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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.03.18 11:52:00 -
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Edited by: Jim Raynor on 18/03/2004 11:55:36 Level 3 Heavy Missiles skill is now a prerequisite for the Torpedoes skill, Cruise Missiles skill, and the operation of Heavy Missiles.
Hmmm, I just lost my ability to fire cruise missiles, I have heavy missile at level 1.
Would have been nice to have a little warning about this so I could train it up before patch, now my Raven is out of commission for a bit.
Ugh.. ------
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Khal St
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Posted - 2004.03.18 11:54:00 -
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2004.03.18 11:58:00 -
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When did this happen or has it yet to be implimented? -----------------------------
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.03.18 12:01:00 -
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Quote:
When did this happen or has it yet to be implimented?
It's in todays patch. I don't know 100% if you won't be able to fire cruise missiles before getting the heavy missile prerequisite skill trained up but I'm pretty sure you can't.
So if you want to use your cruise missiles again, train your heavy missile skill to 3 asap! :/ ------
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Moah
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Posted - 2004.03.18 12:03:00 -
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If you want to train CM lvl 1, than you must have the heavy missile skill at level 3. but if you allready have cm lvl X, you should still be able to fire cms...
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Isiana
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Posted - 2004.03.18 12:04:00 -
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is sais the skill requires that, so maybe....if u have already have the skill trained there shouldnt be any effect....im just guessing
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Serge Tahlon
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Posted - 2004.03.18 12:07:00 -
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ah great.. more skill training ~~ signatures ?! all they do is wasteing space... ~~ |

Chaosbringer
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Posted - 2004.03.18 12:18:00 -
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Edited by: Chaosbringer on 18/03/2004 12:24:12 Wonderful my heavy missiles are at lv 1.....Another well thought out change by CCP
So Im reduced to loading "lights" till I train it up WOW
Someone REALLY doesn't like Caldari's
Edit > Lets hope thats what it is...still a bit of a pain for those frigate pilots not trained up to cruise missile lv yet, lv 4 missile op, lv 3 heavy's 
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.03.18 13:08:00 -
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This is so great for people who have trained up cruise missiles lvl 5 and wont be able to use them, not to mention that it is their primary weapon.
Wish CCP would change it so you need Small and Medium turret lvl 5 as req¦s fr Large weapons  Spawn of the Devil
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Robskiwarrior
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Posted - 2004.03.18 13:10:00 -
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LOL im just training up to lvl 5 miss ops now...
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.03.18 13:11:00 -
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Jim you forgot this
Quote: Level 3 Standard Missile skill is now a prerequisite for the Heavy Missiles skill and their operation.
Seems you cant train heavy missiles to lvl 3 unless train standard missiles to lvl 3 as well  Spawn of the Devil
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Jernau Gurgeh
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Posted - 2004.03.18 13:13:00 -
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Quote: This is so great for people who have trained up cruise missiles lvl 5 and wont be able to use them, not to mention that it is their primary weapon.
Wish CCP would change it so you need Small and Medium turret lvl 5 as req¦s fr Large weapons 
Actually, where guns are concerned, you do need small 3 to learn medium, and medium 3 to learn large. So this change does make a certain amount of sense.
It would have been better if CCP had given more warning though.
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KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2004.03.18 13:15:00 -
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You should ideally have standard missiles at lvl 4 anyway, for the bonuses it gives. As for heavy missiles lvl3, I think mine is at lvl 1 or 2 so that sucks :/
Is it 100% confirmed you can't actually use your cruise missiles with a low heavy missiles skill even though you have the cruise missile skill, or is it just speculation? ---
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.03.18 13:20:00 -
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Oh just great... I have to clone to empire, train and train lvl 3 other crappy skill thanks CCP... And i thought i was just upset regarding setting on a skill that last 2 hrs and i need to go like NOW... __________________________
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Wotok
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Posted - 2004.03.18 13:27:00 -
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OK, a little heads up when you change skills would be nice.
But how long does this training take? 1 day, 2 days? It's not that catastrophe. And those changes make sense. It's ridiculous you are completely unskilled with normal missiles but can use cruise missiles. And btw: You should have standard missiles at least at 4. It gives bonus for all targeted missiles, including cruise missiles.
But nevertheless: information about changing skills would be nice.
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Judicator
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Posted - 2004.03.18 13:32:00 -
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Great, I'll wager I'll come home and find I cannot use cruise missile and when I try and use my miner II I am probably lacking whatever they changed there too.
If that is the case, I will personally nominate CCP for a fecktard award.
I am training Frigave V and I really do not feel like wasting time on other skilsl right now just because they suddenly decide to change stuff around. -------------------------
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.03.18 13:34:00 -
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/emote laughs at all the losers that hadn¦t trained heavy missiles to lvl 3.
/emote looks at his heavy missile skill.... CRAP!  __________ Capacitor research |

Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.03.18 13:36:00 -
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Quote: OK, a little heads up when you change skills would be nice.
But how long does this training take? 1 day, 2 days? It's not that catastrophe. And those changes make sense. It's ridiculous you are completely unskilled with normal missiles but can use cruise missiles. And btw: You should have standard missiles at least at 4. It gives bonus for all targeted missiles, including cruise missiles.
But nevertheless: information about changing skills would be nice.
I am sure most if not all dedicated missile users have standard missiles lvl 5 but heavy missiles is a diffirent thing all togather since probably no on e has it trained above lvl 1 
Doesnt matter how long it takes to train it if its needed since people who fight and use cruise missiles as primary weapons wont be able to play the game at all when they log on. Spawn of the Devil
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RedShadow
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Posted - 2004.03.18 13:37:00 -
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i made it to level 2, then realized it was useless lol... 
I sure hope i can still use my cruise/torps though  It's OK! I had subway! |

TIvian
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Posted - 2004.03.18 13:43:00 -
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OK I have NEVER EVER been upset about any changes untill NOW.
THIS DAMN REQ CHANGE IS UNEXCEPTABLE!!! I ALREADY MET MY REQs TO FIRE TORPS AND CRUISE MISSILES!!
KISS MY MISSILES CCP!! you should have already thought about this!!! (\_/) (O.o) (> <) Teh Uber Asheron's Call Bunny Booty WTFPWNZ you!! |

Rancid Mare
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Posted - 2004.03.18 13:47:00 -
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nice one ccp....
where is this community manager you are said to employ ? why isnt he here dealing with peoples questions and putting right the dmg that these continual issues cause ?
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swisher
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Posted - 2004.03.18 13:48:00 -
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Edited by: swisher on 18/03/2004 13:54:14 good to go here...but I agree wish we had a warning sooner overall
I dont have a problem with CCP nerfing everything under the sun which they are always doing but when it comes to skills that take time to train..that is a whole different story. |

Isang Relow
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Posted - 2004.03.18 13:56:00 -
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Quote: Hmmm, I just lost my ability to fire cruise missiles, I have heavy missile at level 1.
lol, serves you right
(i always train my skills to lvl 3, only go above 3 if necessary)
One other thing, it was clearly stated in news/dev blog that this was going to happen, so it's your fault. They did give us a warning.
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Chaosbringer
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Posted - 2004.03.18 14:07:00 -
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Edited by: Chaosbringer on 18/03/2004 14:15:55 Hey Jim its going to make things "interesting" in Curse if that is the case....cause I would think there is very few people that have heavy missile lv 3 
I have a few sabretooth's somewhere 
But.. I seem to remember getting podded a while back and still being able to fly my cruiser even tho I had lost the frigate skill lv required, so perhaps all will be well..fingers crossed.
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Chaosbringer
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Posted - 2004.03.18 14:08:00 -
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Edited by: Chaosbringer on 18/03/2004 14:10:13 *double*
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Vorax
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Posted - 2004.03.18 14:09:00 -
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I am in the process of training up for CM now, so for me this just means a bit more time.
However, I understand why you guys are ****ed.
There is someone to blame other then CCP though. I am sure this was done to stop people starting alts, training up CM, to use a Kestral to kill innocents in .5+, sacrificing their ship so their buddies can loot it. Now that CM takes alot more to get, this will help curb this problem.
Again, the exploiters/griefers are ruining the fun for everyone and leaving CCP no choice. If people would stop breaking the damn rules, the rules wouldn't get strickter and strickter.
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Inconstant Moon
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Posted - 2004.03.18 14:12:00 -
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this adds another few days to training up a grief-alt. a few less kestrel-cruise disposable pirates in the world, everyone benefits. except those who think they have a god-given right to upset people just because the game mechanics let them.
it makes sense in roleplaying terms, if you're mystified by lesser missiles, why would you be able to use the deadliest most difficult ones?
in case you're snorting and fuffing steam, i'm playing caldari/missile flavour too, and i'm not complaining.
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Severus Trajan
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Posted - 2004.03.18 14:20:00 -
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While I agree the change could have been posted A BIT earlier... ...the change itself is very good. Now all weapon related skills follow the same path to improvement, in that each higher step requires level 3 of the previous one.
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.03.18 14:27:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Chaosbringer on 18/03/2004 12:24:12 Wonderful my heavy missiles are at lv 1.....Another well thought out change by CCP
So Im reduced to loading "lights" till I train it up WOW
Someone REALLY doesn't like Caldari's
Not only Caldari got Screwed over ....
Minnies got hit pretty bad also 
i am using 50/50 missiles and projektiles after all.....
CCP...... u realy know how to make ur customers unhappy  -------------------------------------------
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Chaosbringer
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Posted - 2004.03.18 14:28:00 -
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Quote: (i always train my skills to lvl 3, only go above 3 if necessary)
If you trained Torpedoes to Level 3 enjoy watching them blow each other up 
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Phoenixgurl
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Posted - 2004.03.18 14:29:00 -
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yup. More community talk from the devs please. And don't point to me the "dev chat" that happens one time a week during the day, I'm working like most people!
We need the devs to talk in forums, to express their concerns and all... please! --------------------------
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cashman
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Posted - 2004.03.18 14:31:00 -
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This also goes for the Miner II skillrequirements!
Mining lvl4...great 
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.03.18 14:32:00 -
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nice change, stupid implementation.
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.03.18 14:34:00 -
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I have heard that people can still use their cruise missiles.

When I tried it, they worked like usual. But I have a feeling it is best to train the skills needed to use them legally.
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Isiana
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Posted - 2004.03.18 14:38:00 -
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they could atleast have told us in advance! 
Carebear|Me Alts |

Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.03.18 14:42:00 -
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actualy, i can use cruise missles...(heavy missle lvl 1)
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Armetheus
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Posted - 2004.03.18 15:21:00 -
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Please keep comments regarding the new patch in here
Thanks 
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