistics ship, not a tackler. scimitar has high speed, good cap, and as hippo said...a nice slot layout. With that, its immensely good as a tackler. and two of them in a group will be very hard to kill indeed
MassonA Caldari coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.12.23 16:18:00 - [12] rapiers and huginns are also good for stopping enemy tacklers reaching your snipers
Anubis Xian Vertigo One	Posted - 2007.12.23 17:16:00 - [13] A viable fleet ship is a ship setup that caters to the lowest common denominator of fleet combat...long range, long range, and then some long range. The general idea is to minimize the possibility of a low number of your fleet being able to hit a target, by making them as long range as possible. Some people think 'sniping' in fleets is about being able to run...which is incorrect...at least from my point of view. Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
Bager Gray	Posted - 2007.12.24 00:12:00 - [14] Depends on the fleet. But i would say you should have a remote repper and weapons in the highs, general tackle, speed, cap booster in mids, and tank in the lows[ some fleets spider tank so no need for rep(just plate tank), other fleets are mixed and spread so you will need rep, just depends on the situation].
Gamesguy Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.12.24 01:01:00 - [15] Originally by: Bager Gray Depends on the fleet. But i would say you should have a remote repper and weapons in the highs, general tackle, speed, cap booster in mids, and tank in the lows[ some fleets spider tank so no need for rep(just plate tank), other fleets are mixed and spread so you will need rep, just depends on the situation]. I'd like to see you trying to coordinate RR with 100 bs, or even be able to lock before the target instapopped. There is a reason RR gangs are called gangs while sniper fleets are called fleets.
Bager Gray Gallente COBRA INC Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.12.24 01:21:00 - [16] All of Bruces fleet fits, even snipers, have RR. With the heavy plate tanks you have time to get rep, usualy. The plate tanks have also been DD tested and survived, we just used the RR after the fight.
Gamesguy Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.12.24 01:42:00 - [17] Originally by: Bager Gray All of Bruces fleet fits, even snipers, have RR. With the heavy plate tanks you have time to get rep, usualy. The plate tanks have also been DD tested and survived, we just used the RR after the fight. No you dont, average time for a target to pop is 5-10 seconds. Not long enough to lock+cycle one remote rep, thats not counting module activation lag. For repping after fight, thats why you have a couple of guardians and have all the BS carry a couple of rep drones. No need to gimp your snipers by fitting a remote rep.
Bager Gray Gallente	Posted - 2007.12.24 01:56:00 - [18] Plate tank with resist last way longer than rep tanks because of the hp buffer. This extra time alows the RR fleets to function.
Toolivus	Posted - 2007.12.24 06:35:00 - [19] Err... no-one suggested an active tank on a sniper bs. What he said was that you're going to die in 5-10 seconds if you're primaried. I'm assuming that that is with a bit of a buffer tank because that's what people tend to fit anyway. Granted, the time will be longer for smaller fights but if the fight gets small enough that you're not killing ships with one or two volleys then it's probably too small to call a fleet.
Danari Amarr Viper Squad Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.12.24 07:35:00 - [20] 150km optimal, 200km lock, fit mwd, cap stable, maximise product(dps,effective hitpoints) End of discussion.
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.24 07:59:00 - [21] Originally by: MassonA rapiers and huginns are also good for stopping enemy tacklers reaching your snipers rather have eagles tbqh. Rapiers and Huginns have long range webs, but they are still very vulnerable to concentrated fire. Eagles and Zealots and Muninns at 100-200km simply arent.
Laboratus Gallente BGG Atrum Tempestas Foedus	Posted - 2007.12.24 12:24:00 - [22] Originally by: HippoKing Things that are useful in fleets. Including: Sniper Battleships (Tempest/Megathron/Rokh/Any Amarr) Sniper antisupport HACs (Eagle/Zealot/Muninn) Command Ships with useful gang links Fast frigate tacklers Dictors Heavy Dictors More Dictors EW ships (Scorpion/Blackbird) Heavy tacklers (Scimitar/Vagabond) Very good description. ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats

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