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Alowishus Shadow Company FreeFall Securities	Posted - 2007.12.27 21:53:00 - [31] I agree with your sentiments but in this case, in that environment, I think it's just extremist violence case #303004305. If it happened to anyone else, anywhere else I might entertain ideas of it being the CIA.
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2007.12.27 21:54:00 - [32] Originally by: Gallente Citizen2007041418 Originally by: Zalathar US and UK supported Bhutto, not Musharaf, and Bhutto's death actually helps Musharaf, and might actually bring more stabiliy to Pakistan, not divide it. Well of course they support some politics with they left hand and kill the same politics with their right one. They've been doing it for ages. They don't need stability, the more middle-hot conflicts, the better. That's the essense of "divide and conquer", you should've been learnt it in middle school. Actually the US wants stability there. This only aids Iran and I would wager they are ultimately behind it. Iran looks to be the regional power once they get the US out. They will then co-opt Iraq, Afghanistan and quite possibly Pakistan if things fall apart there (Iran does not like a nuclear armed country on its doorstep). From there Iran will be in a far better position to influence the rest of the Middle East and may well gain hegemony from Africa to India.
Gallente Citizen2007041418	Posted - 2007.12.27 21:59:00 - [33] Originally by: Imperator Jora'h Actually the US wants stability there. This only aids Iran and I would wager they are ultimately behind it. Iran looks to be the regional power once they get the US out. They will then co-opt Iraq, Afghanistan and quite possibly Pakistan if things fall apart there (Iran does not like a nuclear armed country on its doorstep). From there Iran will be in a far better position to influence the rest of the Middle East and may well gain hegemony from Africa to India. What can I say... You're really shortsighed (don't take this as an offence). Just ask yourself, why they would need stability in a state near 2 huge countries - China and India - with rapidly growing economics? Of course, USA/GB would benefit from stability here, but wouldn't they have much-muuuch more benefits from _instability_? Have a nice night, and dream about nukes...
Zalathar Minmatar Biometaloid INC	Posted - 2007.12.27 22:03:00 - [34] Originally by: Imperator Jora'h Originally by: Gallente Citizen2007041418 Originally by: Zalathar US and UK supported Bhutto, not Musharaf, and Bhutto's death actually helps Musharaf, and might actually bring more stabiliy to Pakistan, not divide it. Well of course they support some politics with they left hand and kill the same politics with their right one. They've been doing it for ages. They don't need stability, the more middle-hot conflicts, the better. That's the essense of "divide and conquer", you should've been learnt it in middle school. Actually the US wants stability there. This only aids Iran and I would wager they are ultimately behind it. Iran looks to be the regional power once they get the US out. They will then co-opt Iraq, Afghanistan and quite possibly Pakistan if things fall apart there (Iran does not like a nuclear armed country on its doorstep). From there Iran will be in a far better position to influence the rest of the Middle East and may well gain hegemony from Africa to India. An undertaking like that for a westen governemnt is far too risky, as they are free countries where information WILL eventually get out. It is a risk no western government would take. and i dont need a lecture on what divide and conquer means, thanks, i know that much. i just dont believe that the wetern powers are interested in either dividing or conquering there (well, they already have, but that was not the intention, even if it was the result) ~~~~~~ mods, if you think i'm ugly please say "eeek!" ~~~~~~ eeeeeekk - Deckard eeeeee...K -Darth Patches gawwwd damn!!1 -zhuge you soo pretty I think you're stunningly handsome and let me just say that you're wearing that dead parrot on your shoulder in a particularly dashing way today. -Hango Your using up all the space hango! - Timmeh
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.12.27 22:06:00 - [35] Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 27/12/2007 22:07:39 Yeah, we want to throw our gratest ally in the middle east in the war on terror into anarchy... that helps us somehow Now offer proof or stfu... and by proof I don't mean your whacky uncorroborated theories Originally by: Tarminic Okay, that's it. You are on the KOS list, and you better pray that I don't have access to a locater agent.
Zalathar Minmatar Biometaloid INC	Posted - 2007.12.27 22:08:00 - [36] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Yeah, we want to throw our gratest ally in the middle east in the war on terror into anarchy... that helps us somehow ally? Pakistan has been funding the Taliban and Al Quaeda for the past few deacdes, they are only an "Ally" for political, not practical issues. If Bhutto had won, then they might really have been an ally... ~~~~~~ mods, if you think i'm ugly please say "eeek!" ~~~~~~ eeeeeekk - Deckard eeeeee...K -Darth Patches gawwwd damn!!1 -zhuge you soo pretty I think you're stunningly handsome and let me just say that you're wearing that dead parrot on your shoulder in a particularly dashing way today. -Hango Your using up all the space hango! - Timmeh
Gallente Citizen2007041418	Posted - 2007.12.27 22:11:00 - [37] Originally by: Zalathar An undertaking like that for a westen governemnt is far too risky, as they are free countries where information WILL eventually get out. It is a risk no western government would take. and i dont need a lecture on what divide and conquer means, thanks, i know that much. i just dont believe that the wetern powers are interested in either dividing or conquering there (well, they already have, but that was not the intention, even if it was the result) Information will get out, as it got out about British Empire deeds, but who the hell will caress about it 50 or 100 years later? People will just admire finesse and cunning of that act, that's all. So. I understand your feelings very well. You defend your nation, that's the duty of every patriot. If I was a citizen of these countries I would probably say the same. Happy me, I don't, so I'm not blinded by patriotic feelings in that case.
Ademaro Imre Caldari Eye of God	Posted - 2007.12.27 22:15:00 - [38] Originally by: Gallente Citizen2007041418 So. I understand your feelings very well. You defend your nation, that's the duty of every patriot. If I was a citizen of these countries I would probably say the same. Happy me, I don't, so I'm not blinded by patriotic feelings in that case. Of course, why be blinded by patriotic feelings when one can be blinded by international conspiracy theories instead.
Zalathar Minmatar Biometaloid INC	Posted - 2007.12.27 22:16:00 - [39] Originally by: Gallente Citizen2007041418 Originally by: Zalathar An undertaking like that for a westen governemnt is far too risky, as they are free countries where information WILL eventually get out. It is a risk no western government would take. and i dont need a lecture on what divide and conquer means, thanks, i know that much. i just dont believe that the wetern powers are interested in either dividing or conquering there (well, they already have, but that was not the intention, even if it was the result) Information will get out, as it got out about British Empire deeds, but who the hell will caress about it 50 or 100 years later? People will just admire finesse and cunning of that act, that's all. So. I understand your feelings very well. You defend your nation, that's the duty of every patriot. If I was a citizen of these countries I would probably say the same. Happy me, I don't, so I'm not blinded by patriotic feelings in that case. I am only american by nationalty (and even then only half) i have never been to Arimica, so no, i am no patriot. ~~~~~~ mods, if you think i'm ugly please say "eeek!" ~~~~~~ eeeeeekk - Deckard eeeeee...K -Darth Patches gawwwd damn!!1 -zhuge you soo pretty I think you're stunningly handsome and let me just say that you're wearing that dead parrot on your shoulder in a particularly dashing way today. -Hango Your using up all the space hango! - Timmeh
Gallente Citizen2007041418	Posted - 2007.12.27 22:16:00 - [40] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 27/12/2007 22:07:39 Yeah, we want to throw our gratest ally in the middle east in the war on terror into anarchy... that helps us somehow Britain doesn't have allies, it has interests (c). Or something like. Quote: Now offer proof or stfu... and by proof I don't mean your whacky uncorroborated theories Well, I might as well ask about proof of that they didn't do it... But it will be pointless, as there won't be any proof of this in foreseeble future. We're not in court anyway for calls for "proof". You might call it "mathematical induction proof" if you want so, if you know what I mean.
Zalathar Minmatar Biometaloid INC	Posted - 2007.12.27 22:16:00 - [41] Originally by: Ademaro Imre Originally by: Gallente Citizen2007041418 So. I understand your feelings very well. You defend your nation, that's the duty of every patriot. If I was a citizen of these countries I would probably say the same. Happy me, I don't, so I'm not blinded by patriotic feelings in that case. Of course, why be blinded by patriotic feelings when one can be blinded by international conspiracy theories instead. thread winner ~~~~~~ mods, if you think i'm ugly please say "eeek!" ~~~~~~ eeeeeekk - Deckard eeeeee...K -Darth Patches gawwwd damn!!1 -zhuge you soo pretty I think you're stunningly handsome and let me just say that you're wearing that dead parrot on your shoulder in a particularly dashing way today. -Hango Your using up all the space hango! - Timmeh
Gallente Citizen2007041418	Posted - 2007.12.27 22:19:00 - [42] Originally by: Zalathar I am only american by nationalty That's more than enough. The Blood is underestimated.
Gallente Citizen2007041418	Posted - 2007.12.27 22:21:00 - [43] Edited by: Gallente Citizen2007041418 on 27/12/2007 22:20:59 Originally by: Ademaro Imre Originally by: Gallente Citizen2007041418 So. I understand your feelings very well. You defend your nation, that's the duty of every patriot. If I was a citizen of these countries I would probably say the same. Happy me, I don't, so I'm not blinded by patriotic feelings in that case. Of course, why be blinded by patriotic feelings when one can be blinded by international conspiracy theories instead. Watergate scandal was called "tinfoil hattery" and "conspiracy" too in the beginning. So don't use such words if you don't know for sure, you'll very well might get ashamed later.
Magnus Nordir Caldari Asimov Industries	Posted - 2007.12.27 22:21:00 - [44] Originally by: Gallente Citizen2007041418 Originally by: Zalathar I am only american by nationalty That's more than enough. The Blood is underestimated. Blood? There's no such thing as a physical/ethnical American nation, the USA and Canada were both created by immigrants. Everything is possible for him who believes. Insprinc haptbandun - Inuar vigandun
Zalathar Minmatar Biometaloid INC	Posted - 2007.12.27 22:25:00 - [45] Originally by: Magnus Nordir Originally by: Gallente Citizen2007041418 Originally by: Zalathar I am only american by nationalty That's more than enough. The Blood is underestimated. Blood? There's no such thing as a physical/ethnical American nation, the USA and Canada were both created by immigrants. There is no such thing as blood, it is imagined by patriots trying to enforce a sense of patriotism in their nationas. ~~~~~~ mods, if you think i'm ugly please say "eeek!" ~~~~~~ eeeeeekk - Deckard eeeeee...K -Darth Patches gawwwd damn!!1 -zhuge you soo pretty I think you're stunningly handsome and let me just say that you're wearing that dead parrot on your shoulder in a particularly dashing way today. -Hango Your using up all the space hango! - Timmeh
Gallente Citizen2007041418	Posted - 2007.12.27 22:25:00 - [46] Originally by: Magnus Nordir Originally by: Gallente Citizen2007041418 Originally by: Zalathar I am only american by nationalty That's more than enough. The Blood is underestimated. Blood? There's no such thing as a physical/ethnical American nation, the USA and Canada were both created by immigrants. There is already. 300 years is 300 years, we're not some thick-headed Nzi, are we? 300 years is enough to breed a new nation with its' own prichology, reactions on common things etc.
Zalathar Minmatar Biometaloid INC	Posted - 2007.12.27 22:28:00 - [47] Edited by: Zalathar on 27/12/2007 22:30:08 Originally by: Gallente Citizen2007041418 Originally by: Magnus Nordir Originally by: Gallente Citizen2007041418 Originally by: Zalathar I am only american by nationalty That's more than enough. The Blood is underestimated. Blood? There's no such thing as a physical/ethnical American nation, the USA and Canada were both created by immigrants. There is already. 300 years is 300 years, we're not some thick-headed Nzi, are we? 300 years is enough to breed a new nation with its' own prichology, reactions on common things etc. ok, out of curiostity, from what great, pure, and uncorrupted nation do YOU come from? Edit: I suppose we know why threads like this usually get locked... ~~~~~~ mods, if you think i'm ugly please say "eeek!" ~~~~~~ eeeeeekk - Deckard eeeeee...K -Darth Patches gawwwd damn!!1 -zhuge you soo pretty I think you're stunningly handsome and let me just say that you're wearing that dead parrot on your shoulder in a particularly dashing way today. -Hango Your using up all the space hango! - Timmeh
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.12.27 22:31:00 - [48] yeah, we threw a nuclear armed islamic nation into turmoil becasue it would... help us? Here's my piece of legitimate claim, where's yours? Originally by: Tarminic Okay, that's it. You are on the KOS list, and you better pray that I don't have access to a locater agent.
Gallente Citizen2007041418	Posted - 2007.12.27 22:34:00 - [49] Originally by: Zalathar ok, out of curiostity, from what great, pure, and uncorrupted nation do YOU come from? Where did I said that it is "pure and uncorrupted"? Or only "pure and uncorrupted" have right to point on dirty and corrupted ones? Well, if you really want it... I'm from Russia. We (well, me) don't like neither "Bhutto" nor "Musharraf" (or whatever their names), nor USA/GB and, to be honest, nor abovementioned Iran too. Not that we really care tbh. So I'm pretty independent in my views from both patriotic feelings or other lofty ideals in this case.
Gallente Citizen2007041418	Posted - 2007.12.27 22:35:00 - [50] Edited by: Gallente Citizen2007041418 on 27/12/2007 22:37:06 Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny yeah, we threw a nuclear armed islamic nation into turmoil becasue it would... help us? [/url] So, if that nuclear armed nation would begin a local thermonuclear war against china or India, it wouldn't help you? Quote: Here's my piece of legitimate claim, where's yours? " By MATTHEW LEE, Associated Press Writer" rofl. Now it is called a legitimate claim. An Associated press. "Divide and conquer", as it was said.
Magnus Nordir Caldari Asimov Industries	Posted - 2007.12.27 22:39:00 - [51] Edited by: Magnus Nordir on 27/12/2007 22:39:39 To re-iterate my original statement: Every political assassination brings the common man one scumbag closer to freedom, especially in islamo-fascist/just fascist ****holes like musharafstan. Everything is possible for him who believes. Insprinc haptbandun - Inuar vigandun
Zalathar Minmatar Biometaloid INC	Posted - 2007.12.27 22:41:00 - [52] Originally by: Gallente Citizen2007041418 Originally by: Zalathar ok, out of curiostity, from what great, pure, and uncorrupted nation do YOU come from? Where did I said that it is "pure and uncorrupted"? Or only "pure and uncorrupted" have right to point on dirty and corrupted ones? Well, if you really want it... I'm from Russia. We (well, me) don't like neither "Bhutto" nor "Musharraf" (or whatever their names), nor USA/GB and, to be honest, nor abovementioned Iran too. Not that we really care tbh. So I'm pretty independent in my views from both patriotic feelings or other lofty ideals in this case. you say you are above patriotism, but don't believe it when other people say the same thing? I dont want to be mean, but you are being hypocritcal here. ~~~~~~ mods, if you think i'm ugly please say "eeek!" ~~~~~~ eeeeeekk - Deckard eeeeee...K -Darth Patches gawwwd damn!!1 -zhuge you soo pretty I think you're stunningly handsome and let me just say that you're wearing that dead parrot on your shoulder in a particularly dashing way today. -Hango Your using up all the space hango! - Timmeh
Gallente Citizen2007041418	Posted - 2007.12.27 22:45:00 - [53] Originally by: Zalathar you say you are above patriotism, but don't believe it when other people say the same thing? I dont want to be mean, but you are being hypocritcal here. Nope, I'm not hypocritical. My country doesn't have much interest in Pakistan, and it doesn't messed into politics of that country like US/GB. So in spite of my patriotism it just not applicable to that case, as there's no thing to apply it to. You know, as we used to say, "both are worse".
Doctor Fruitloop	Posted - 2007.12.27 23:18:00 - [54] Reading over it, it seems to me that the best we (EU/USA/NATO) can do for now is be ready for the worst, keep watching with a sharp eye and try to make it that our fears are simply fears. In a worst case scenario, I suppose India may advance on Kashmir, China starts it's advance soon after and it snowballs into a nuclear WW3 with NATO on the sidelines as these 3 powers struggle. I don't have much knowlege on the subject but as far as I know these 3 want to settle old grudges and secure resources the others have, point in context Pakistan wants water from a river India now soaks up before it get's to Pakistan for industrial reasons. Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny BELIEVE IT!!! If you utter that...phrase...again, I swear to god I'll hunt you down and pod you
ry ry StateCorp Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2007.12.27 23:26:00 - [55] Edited by: ry ry on 27/12/2007 23:26:18 she was a brave woman and a genuine loss to moderate politics in that neck of the woods. then again, she was an outspoken opponent of the sort of people who go round assasinating politicians. this wasn't so much suprising, as depressingly inevitable. *again.
Gyfrex	Posted - 2007.12.27 23:55:00 - [56] Edited by: Gyfrex on 27/12/2007 23:56:50 Originally by: Gallente Citizen2007041418 So, if that nuclear armed nation would begin a local thermonuclear war against china or India, it wouldn't help you? You do realise that setting off a nuke anywhere in the world has environmental effects on the rest of it? a nuclear war would mean that global warming would speed up by an insane degree maybe even just melt the icecaps in itself as well as irradiating most of the world and sending dust clouds all over the planet and blocking out sunlight etc...also China is holding up the US economy atm by buying up its mineral wealth. Stop listening to damn conspiracy theorists because it tickles your fancies and start looking at some facts..."Divide and conquer" by an Assosciated press writer is not evidence to support your claim...its called making a good story. Flame all you want, won't change the facts. On Topic - Was bound to happen in fairness...from the moment she re-entered that country she was walking into her death ---
Petter Sandstad Taggart Transdimensional Kinetic Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.28 00:24:00 - [57] Since this is a hot political issue, I invite anyone wanting to discuss this issue to TTI's forum. There issues concerning opinions of Bhutto, speculations on what the result of the assasination will be, and on who is behind the assasination, can be discussed. I hope the moderators have nothing against this invitation.
Reap Ares	Posted - 2007.12.28 00:47:00 - [58] Who? And who cares?
Magnus Nordir Caldari Asimov Industries	Posted - 2007.12.28 01:11:00 - [59] Edited by: Magnus Nordir on 28/12/2007 01:13:47 Originally by: Reap Ares Who? And who cares? seconded. Mods, ~~sage~~ delete this ****. Everything is possible for him who believes. Insprinc haptbandun - Inuar vigandun
Angela Toren Amarr Toren Shipyards	Posted - 2007.12.28 01:13:00 - [60] 1. The taliban, al qaida, ***** bin laden, several terrorist factions and extremist groups are all hiding in Pakistan. 2. Pakistan is now in political and democratic turmoil. 3. Pakistan has NUKES. 4. The West no longer has anyone in Pakistan that they can trust. 5. See 3. I call it 3 months before the yanks go in.

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