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Jason Marshall Hammer Of Light	Posted - 2007.12.29 10:10:00 - [1] SOOO, im sitting here with a choice..i get to order one type of beer for my 19th birthday/new years and im wondering what you all recomend, im a complete novice when it comes to theese things. And its not the cheap stuff! My only experience thus far would be a few bottles of Stella vs. Bud Light...but im looking to get something with real flavor (i hope) SOO PLEASE ASSIST! Tacky Lensflares in sigs ftw
Gladiator Jonny Omniscient Order	Posted - 2007.12.29 10:19:00 - [2] Rum, and lots of it! Im guessing your american because those names mean nothing to me, but my advice: Start with some expensive, nice tasting stuff. (your favourite basically). after a few bottles of some good stuff, you can drink all the bad beer you want... you wont care
Jason Marshall Hammer Of Light	Posted - 2007.12.29 10:33:00 - [3] Originally by: Gladiator Jonny Rum, and lots of it! Im guessing your american because those names mean nothing to me, but my advice: Start with some expensive, nice tasting stuff. (your favourite basically). after a few bottles of some good stuff, you can drink all the bad beer you want... you wont care Stella Artois is imported from somewhere in europe i think. Tacky Lensflares in sigs ftw
Kata Dakini An Eye For An Eye Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.12.29 10:48:00 - [4] Pretty much anything from Colorado not associated with Coors or Flat Tire. Otherwise, Colorado beer ftw. For more enjoyment and greater efficiency, consumption is being standardized.
Locus Bey Gallente Qalandar	Posted - 2007.12.29 11:37:00 - [5] Hoegaarden ~ a white beer. Chimay ~ dark trappist beer. Schoefferhofer Hefeweizen ~ wheat beer. Lowenbrau ~ traditional Munich-style beer. Paulaner Salvator ~ "Liquid Bread."
SoftRevolution	Posted - 2007.12.29 12:38:00 - [6] Stella Tortoise is Belgian lager. There's plenty of lagers along similar lines if you like that. Stella (or "wifebeater" as it's known to it's friends) is pretty respectable to be honest. Personally I like Budvar, San Miguel and Grolsch as far as lager goes. Hoegaarden and the like are tasty but more of an esoteric thing. Is this "one type" of beer a fixed thing? You can't get a small selection? EVE RELATED CONTENT
Sister Impotentata Elite Angels Of Death	Posted - 2007.12.29 14:43:00 - [7] Arty Stella actually ain't too bad. Chimay ftw. If you're really looking to sneak one over, this is the beer to do it with. Very highly regarded. Very Potent. Very Dark. Very Expensive. (well, not Sam Adams Utopias expensive, but pricey) Ommegang is similar to Chimay, but Domestic. St Peter's Cream Stout is my current favorite... when I can get it. It sounds snobby, but I honestly sit and smell this beer, like it's a cognac or summat. It's that good. Lighter beers: Hennepin is from the same brewery that makes Ommegang. Bright and very sparkly. Looks like Bud. Drinks like a deleted boot.ini. Hopsy. BurgerBrau A Czech beer. The original Bud, only good. Reasonably hopsy. Żywiec Polish, pronounced something like "Shiv-yetz". I pronounce it "Zwickies!" to the chagrin of my Polish Package Store Connection. This is my current favorite. Soft and Yellow, very easy to drink, almost no hops. Flavorful and almost sweet, but without the busy-ness of the dark beers above. You'll probably find these beers, if at all, in the singles section of a specialty store. If the powers that be were going to swing for a six- or twelve- rack of canoe beer, and you're interested in these, try to get three or four of them. They go a long way. Just for kicks, have a look at This. Sam Adams Utopias. My package store has a bottle of this year's brew for a buck and a half. I've seen older "vintages" online for as much as six bills. ----- TANSTAAFL Originally by: Patricia Arquette There were lots of stars at night. purple and red and yellow and on fire You don't see that. You might still see it in the desert.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.29 15:49:00 - [8] India Pale Ale is quite a lager-y ale if you're in to that kind of thing (Stellas and Buds and such). Something like Greene King's IPA is great if you can get it. Otherwise I'd recommend a solid drinkable bitter like Boddingtons, Worthingtons or Tetley's (if you can get anything like that where you live). None of them are that expensive, all have a more complicated (and thus expensive tasting) flavour than lager, and are all very drinkable. ------ Originally by: CCP Prism X There's no such thing as playing too much EvE! You all obviously need more accounts!
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates Enuma Elish.	Posted - 2007.12.29 22:51:00 - [9] Havercake Ale. Nuff said. --------------------------------------------------------------------
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2007.12.29 22:56:00 - [10] If I had a choice between Stella Artois and Bud, It'd have to be the Stella, American beers really pale in comparison.
Sister Impotentata Elite Angels Of Death	Posted - 2007.12.29 23:10:00 - [11] Originally by: Patch86 I'd recommend a solid drinkable bitter like Boddingtons, Granted I've only had Manchester ** from a can, but I will say it was the most disappointing beer experience I've ever had. Flat beer does not appeal to the American palate, no matter how tasty it is. And this wasn't too tasty. Like drinking an open can of Bud that had been sitting in your bedroom for a summer's fortnight. ----- TANSTAAFL Originally by:** Patricia Arquette There were lots of stars at night. purple and red and yellow and on fire You don't see that. You might still see it in the desert.
Dec V Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2007.12.30 01:02:00 - [12] Don't get Stella Artois. It's horrible and after about 10 pints most people are looking for the nearest fight they can find, and after 15 they are beating up they're other half
Sister Impotentata Elite Angels Of Death	Posted - 2007.12.30 01:11:00 - [13] Originally by: Dec V Don't get Stella Artois. It's horrible and after about 10 pints most people are looking for the nearest fight they can find, and after 15 they are beating up they're other half Case in point. We're trying to find this lad a beer he can enjoy. Not something he's going to suck a couple liters of in search of a buzz. Something that will allow him to appreciate his adultness. ----- TANSTAAFL Originally by: Patricia Arquette There were lots of stars at night. purple and red and yellow and on fire You don't see that. You might still see it in the desert.
Fink Angel Caldari The Merry Men	Posted - 2007.12.30 02:13:00 - [14] Look for "Weissbeer" (Wheat Beer) which is my favourite type of beer. Not sure what brands you'll easily get hold of in the States, but I'd certainly recommend Hooegarden if you can get it. Avoid some of the silly 8%+ stuff! http://www.germanbeerguide.co.uk/styles.html
Kata Dakini An Eye For An Eye Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.12.30 03:38:00 - [15] Originally by: Xen Gin If I had a choice between Stella Artois and Bud, It'd have to be the Stella, American beers really pale in comparison. Is that a fact? (taken from here) 2006 World Beer Cup medal winners list (by country) USA - 159 Germany - 28 Belgium - 15 Australia - 10 Japan - 10 England - 6 Canada - 5 Czech Rep. - 2 Italy - 2 Argentina - 1 Dominican Rep. - 1 El Salvador - 1 Iceland - 1 Lithuania - 1 Netherlands - 1 Paraguay - 1 Romania - 1 Russia - 1 Trinidad - 1 Fact is, the US completely dominates when it comes to actual professional beer judges opinions. Germany completely dominates many of the German style categories (as you'd expect). Belgium does well in Belgian style categories, but doesn't dominate. Granted, your taste and their taste is going to differ. For example, I'd much rather drink a Pabst (2006 Gold Medal!!! HAHA!) than any beer from the Czech Rep. (or those of similar style). Those hoppy skunky beers just aren't good to me. I do, however, enjoy many of the Belgian styles. /me dons fire suit For more enjoyment and greater efficiency, consumption is being standardized.
Justin Marr Macabre Votum Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.12.30 04:26:00 - [16] Originally by: Kata Dakini Pretty much anything from Colorado not associated with Coors or Flat Tire. Otherwise, Colorado beer ftw. What he said x2, but depends on your taste. There are many types/flavors of beer available. When I turned 21 I went out with a buddy and bought 35 types of beer, 2 of each. We liked some and didn't like some. Maybe you should try a 'sampler' event. Regards, JM Ignorance is Curable, Stupidity is Forever. R.I.P EVSC
Jason Marshall Hammer Of Light	Posted - 2007.12.30 07:14:00 - [17] I went with Yukon Gold English Style Pale Ale, and Irish Stout from Murphys. Thanks for all the suggestions Bookmarkign thread for future reference. Im different from most teens i think, i enjoy the flavor of what i drink and have never really drank to drown so this helps alot guys. Tacky Lensflares in sigs ftw
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2007.12.30 08:58:00 - [18] Edited by: Xen Gin on 30/12/2007 08:58:04 Originally by: Kata Dakini Originally by: Xen Gin If I had a choice between Stella Artois and Bud, It'd have to be the Stella, American beers really pale in comparison. Is that a fact? (taken from here) 2006 World Beer Cup medal winners list (by country) USA - 159 Germany - 28 Belgium - 15 Australia - 10 Japan - 10 England - 6 Canada - 5 Czech Rep. - 2 Italy - 2 Argentina - 1 Dominican Rep. - 1 El Salvador - 1 Iceland - 1 Lithuania - 1 Netherlands - 1 Paraguay - 1 Romania - 1 Russia - 1 Trinidad - 1 Fact is, the US completely dominates when it comes to actual professional beer judges opinions. Germany completely dominates many of the German style categories (as you'd expect). Belgium does well in Belgian style categories, but doesn't dominate. Granted, your taste and their taste is going to differ. For example, I'd much rather drink a Pabst (2006 Gold Medal!!! HAHA!) than any beer from the Czech Rep. (or those of similar style). Those hoppy skunky beers just aren't good to me. I do, however, enjoy many of the Belgian styles. /me dons fire suit Ohhh, and theirs me for saying my opinion. Can't deny that with facts now can we. Also that really isn't a world ranking is it, because the categories like you said are American Lite, Belgian style etc etc how could a Belgian style win an American type beer category?
Kata Dakini An Eye For An Eye Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.12.30 09:29:00 - [19] Originally by: Xen Gin Ohhh, and theirs me for saying my opinion. Can't deny that with facts now can we. Also that really isn't a world ranking is it, because the categories like you said are American Lite, Belgian style etc etc how could a Belgian style win an American type beer category? In 2006, there were 85 categories. Now I'm sure the judging is a bit biased, but the judging pool has people from all over the world. If you notice here that Germany does very well in the German style categories. Belgium does alright in the Belgian categories. What concerns me, is that the UK does terrible when it comes to English, Irish, Scottish styles. I'm a first generation American on my mother's side (she was born in Blackpool), and when I went to England, I honestly can't remember having a pint that blew me away the way some of the stuff here in the states does. I think it's more of an influence in trendy culture, though. Here in the states, a small brewpup can make a killing simply by selling something unique in a unique place. A good example is Breckenridge Brewery. Their beer isn't bad at all, but it's nothing special. However, they sell it in a ski resort town. That alone is going to make it popular. People are going to head back to Nebraska and Texas, telling all their friends how good that beer is (though it might be because they can't handle more than 3 pints before the elevation kicks their butt). I'm just trying to bring to light the fact that most Europeans completely disregard American beer because all they know is Bud and Miller and Coors. I don't blame them entirely. It's easy to overlook all the very high quality craft beers being made here. Is it the best in the world? Not necessarily, because it all depends on your taste, not to mention beer doesn't exactly travel well. I've had English beers in England that I really liked, but when I've bought them here, they're not good at all. I'm not sure if it's an import/export thing where the recipes change for whatever regulatory reasons, or if it's because it's just not as fresh. There's a brand new Belgian bar just down the street from me. The Cheeky Monk. I've been there exactly once. There was a pub crawl one night, and it was the second to last stop. I went in with some friends, and one of my buddies ordered the first round for five or six of us. His bill, for just one round, came to $70. WTFW??!?!@#!@#? The beer was really good (don't remember what it was, probably a Hoegaarden) but was it worth $12 for a single pint? XXXX NO! I could go buy a 375ml of good bourbon for that! Though, when all is said and done, American beers are generally superior, because of the simple fact that we are so much more diverse geographically and culturally. That's going to create more variety, which, in turn, is going to create more highly skilled brewmasters in each style. To put a long post short... STOP DISSING AMERICAN BEERS WHEN YOU CLEARLY HAVE NEVER TRIED THE CREAM OF THE CROP!!! For more enjoyment and greater efficiency, consumption is being standardized.
Neon Genesis The Landed Gentry	Posted - 2007.12.30 09:51:00 - [20] Edited by: Neon Genesis on 30/12/2007 09:51:10 Originally by: Fink Angel Look for "Weissbeer" (Wheat Beer) which is my favourite type of beer. Not sure what brands you'll easily get hold of in the States, but I'd certainly recommend Hooegarden if you can get it. Avoid some of the silly 8%+ stuff! http://www.germanbeerguide.co.uk/styles.html Schneiderweisse and Franziskaner are also very good. _
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2007.12.30 10:27:00 - [21] Originally by: Kata Dakini To put a long post short... STOP DISSING AMERICAN BEERS WHEN YOU CLEARLY HAVE NEVER TRIED THE CREAM OF THE CROP!!! I'm not "dissing" American beers, but you are right the import/export thing does make up for some bad versions. Also I don't think there is any English beer I like, (Since I'm Welsh) but I do prefer European lager compared to anything Britain has and any American beer you can get here. Also truth be told, I'd rather a scotch or a bourbon over beer.
Max Godsnottlingson Amarr Freelancing Corp Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2007.12.30 12:15:00 - [22] Jason, if you want to develope a taste for real flavoursom beer. Th efirst thing I would say is stay away from the big conglomorate brewed rubbish. No matter where you are in the world look to try some of your local brewed beer. Though I am English I know enought to know that the US has some fantastic macro/local breweries making some out of the world beers. Granted, some are an 'aquiered taste' but it will be well worth you pushing through that initial "Yuch that Sheeit" stage. For anybody wanting to try a true English beer try the following Theakstons Old Peculier. A dark beer, what we would call a Mild, not as dark as a stout (Guiness type drink) and never drunk cold Morlands Old Speckled Hen. A pale ale that must be drank at room temp and never cold Greenkings Abbots Tipple. I've not been in the Ipswich/Norwich area for many years so not sure if you can still get this, but it was a fantasic beer, a Pale Ale blended with a little mead. If you are US based, one English beet that I would recommend, and which I know to be quite available there, at least in the Chicago area is Newcastle Brown Ale
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.30 14:49:00 - [23] Originally by: Kata Dakini What concerns me, is that the UK does terrible when it comes to English, Irish, Scottish styles. I'm a first generation American on my mother's side (she was born in Blackpool), and when I went to England, I honestly can't remember having a pint that blew me away the way some of the stuff here in the states does. All the best English beer comes from the micro-breweries. None of which, I note, are listed as participants in the World Cup site. For a great English pint you've GOT to find yourself a good Free House with a long guest beer list. Mass produced beer is mediocre the world over, and most pubs only serve their brewery's house ales. ------ Originally by: CCP Prism X There's no such thing as playing too much EvE! You all obviously need more accounts!
Michael Winter Gallente New Justice Minuit.	Posted - 2008.01.03 10:14:00 - [24] Guinness, or Murphy's red/Irish stout. Now that's beer!. And btw, American beer sucks arse. No matter howmuch contests you'll throw against it. Any country that has a big percentage of people drinking 'light' beer should be nuked on sight.
Fink Angel Caldari The Merry Men	Posted - 2008.01.03 10:34:00 - [25] To the OP ... hope you enjoyed your birthday / New Years. Which beer did you like the best?
DonSailieri Eve Defence Force Insurgency	Posted - 2008.01.03 11:45:00 - [26] Do you guys got Speight's / Tui / Lion Red over there? DonSailieri

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