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endeavour x
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.12.28 15:09:00 -
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Quick question, can these little fella's be attacked?
If a POS is in high sec space (0.5), is offline and has a lot of valuable weapons, hardners, labs and corp hanger anchored at it. Can i war dec the corp, shoot the control tower and take the mods to set up my own in the same place?
I'm under the impression that modules can now be scooped by anyone once control tower has gone c/d...
Asuming i have several hours to sit in a Raven to shoot the bloody thing, (or pay Chribba to come pop it in his dred)
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Lady Natacha
Minmatar
Water and Power
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Posted - 2007.12.28 15:26:00 -
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1) Yes you can war dec and shoot the POS
2) Once the tower is destroyed the modules will unanchor and are indeed scoop-able
3) Chribba would lose his high-sec dread if he ever used it to shoot at anything in high sec other than Veldspar.
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endeavour x
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.12.28 15:38:00 -
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Thanks for the reply, guess i'm POS bashing tomorrow night.
One more question, if I war dec this corp, wait 24 hours, can my gang members from other corps and alliances then shoot at the POS too?
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Braaage
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2007.12.28 15:55:00 -
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That's bordering on exploiting, if your "friends" want to attack then they should either join your corp or war dec them themselves.
Short answer is they can only shoot if the POS shoots them and if it set to shpoot war targets only and not on aggression then no they wont be able to help.
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endeavour x
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.12.28 16:01:00 -
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I was under the impression that if you join a gang with someone at war, you join that war and are able to shoot the war tagets the same that they are (and be shot AT too).
The POS is ofline, so not likely to be shooting back....
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Witch Doctor
Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2007.12.28 17:32:00 -
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 Originally by: endeavour x
I was under the impression that if you join a gang with someone at war, you join that war and are able to shoot the war tagets the same that they are (and be shot AT too).
Not exactly. If you join a gang with someone at war, their war targets can shoot you, at which point you can shoot back. CONCORD will intervene if you shoot first. Think of it as granting kill rights to your gang mate's war targets.
I'm sure you can see the obvious problems if your war targets could instantly triple their gang size in an empire engagement ...
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endeavour x
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.12.28 18:12:00 -
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Would be funny as hell
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Helen Hunts
Gallente
Red Dragon Mining inc
Red Dragon Industries
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Posted - 2007.12.29 21:53:00 -
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If the POS is indeed offline, then the guns will not fire.
If the guns do not fire, then any non-corp/alliance gang members would NOT gain the ability to freely shoot the POS.
Now that doesn't mean that your gang-mates couldn't use Cap Transfers on those who ARE able to actively attack the POS....Lasers vs. shields, FTW
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Gilgamoth
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.12.29 23:37:00 -
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Originally by: Helen Hunts
Now that doesn't mean that your gang-mates couldn't use Cap Transfers on those who ARE able to actively attack the POS....Lasers vs. shields, FTW
I was under the impression that cap and shield transfers would flag you as well because people were using that as a way to tank sentry guns in empire..
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endeavour x
Hangover Heros.
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Posted - 2008.01.03 10:14:00 -
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The POS had been ofline for over 6 months. I only just got around to war dec'ing it due to Rl greifing from the GF.
I started the war, waited 24 hours. Stared attacking it. Got it to 40% shields.... 130mil of mods on it, hauler stood by ready to scoop 20+ hours later.
Went to the shop for half an hour, came back. POS is online again. Bastards.
Just hope to get a few haulers now to re coup costs.
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Uncarian
RennTech
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.03 11:23:00 -
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You will still be able to man the guns in high-sec POS right? With the starbase defense operator skill, just like in 0.0 and low-sec?
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Raaki
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.01.03 11:55:00 -
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Have you tried to just contact the owner? and try it the friendly way ?
Maybe offer him a small sum of money, for taking over his tower and mods.
Probably too late for that aproache now :)
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endeavour x
Hangover Heros.
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:41:00 -
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I sent him (them) several mails to let him know his POS was ofline, no reply.
I petitiond it stating that i was claiming it as salvage under anchient marine law, got told laws had changed since we left earth and to war dec!
few months later and after another few mails to the CEO i decided to remove it myself, and figured i might as well make some money as modules are now scoopable.
But no, he on lined the tower agian.
I'm fairly sure i can tank the guns, just gotta sit in a raven for god knows how many hours to put it into reinforced.
Or i may just keep the war dec on so he has to re-fuel... then pop the hauler.
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