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scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
20
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Posted - 2012.02.07 20:30:00 -
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With the new vcode requirements for goons they will also now be able to tell how a user pays for their EVE subscription. In the short future goons will start demanding that everyone starts paying for their account with PLEX in an effort manipulate the price of PLEX in effect driving prices through the roof...effects of increased PLEX prices will be loss of profits for RMTers and botters....Branch is pretty good farming so the isk faucet is going to be cranked wide open, how high will plexes go? 2,3 5, 10 bil?
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Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
400
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Posted - 2012.02.07 20:33:00 -
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they're onto us |

Micheal Dietrich
Standards and Practices
35
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Posted - 2012.02.07 20:33:00 -
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This will be as effective as one of those 'don't use/purchase xx product on this day to protest' spam mails. |

scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
20
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Posted - 2012.02.07 20:37:00 -
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Missing the point, Why use your own isk to make massive profits from PLEX price fluctuations when you can use the zombie masses to do it for you....oh yeah and cripple enemies bots in the process.... |

Liang Nuren
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
759
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Posted - 2012.02.07 20:47:00 -
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Even if you could pull it off, I'd say that you couldn't push it much higher than 550-600M.
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://vimeo.com/user9887127 Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
2386
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Posted - 2012.02.07 20:47:00 -
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We must take a stand now! I demand that we will be able to pay our subscriptions with food coupons!
/c
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
941
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Posted - 2012.02.07 20:48:00 -
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See my sig for details: When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |

Mara Tessidar
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
467
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:01:00 -
[8] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:With the new vcode requirements for goons they will also now be able to tell how a user pays for their EVE subscription. In the short future goons will start demanding that everyone starts paying for their account with PLEX in an effort manipulate the price of PLEX in effect driving prices through the roof...effects of increased PLEX prices will be loss of profits for RMTers and botters....Branch is pretty good farming so the isk faucet is going to be cranked wide open, how high will plexes go? 2,3 5, 10 bil?
take your meds http://goo.gl/uX5vk |

scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
21
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:08:00 -
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Same thing as always..denial it is ok dude, my accounts are plexed up and i have a small stockpile in cases of emergencies just like this..good luck |

Nex apparatu5
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
165
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:15:00 -
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I can't tell if this is a terrible troll or the worst market manipulation attempt since the "PLEX BPOs are being introduced that only use thulium" thread. |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
563
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:17:00 -
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The only problem with that...
People won't pay much more than they already are... leaving only Goons to pay the high prices. Yeah, that would work out so well. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1966
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:19:00 -
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so not only are we asking people for their assetlist APIs to "probe out" accounts to hack, but we're also using APIs to manipulate the plex market to "combat RMT"
not only does the API not allow you to view the payment method on the account, but it doesn't even let you see the login username, let alone anything else like that. it's obvious that you're a flipping moron. kill yourself! andski for csm7~ |

Lithalnas
Privateers Privateer Alliance
102
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:20:00 -
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I know I am only a graduate business student but if they crack down on botting that reduces the influx of isk. That means that there is less isk to go around and that means it drives PLEX prices down as the isk, as a commodity is worth more because of its rarity.
As to goons forcing their members to use plex: I highly doubt that this would happen and I even more doubt that goons would support such an effort as sloth prevents a lot of them for farming isk. (ie the weekend warriors) If you start desubing your members due to lack or personal income your fleet numbers go down. Remember this is goonswarm, their fleet composition starts with "get 500 guys together and..." How to build a PC for EVE thread (by Akita T) http://eve-search.com/thread/1559734-0/page/1
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1966
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:23:00 -
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actually more likely than not most goons would just disregard that nonsense and go back to paying their subs the normal way because there is no way to tell how your members are paying for their subscriptions, even with a full-access API vcode andski for csm7~ |

scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
21
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:24:00 -
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Goons are a bunch of scammers and each and everyone of them is out for themselves, my scenario is not so far off...and question of course...why else would they want that piece of api information?
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arcca jeth
Dark Alliance Dark Empire Alliance
61
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:24:00 -
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please let PLEX sky rocket past 1B, I will happily pay another 100$ to further free myself from the ISK grind while others slave away to give it to me, as I have plenty of RL cash and I am having more fun now with my new found freedom. bring it on! |

scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
21
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:25:00 -
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Andski wrote:actually more likely than not most goons would just disregard that nonsense and go back to paying their subs the normal way because there is no way to tell how your members are paying for their subscriptions, even with a full-access API vcode
Description The Account Status API returns basic account information including when the subscription lapses, total times logged on and date of account creation. In the case of accounts created with Game Time Codes (GTC), it will also looks for available offers of time codes.
yes there is |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
256
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:25:00 -
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CCP said in the minutes the PLEX market was indeed open to scams and meta gaming such like this. But also said they would develop tools to combat it if it did happen or prices got to high.
Even then I am with chibbra and starting to horde all the food stamps and old buffalo nickel coins I can. Signature removed, CCP Phantom |

arcca jeth
Dark Alliance Dark Empire Alliance
61
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:25:00 -
[19] - Quote
Andski wrote:actually more likely than not most goons would just disregard that nonsense and go back to paying their subs the normal way because there is no way to tell how your members are paying for their subscriptions, even with a full-access API vcode
shhh lol dont spoil it!
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Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
563
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:26:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:Goons are a bunch of scammers and each and everyone of them is out for themselves, my scenario is not so far off...and question of course...why else would they want that piece of api information?
What piece of API info?
Nothing that the API gives says how you pay for sub.
Lots of account related stuff, but no info if payed with by plex or CC. |

Endeavour Starfleet
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
630
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:27:00 -
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Before people freak out. The API will NEVER reveal anything related to account financial. The ONLY thing you can gain related is the amount of time before the sub expires. Which is useless anyway. |

arcca jeth
Dark Alliance Dark Empire Alliance
61
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:27:00 -
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rodyas wrote:CCP said in the minutes the PLEX market was indeed open to scams and meta gaming such like this. But also said they would develop tools to combat it if it did happen or prices got to high.
Even then I am with chibbra and starting to horde all the food stamps and old buffalo nickel coins I can.
their tools would be better package deals for PLEX, simple economics. more PLEX offered per purchase keeps the volume of PLEX high so that these inflated PLEX prices would never actually be realized.
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scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
21
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:29:00 -
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arcca jeth wrote:rodyas wrote:CCP said in the minutes the PLEX market was indeed open to scams and meta gaming such like this. But also said they would develop tools to combat it if it did happen or prices got to high.
Even then I am with chibbra and starting to horde all the food stamps and old buffalo nickel coins I can. their tools would be better package deals for PLEX, simple economics. more PLEX offered per purchase keeps the volume of PLEX high so that these inflated PLEX prices would never actually be realized.
CCP artificially lowering plex prices is not a good thing
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1967
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:30:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:Andski wrote:actually more likely than not most goons would just disregard that nonsense and go back to paying their subs the normal way because there is no way to tell how your members are paying for their subscriptions, even with a full-access API vcode Description The Account Status API returns basic account information including when the subscription lapses, total times logged on and date of account creation. In the case of accounts created with Game Time Codes (GTC), it will also looks for available offers of time codes. yes there is
you are a gigantic moron
http://wiki.eve-id.net/APIv2_Account_AccountStatus_XML
it does not return any information regarding payment methods
stop posting andski for csm7~ |

scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
21
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:33:00 -
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Andski wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:Andski wrote:actually more likely than not most goons would just disregard that nonsense and go back to paying their subs the normal way because there is no way to tell how your members are paying for their subscriptions, even with a full-access API vcode Description The Account Status API returns basic account information including when the subscription lapses, total times logged on and date of account creation. In the case of accounts created with Game Time Codes (GTC), it will also looks for available offers of time codes. yes there is you are a gigantic moronhttp://wiki.eve-id.net/APIv2_Account_AccountStatus_XMLit does not return any information regarding payment methods stop posting
it will search for info about gtc and return offers about such...so yes they will know if you did....
And getting mad doesnt change the fact that your scheme was outed.... |

arcca jeth
Dark Alliance Dark Empire Alliance
61
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:34:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:arcca jeth wrote:rodyas wrote:CCP said in the minutes the PLEX market was indeed open to scams and meta gaming such like this. But also said they would develop tools to combat it if it did happen or prices got to high.
Even then I am with chibbra and starting to horde all the food stamps and old buffalo nickel coins I can. their tools would be better package deals for PLEX, simple economics. more PLEX offered per purchase keeps the volume of PLEX high so that these inflated PLEX prices would never actually be realized. CCP artificially lowering plex prices is not a good thing
i agree but if prices reached 1b per plex, you would see like you do now $100 for 6 but they would likely offer $100 for 8. I'm all for PLEX reaching 1B, because i would buy more PLEX with RL cash  |

arcca jeth
Dark Alliance Dark Empire Alliance
61
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:35:00 -
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scooter you should cite your resources if you wish to be taken seriously |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1967
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:36:00 -
[28] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:it wills search for info about gtc and return offers about such...so yes they will know if you did....
And getting mad doesnt change the fact that your scheme was outed....
you lack the capacity to "out" any schemes, moron
it only shows pending ETC trades. andski for csm7~ |

scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
21
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:38:00 -
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arcca jeth wrote:scooter you should cite your resources if you wish to be taken seriously
anyone can search for description of api info when creating api....
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Jaehawn
AirHogs Zulu People
1
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:38:00 -
[30] - Quote
Ill be paying for my account with the profits from investing in tin foil companies, since this is where this conversation is going. |

scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
21
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:39:00 -
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Andski wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:it wills search for info about gtc and return offers about such...so yes they will know if you did....
And getting mad doesnt change the fact that your scheme was outed.... you lack the capacity to "out" any schemes, moron it only shows pending ETC trades.
Pretty unprofessional language from a potential CSM....pro job dude...CSM full of 42 y/o name callers is just what EVE needs |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1967
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:41:00 -
[32] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Andski wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:it wills search for info about gtc and return offers about such...so yes they will know if you did....
And getting mad doesnt change the fact that your scheme was outed.... you lack the capacity to "out" any schemes, moron it only shows pending ETC trades. Pretty unprofessional language from a potential CSM....pro job dude...CSM full of 42 y/o name callers is just what EVE needs
I call it as I see it. You've shown a massive lack of reasoning and you've concocted two wild conspiracy theories based on a set of vcode requirements. andski for csm7~ |

Krios Ahzek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
471
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:41:00 -
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What's the point of jacking the PLEX prices up if we're forced to pay with PLEX? Goonswarm wishes to force its members to give more ISK per PLEX to huge nerds with credit cards? |

scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
21
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:43:00 -
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Krios Ahzek wrote:What's the point of jacking the PLEX prices up if we're forced to pay with PLEX? Goonswarm wishes to force its members to give more ISK per PLEX to huge nerds with credit cards?
Higher plex prices cut into the profits of RMT'ers also forces scrub noobs running incursions to work harder
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1967
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:44:00 -
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GUYS GUYS THE GOONS REQUIRE ACCESS TO VIEW YOUR SKILLS IN TRAINING
THEY ARE CLEARLY TRYING TO DRIVE UP PRICES ON (INSERT DROP-ONLY SKILLBOOK) BECAUSE THE MITTANI CLEARLY HOLDS A STOCKPILE andski for csm7~ |

Krios Ahzek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
471
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:45:00 -
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You can't supply crunch PLEX therefore any possible Goonrush is useless. If it gets high enough, people will just buy more PLEX. |

scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
21
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:47:00 -
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Krios Ahzek wrote:You can't supply crunch PLEX therefore any possible Goonrush is useless. If it gets high enough, people will just buy more PLEX.
Since they can also see what assets members have they would also be able to tell who is stock piling......
and when they have made enough isk jacking prices up they will crash market and start the whole cycle over again... |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1967
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:48:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:Krios Ahzek wrote:You can't supply crunch PLEX therefore any possible Goonrush is useless. If it gets high enough, people will just buy more PLEX. Since they can also see what assets members have they would also be able to tell who is stock piling...... and when they have made enough isk jacking prices up they will crash market and start the whole cycle over again...
i can use ellipses too.................................................................... andski for csm7~ |

scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
21
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:50:00 -
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Andski wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:Krios Ahzek wrote:You can't supply crunch PLEX therefore any possible Goonrush is useless. If it gets high enough, people will just buy more PLEX. Since they can also see what assets members have they would also be able to tell who is stock piling...... and when they have made enough isk jacking prices up they will crash market and start the whole cycle over again... i can use ellipses too....................................................................
I am certain that will be very handy when goons blob the CSM vote and you get elected.....
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Krios Ahzek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
471
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:50:00 -
[40] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Krios Ahzek wrote:You can't supply crunch PLEX therefore any possible Goonrush is useless. If it gets high enough, people will just buy more PLEX. Since they can also see what assets members have they would also be able to tell who is stock piling...... and when they have made enough isk jacking prices up they will crash market and start the whole cycle over again...
Nobody makes ISK if we're forced to spend 800m ISK on PLEXes every month.
Anyhow, tinfoil.
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Ioci
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
74
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:51:00 -
[41] - Quote
If Goons can combat RMT I support them 100%
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DIsposible Hero
State War Academy Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:52:00 -
[42] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Same thing as always..denial it is ok dude, my accounts are plexed up and i have a small stockpile in cases of emergencies just like this..good luck
Yes. We tend to deny things that are false, its one of those quirky things we do. Although "same thing as always" suggests that you make posts like this frequently. You further imply that you are right in these postings. Citation needed? |

scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
21
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:54:00 -
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Krios Ahzek wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:Krios Ahzek wrote:You can't supply crunch PLEX therefore any possible Goonrush is useless. If it gets high enough, people will just buy more PLEX. Since they can also see what assets members have they would also be able to tell who is stock piling...... and when they have made enough isk jacking prices up they will crash market and start the whole cycle over again... Nobody makes ISK if we're forced to spend 800m ISK on PLEXes every month. Anyhow, tinfoil.
Clueless, there is isk to be made and lulz to be had, don't be so simple |

scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
21
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:55:00 -
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DIsposible Hero wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:Same thing as always..denial it is ok dude, my accounts are plexed up and i have a small stockpile in cases of emergencies just like this..good luck Yes. We tend to deny things that are false, its one of those quirky things we do. Although "same thing as always" suggests that you make posts like this frequently. You further imply that you are right in these postings. Citation needed?
Post with your main
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scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
21
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:56:00 -
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Ioci wrote:If Goons can combat RMT I support them 100%
I do as well..but that isn't their only motive obv...since most of DRF are botters their hopes are to cripple their botters and crush them all |

Nephilius
Grey Legionaires
309
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Posted - 2012.02.07 22:05:00 -
[46] - Quote
Liang Nuren wrote:Even if you could pull it off, I'd say that you couldn't push it much higher than 550-600M.
-Liang
This. The CSM minutes addressed the issue of PLEX prices in-game, and hinted at stepping in if the price goes too high. I'm not too worried about it. To stand before a man at an inquisition, knowing that he will rejoice when we die, knowing that he will commit us to the stake and its horrors without a moment's hesitation or remorse if we do not satisfy him, is not an experience much less cruel because our inquisitor does not whip us or rack us or shout at us. |

scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
21
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Posted - 2012.02.07 22:09:00 -
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Nephilius wrote:Liang Nuren wrote:Even if you could pull it off, I'd say that you couldn't push it much higher than 550-600M.
-Liang This. The CSM minutes addressed the issue of PLEX prices in-game, and hinted at stepping in if the price goes too high. I'm not too worried about it.
As I stated earlier as well I am not worried either Ihave all the plex i need for a while...this is a heads up to people who may not...and plex at 1 bill or 2 isnt really all that unreasonable when you can make that in a day farming anoms....
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Jaren Neraj
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.02.07 22:13:00 -
[48] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:With the new vcode requirements for goons
Are you still on this? Didn't you already have two threads about this locked? |

Caldari Acolyte
Perkone Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2012.02.07 22:14:00 -
[49] - Quote
Billion isk plex? Even if and thats a BIG if could go that high, nobody (unless your a complete moron ) is going to buy them. You'll just have massive unsubs in the Tens of thousands leaving the game.  |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1969
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Posted - 2012.02.07 22:17:00 -
[50] - Quote
make up your mind
we're either probing out accounts to hack and RMT (laff) or we're fighting RMT by forcing everyone to use plex
i find it hilarious that the bulk of the playerbase of eve online, a game centered around a steep learning curve and a complex market economy, can be this dumb andski for csm7~ |

arcca jeth
Dark Alliance Dark Empire Alliance
62
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Posted - 2012.02.07 22:17:00 -
[51] - Quote
Caldari Acolyte wrote:Billion isk plex? Even if and thats a BIG if could go that high, nobody (unless your a complete moron  ) is going to buy them. You'll just have massive unsubs in the Tens of thousands leaving the game. 
never underestimate the number of morons in this game
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scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
21
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Posted - 2012.02.07 22:18:00 -
[52] - Quote
Caldari Acolyte wrote:Billion isk plex? Even if and thats a BIG if could go that high, nobody (unless your a complete moron  ) is going to buy them. You'll just have massive unsubs in the Tens of thousands leaving the game. 
Yes there is MD forum about that...10k people who use plex and not making ccp any money will quit...hohum
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scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
21
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Posted - 2012.02.07 22:19:00 -
[53] - Quote
Andski wrote:make up your mind
we're either probing out accounts to hack and RMT (laff) or we're fighting RMT by forcing everyone to use plex
i find it hilarious that the bulk of the playerbase of eve online, a game centered around a steep learning curve and a complex market economy, can be this dumb
So CSM god we are all dumb peons to be used by goons....very pro...further points out goon arrogance like it is even needed...and doesnt have to be either or, i stand by my earlier statements but that is another thread |

Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10
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Posted - 2012.02.07 22:22:00 -
[54] - Quote
You have the most amusing psychosis. Obsession and paranoid schizophrenia must make your life miserable. |

Ioci
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
74
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Posted - 2012.02.07 22:23:00 -
[55] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Ioci wrote:If Goons can combat RMT I support them 100%
I do as well..but that isn't their only motive obv...since most of DRF are botters their hopes are to cripple their botters and crush them all
Goons aren't that stupid. Most of DRF alts might in fact be botters and if they are RMT botters, good-bye and good riddance. Assuming they aren't RMT botters, Goons have more space than they can manage now. They want enemies, not more blues. I don't agree, this is a plet to take down an enemy that is no threat to Deklein. I don't even think goons care if people bot for in game ISK. If someone has billions to throw at ships, what makes them a threat to Goons? More pew pew, I don't think Goons will object to that. |

Krios Ahzek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
472
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Posted - 2012.02.07 22:23:00 -
[56] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Andski wrote:make up your mind
we're either probing out accounts to hack and RMT (laff) or we're fighting RMT by forcing everyone to use plex
i find it hilarious that the bulk of the playerbase of eve online, a game centered around a steep learning curve and a complex market economy, can be this dumb So CSM god we are all dumb peons to be used by goons....
Oh would you look at this pubbie. For a while you almost had me believing that you were sentient. |

scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
21
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Posted - 2012.02.07 22:25:00 -
[57] - Quote
Tarsus Zateki wrote:You have the most amusing psychosis. Obsession and paranoid schizophrenia must make your life miserable.
Im not the one mad about being outed or the one calling names or trying to hijack other ppls threads |

DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
41
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Posted - 2012.02.07 22:26:00 -
[58] - Quote
Chribba wrote:We must take a stand now! I demand that we will be able to pay our subscriptions with food coupons!
/c
It is already possible to pay for Eve with unemployment benefits debit cards... using food stamps would be about as dificult as buying liqour ( which happens everyday so I bet there is a way to do that & poor white trash goons in Alabama probably have RMT like plex for foodstamps websites already up on craigslist :) |

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
329
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Posted - 2012.02.07 22:28:00 -
[59] - Quote
all part of the goal to conquer sweet, sweet drone space |

Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10
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Posted - 2012.02.07 22:32:00 -
[60] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Tarsus Zateki wrote:You have the most amusing psychosis. Obsession and paranoid schizophrenia must make your life miserable. Im not the one mad about being outed or the one calling names or trying to hijack other ppls threads
I trust you have a manifesto with your proof held by a trustworthy third party in the event that they get you?
Not saying that anyone is out to get you, it not like we know where you live and work now do we? |

Paragon Renegade
Offensive Logistics Inc
217
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Posted - 2012.02.07 22:33:00 -
[61] - Quote
Something Awful isn't universally awful it seems The pie is a tautology |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1969
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Posted - 2012.02.07 22:40:00 -
[62] - Quote
no one blames you scooter, you were born that way andski for csm7~ |

scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
21
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Posted - 2012.02.07 22:40:00 -
[63] - Quote
Tarsus Zateki wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:Tarsus Zateki wrote:You have the most amusing psychosis. Obsession and paranoid schizophrenia must make your life miserable. Im not the one mad about being outed or the one calling names or trying to hijack other ppls threads I trust you have a manifesto with your proof held by a trustworthy third party in the event that they get you? Not saying that anyone is out to get you, it not like we know where you live and work now do we?
I have had more then my share of goon threats, i will throw this one on the pile
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Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10
|
Posted - 2012.02.07 22:52:00 -
[64] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Tarsus Zateki wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:Tarsus Zateki wrote:You have the most amusing psychosis. Obsession and paranoid schizophrenia must make your life miserable. Im not the one mad about being outed or the one calling names or trying to hijack other ppls threads I trust you have a manifesto with your proof held by a trustworthy third party in the event that they get you? Not saying that anyone is out to get you, it not like we know where you live and work now do we? I have had more then my share of goon threats, i will throw this one on the pile
Oh I'm not threatening. There is no Goon standing across the street from your place taking pictures of your comings and goings. |

scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
21
|
Posted - 2012.02.07 23:07:00 -
[65] - Quote
Tarsus Zateki wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:Tarsus Zateki wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:Tarsus Zateki wrote:You have the most amusing psychosis. Obsession and paranoid schizophrenia must make your life miserable. Im not the one mad about being outed or the one calling names or trying to hijack other ppls threads I trust you have a manifesto with your proof held by a trustworthy third party in the event that they get you? Not saying that anyone is out to get you, it not like we know where you live and work now do we? I have had more then my share of goon threats, i will throw this one on the pile Oh I'm not threatening. There is no Goon standing across the street from your place taking pictures of your comings and goings.
I always get a kick out of how hard the goon forces come out when i post to try and derail my threads...wait and see folks, plex prices will rise |

Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10
|
Posted - 2012.02.07 23:12:00 -
[66] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:
I always get a kick out of how hard the goon forces come out when i post to try and derail my threads...wait and see folks, plex prices will rise
We. Are. On. To. You. |

Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10
|
Posted - 2012.02.07 23:12:00 -
[67] - Quote
What was that noise!? |

Skydell
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
141
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Posted - 2012.02.07 23:53:00 -
[68] - Quote
Paragon Renegade wrote:Something Awful isn't universally awful it seems
Yes we are
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Nephilius
Grey Legionaires
309
|
Posted - 2012.02.07 23:59:00 -
[69] - Quote
I have no clue why I come to these forums anymore. It's like one big roleplay, recreating crappy dramatic movies from the 40s. To stand before a man at an inquisition, knowing that he will rejoice when we die, knowing that he will commit us to the stake and its horrors without a moment's hesitation or remorse if we do not satisfy him, is not an experience much less cruel because our inquisitor does not whip us or rack us or shout at us. |

Ai Shun
249
|
Posted - 2012.02.08 00:18:00 -
[70] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:With the new vcode requirements for goons they will also now be able to tell how a user pays for their EVE subscription.
How?
The API for account information returns:
- userID - userID of the account.
- paidUntil - Expiry date of the subscription.
- createDate - The date on which the character was created.
- logonCount - Total number of times character has logged into CCP services (both EVE and Forum logons).
- logonMinutes - Total amount of time this account has been logged on to EVE.
If the account was created with a GTC (Created, not paid for) it will return any GTC offers as well. So, from the list of API functions this is the only one that provides any account details. How will the Goons determine how you pay for your account? |

scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
21
|
Posted - 2012.02.08 00:21:00 -
[71] - Quote
Nephilius wrote:I have no clue why I come to these forums anymore. It's like one big roleplay, recreating crappy dramatic movies from the 40s.
Dear goon alt please stop trying to hijack my thread |

Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10
|
Posted - 2012.02.08 00:22:00 -
[72] - Quote
Ai Shun wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:With the new vcode requirements for goons they will also now be able to tell how a user pays for their EVE subscription. How? The API for account information returns:
- userID - userID of the account.
- paidUntil - Expiry date of the subscription.
- createDate - The date on which the character was created.
- logonCount - Total number of times character has logged into CCP services (both EVE and Forum logons).
- logonMinutes - Total amount of time this account has been logged on to EVE.
If the account was created with a GTC (Created, not paid for) it will return any GTC offers as well. So, from the list of API functions this is the only one that provides any account details. How will the Goons determine how you pay for your account?
Don't try to reason with a lunatic, you're merely feeding his psychosis. Its cruel. |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
564
|
Posted - 2012.02.08 00:26:00 -
[73] - Quote
I wonder if CCP will lock this one... cause its rather entertaining, and they lock all the entertaining ones. |

Ai Shun
249
|
Posted - 2012.02.08 00:39:00 -
[74] - Quote
Tarsus Zateki wrote:Ai Shun wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:With the new vcode requirements for goons they will also now be able to tell how a user pays for their EVE subscription. How? The API for account information returns:
- userID - userID of the account.
- paidUntil - Expiry date of the subscription.
- createDate - The date on which the character was created.
- logonCount - Total number of times character has logged into CCP services (both EVE and Forum logons).
- logonMinutes - Total amount of time this account has been logged on to EVE.
If the account was created with a GTC (Created, not paid for) it will return any GTC offers as well. So, from the list of API functions this is the only one that provides any account details. How will the Goons determine how you pay for your account? Don't try to reason with a lunatic, you're merely feeding his psychosis. Its cruel.
This is EVE GD. HTFU  |

Jenn Makanen
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
164
|
Posted - 2012.02.08 01:01:00 -
[75] - Quote
Oh neat. five billion will look nice in my wallet. and all for the price of a pizza (Well, pizza and a couple of sides)
Just hope I can cash in, before everyone else does. |

Mattikus Hemah
Biotronic Solutions and Engineering
9
|
Posted - 2012.02.08 02:12:00 -
[76] - Quote
noooooo, let me buy a plex first, before you start killing off all the plexers :/ |

Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
390
|
Posted - 2012.02.08 02:17:00 -
[77] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:...goons will start demanding that everyone starts paying for their account with PLEX in an effort manipulate the price of PLEX in effect driving prices through the roof.
Please God, let this be true! We'll finally see the end of Goons as their leadership sucks the marrow from their member's bones in an effort to enrich themselves.
We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX! |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1973
|
Posted - 2012.02.08 02:25:00 -
[78] - Quote
Mr Kidd wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:...goons will start demanding that everyone starts paying for their account with PLEX in an effort manipulate the price of PLEX in effect driving prices through the roof.
Please God, let this be true! We'll finally see the end of Goons as their leadership sucks the marrow from their member's bones in an effort to enrich themselves.
if you're retarded enough to believe anything a guy named "scooter Kondur" posts on GD, alright
rather, YES STOCK UP ON PLEX GO GO GO he has intuitively proven our HORRIBLE SCHEME all because of a vcode requirement!!!!! yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
got you lol!!!!!!!!!!!!! |

NaturalBeast
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
21
|
Posted - 2012.02.08 02:48:00 -
[79] - Quote
Andski wrote:Mr Kidd wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:...goons will start demanding that everyone starts paying for their account with PLEX in an effort manipulate the price of PLEX in effect driving prices through the roof.
Please God, let this be true! We'll finally see the end of Goons as their leadership sucks the marrow from their member's bones in an effort to enrich themselves. if you're re tarded enough to believe anything a guy named "scooter Kondur" posts on GD, alright rather, YES STOCK UP ON PLEX GO GO GO he has intuitively proven our HORRIBLE SCHEME all because of a vcode requirement!!!!!
Save your breath. Your being trolled. Either that your trolling the troll. 
CCP should rename General Discussion "General Drivel" or "When nerds who can't play, post"
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Bayushi Tamago
Tribuo Quod Victum The AirShip Pirates
29
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Posted - 2012.02.08 03:43:00 -
[80] - Quote
IBTL. Also, :tinfoil:... damn I need me some aluminium company stock |

Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
379
|
Posted - 2012.02.08 03:50:00 -
[81] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Andski wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:Andski wrote:actually more likely than not most goons would just disregard that nonsense and go back to paying their subs the normal way because there is no way to tell how your members are paying for their subscriptions, even with a full-access API vcode Description The Account Status API returns basic account information including when the subscription lapses, total times logged on and date of account creation. In the case of accounts created with Game Time Codes (GTC), it will also looks for available offers of time codes. yes there is you are a gigantic moronhttp://wiki.eve-id.net/APIv2_Account_AccountStatus_XMLit does not return any information regarding payment methods stop posting it will search for info about gtc and return offers about such...so yes they will know if you did.... And getting mad doesnt change the fact that your scheme was outed....
how? explain with visual proof in form of a link to the api itself.
[img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |

Menrith Hadel
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
49
|
Posted - 2012.02.08 05:19:00 -
[82] - Quote
NaturalBeast wrote:Andski wrote:Mr Kidd wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:...goons will start demanding that everyone starts paying for their account with PLEX in an effort manipulate the price of PLEX in effect driving prices through the roof.
Please God, let this be true! We'll finally see the end of Goons as their leadership sucks the marrow from their member's bones in an effort to enrich themselves. if you're re tarded enough to believe anything a guy named "scooter Kondur" posts on GD, alright rather, YES STOCK UP ON PLEX GO GO GO he has intuitively proven our HORRIBLE SCHEME all because of a vcode requirement!!!!! Save your breath. Your being trolled. Either that your trolling the troll.  CCP should rename General Discussion "General Drivel" or "When nerds who can't play, post" Once our plan is complete, GD will be the Goon Dominion. |

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
330
|
Posted - 2012.02.08 05:27:00 -
[83] - Quote
Mr Kidd wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:...goons will start demanding that everyone starts paying for their account with PLEX in an effort manipulate the price of PLEX in effect driving prices through the roof.
Please God, let this be true! We'll finally see the end of Goons as their leadership sucks the marrow from their member's bones in an effort to enrich themselves. mittani will be able to fit the officer mod golem of his darkest dreams |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1985
|
Posted - 2012.02.08 05:51:00 -
[84] - Quote
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Mr Kidd wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:...goons will start demanding that everyone starts paying for their account with PLEX in an effort manipulate the price of PLEX in effect driving prices through the roof.
Please God, let this be true! We'll finally see the end of Goons as their leadership sucks the marrow from their member's bones in an effort to enrich themselves. mittani will be able to fit the officer mod sabre of his darkest dreams
fixed yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
got you lol!!!!!!!!!!!!! |

Skydell
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
144
|
Posted - 2012.02.08 05:55:00 -
[85] - Quote
So goons are going to bring down DRF with a mastermind plan to cut off markets?
The same Goons that sent Gallente Ice to 1200 per because they thought they could blockade Nyx fuel. Of couse they forgot that Drone regions have Gallente Ice belts so in the end they made thier enemy wealthy.
Lets play Market wars some more Goons. It can only end well for you  |

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
330
|
Posted - 2012.02.08 06:09:00 -
[86] - Quote
it's true: goons covet oldma's throne, would do everything it takes to take down the drone regions - their biggest threat |

Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
17
|
Posted - 2012.02.08 06:18:00 -
[87] - Quote
You folks are continuing to pander to a crazy person. You're standing around debating the merits of something said by the Eve Online equivalent of a lunatic with a sandwich board shouting about government conspiracies on a street corner. Please stop, you're only helping to perpetuate his fantasies and leading him him deeper into a pit of insanity. Next he will be analyzing Atlas Shrugged, The Bible, the American Constitution and other works of fiction to prove that the Goonswarm Federation was responsible for the Harvester Drone genocide. |

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
330
|
Posted - 2012.02.08 06:23:00 -
[88] - Quote
how much did it cost to flip mactep, goonie? |

Red Templar
Raging Ducks Goonswarm Federation
123
|
Posted - 2012.02.08 07:27:00 -
[89] - Quote
mactep is a stubborn sunofabich and if you think you can flip him, you are as mad as the guy who think that purpose of interdiction was the blockage of nyx fuel 
For Love. For Peace. For Honor.
For None of the Above.
For Pony! |

Akrasjel Lanate
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
562
|
Posted - 2012.02.08 09:11:00 -
[90] - Quote
**** goons... you give them more attencion that they diserve.  |

Karadion
388
|
Posted - 2012.02.08 10:55:00 -
[91] - Quote
Come on guys. They're onto us. They've foiled our plot to take over Eve Online and control the PLEX market! Of course we're so coordinated, smart, and not stupid at all! |

Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
800
|
Posted - 2012.02.08 11:16:00 -
[92] - Quote
Op is just another moron, if someone wants to fight bots just go in null because they're everywhere with all those nerds all day long making billions p/month with PI and their regular belt/anom/mining bot. They're easy to spot and if you think there are more in GS than in another alliance then you obviously never been in guristas space or took a ride in to NC/xdeath space. |
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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
960

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Posted - 2012.02.08 11:46:00 -
[93] - Quote
I would like to quote CCP Stillman on this matter, to clarify several misunderstandings:
CCP Stillman wrote: Here is what we put in the API in regards to your account: - When your account is paid until - What date and time the account was created - How many times you've logged in - How many minutes you've been logged in
What it does NOT show is: - How it is paid - The real name of the owner - Your personal information - Anything that might compromise your identity
Besides this, with the customizable API key system, you can create a key that contains exactly the information you want to give away. If you do not want somebody to know how long your account is paid for, you can choose not to give them access to that information.
CCP Phantom - German Community Coordinator |
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