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Tombert	Posted - 2008.01.01 04:22:00 - [1] I am a drone spec ratter with just under 20 mil SP, 4.5sp of which are in drones. I cannot yet use T2 Large Hybrids, but I am training for them now. I love my Domi, don't get me wrong. I have Gall BS trained to lvl 5, and Drone interfacing to lvl 5 as well. What is the next step for a Domi pilot? I have looked at the other BS's and it seems like I would need a lot more training in Gunnery to out DPS my current Domi. I am in the process of making isk (took a 1.5 year break) so I am ratting in 0.0. Is there a better ship to Rat in? or am I in the right boat? I have been flying a Domi for so long that it would be nice to look at a ship that doesn't look like a turd with lights. What ship should I work towards next if Ratting is my primary passtime atm. Thanks for any responses
Zana Kito Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.01 04:34:00 - [2] Domi is a pretty good for ratting with Sentry IIs, nice dps no ammo. But yes, after domi would be training for T2 guns. Very worth it but takes awhile. Also depends what your focus is, pve doesn't need t2 guns, but in pvp its pretty much required.
Wayward Hooligan Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.01.01 08:06:00 - [3] Geddon and Typhoon both have large drone bays. If you're thinking about cross training a geddon will get a lot of use outta those drone skills. They both armor tank so you won't have to cross train tanking or cap skills. You'd just need to train frig 4, cruiser 4, bs 4 and large energy turret 5. . .. WELP! .. .
David Khan War Crimes	Posted - 2008.01.01 09:48:00 - [4] Ishtar is a viable option if you feel like continuing the drone route.
nabort Immoral Tendancies	Posted - 2008.01.01 09:51:00 - [5] Edited by: nabort on 01/01/2008 09:51:00 It depends on what rats you're fighting, and how dangerous the area you are in is. If its dangerous, I'd be tempted to upgrade to an Ishtar - same DPS, decent tank, lots of drones but aligns and move quicker, meaning you can get out of the belts if you get raided.
Edriahn Gallente Bulgarian Mafia Squad Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2008.01.01 15:12:00 - [6] Having Gal BS V and Drone interfacing V? get a Thanatos and an alt with ceptor/AF to handle drones. It is still the fastest way to rat.
madaluap Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2008.01.01 17:44:00 - [7] Originally by: Edriahn Having Gal BS V and Drone interfacing V? get a Thanatos and an alt with ceptor/AF to handle drones. It is still the fastest way to rat. No way...Get 200 dps frig to assign 500 dps to it? Why not fly a freacking isthar with one character and deal that kind of dps aswell (easily broken with 3* 200mm railgun and ogre II) _________________________________________________ Breetime A killmail!11!1 omgrawr: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Edriahn Gallente Bulgarian Mafia Squad Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2008.01.01 19:51:00 - [8] I wanna see 750 DPS ishtar too, but there isn't such a thing, sorry. Also, the AF is far more agile in catching targets and warping from belt to belt and the fighters are 3 times faster than an ogre II. Because, as we all know, ratting is not only DPS. The guy is asking for the "next step", I think Ishtar is not really an "upgrade" from a Dominix.
Firkragg Blue Labs Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2008.01.01 20:00:00 - [9] Raven with full wing of fighters is funnily fast tbh
DeadRow Naqam	Posted - 2008.01.01 20:01:00 - [10] Originally by: Edriahn I wanna see 750 DPS ishtar too, but there isn't such a thing, sorry. Also, the AF is far more agile in catching targets and warping from belt to belt and the fighters are 3 times faster than an ogre II. Because, as we all know, ratting is not only DPS. The guy is asking for the "next step", I think Ishtar is not really an "upgrade" from a Dominix. An ishtar is a far better and more practical option than getting a 2nd char and a thanatos. Sure you dont get 750dps but the Ishtar costs alot less.
Sue Mee	Posted - 2008.01.02 12:15:00 - [11] get a moros
Raekone	Posted - 2008.01.02 14:01:00 - [12] Originally by: Sue Mee get a moros he said he didn't want a turd with lights
sleepyhead87 Caldari Modesitt Legacies	Posted - 2008.01.02 14:38:00 - [13] Originally by: Raekone Originally by: Sue Mee get a moros he said he didn't want a turd with lights I give you props for making me LOL It's not your SP I'm afraid of, It's your ship.
White Ronin	Posted - 2008.01.02 14:44:00 - [14] Sin. That way you can get into and out of 0.0 easier for better rats and if they unnerf the sensor res you will have a damn fine ship. If not it is still good for ratting.
Trevor Warps	Posted - 2008.01.02 14:56:00 - [15] Edited by: Trevor Warps on 02/01/2008 14:57:05 Originally by: Edriahn I wanna see 750 DPS ishtar too, but there isn't such a thing, sorry. Also, the AF is far more agile in catching targets and warping from belt to belt and the fighters are 3 times faster than an ogre II. Because, as we all know, ratting is not only DPS. The guy is asking for the "next step", I think Ishtar is not really an "upgrade" from a Dominix. lol ... sorry. Yes an Ishtar is a good step after the Domi for ratting because it moves faster, locks faster, warps faster etc etc and we all know ratting isnt all about DPS hehehe The only drawback of the Ishtar Vs Domi for ratting is the cargo space and the guns. But if you are like me, you are using drones to not assle with ammos anyways. So I like the Ishtar much better for ratting.
Face Value	Posted - 2008.01.02 14:58:00 - [16] I think your best bet is to do what I am doing; Train up hybrids and fly a t2 hyperion or megathron for ratting. If you wantto switch to another races BS, you will still have to train up a turret or missile type any ways, in addition to training up a whole new races ships. However, even though I do want to eventually rat in a mega or hype, I'm mostly training the turrets for pvp. The domi is still a great ratter. Just warp in at alonger range and open the engagement with sentries augmented with sensor boosters and drone link augmentors. Stick some turrets in your spare high slots.
TheEndofTheWorld	Posted - 2008.01.02 15:18:00 - [17] Originally by: madaluap Originally by: Edriahn Having Gal BS V and Drone interfacing V? get a Thanatos and an alt with ceptor/AF to handle drones. It is still the fastest way to rat. No way...Get 200 dps frig to assign 500 dps to it? Why not fly a freacking isthar with one character and deal that kind of dps aswell (easily broken with 3* 200mm railgun and ogre II) Or just use a thanatos itself. DCUs, salvagers, cloak, tractor beam, smartbombs 2 target painter, 2 sensor booster(scan res), XL booster(capital, if you have the skills :P) 3 I-stab t2, 3 nano t2 1000 - 1400 dps
Captain Dralisz	Posted - 2008.01.02 18:26:00 - [18] iam fully gallente too tarined everything around the drones. Still thinking heavy drones lvl5 or sentry lvl5 Myrmidon is good with passive shield tank if ur skils on lvl5. Ishtar is better than the dominix couse: smaller and tanking better with the high resist and faster too. So Ishtar is a good ship. I will training Sin to lukring in low sec and scanning in 0.0 so cool for it. after it moros. If u like dominix u do better if learning the autocannons :D no cap usage
Jin Jura	Posted - 2008.01.03 03:13:00 - [19] Get a moros 3 nanofiber t2 4 Istab t2 3 invuln t2 1 SBA t2 1 Capital shield booster 3 heavy neutralizers t2 or faction (zap those frigs) 1 DLA 3 CCC rigs wing of ogre 2 (1109 dps) wing of warden 2 (788 dps) wing of warrior 2 (282 dps @ 6300 m/s max speed, catch most frigs, especially if you zap them) 669 sustained tankable dps with everything running... 1377 sustained tankable dps without neutralizers 3370 max tankable dps and it aligns faster then battleships
David Khan War Crimes	Posted - 2008.01.03 03:19:00 - [20] Originally by: Jin Jura Edited by: Jin Jura on 03/01/2008 03:15:52 Get a moros 3 nanofiber t2 4 Istab t2 3 invuln t2 1 SBA t2 1 Capital shield booster 3 heavy neutralizers t2 or faction (zap those frigs) 1 DLA 3 CCC rigs wing of ogre 2 (1109 dps) wing of warden 2 (788 dps) wing of warrior 2 (282 dps @ 6300 m/s max speed, catch most frigs, especially if you zap them) 57/66/74/82 resists 669 sustained tankable dps with everything running... 1377 sustained tankable dps without neutralizers 3370 max tankable dps and it aligns faster then battleships Never give anyone fitting advice again. Ever.
Jin Jura	Posted - 2008.01.03 03:22:00 - [21] Originally by: David Khan Never give anyone fitting advice again. Ever. whats wrong with it? i realize lock time is a bit slow, but you wait till the rats aggro you anyways to deploy drones. oh, and this is for belt ratting.
Tido Maliyu Condottieri Industries The Economy	Posted - 2008.01.03 03:40:00 - [22] Originally by: David Khan Originally by: Jin Jura Edited by: Jin Jura on 03/01/2008 03:15:52 Get a moros 3 nanofiber t2 4 Istab t2 3 invuln t2 1 SBA t2 1 Capital shield booster 3 heavy neutralizers t2 or faction (zap those frigs) 1 DLA 3 CCC rigs wing of ogre 2 (1109 dps) wing of warden 2 (788 dps) wing of warrior 2 (282 dps @ 6300 m/s max speed, catch most frigs, especially if you zap them) 57/66/74/82 resists 669 sustained tankable dps with everything running... 1377 sustained tankable dps without neutralizers 3370 max tankable dps and it aligns faster then battleships Never give anyone fitting advice again. Ever. LolDon'tWorryThePr0sDoEht Tis only normal
Tombert	Posted - 2008.01.03 04:18:00 - [23] Thanks for all the replies so far. I like the look of the HAC, I used to rat in 0.0 with my trusty Vexor long ago. Cargo space is one of the key elements I look for when ratting, ya I might get more DPS with another boat, but I will have to drop off loot more often cutting into my actual time spend killing (I kill drones, so its all about the loot, no bounties). About the carrier: is it a feasible goal for a casual player? I mean will I spend a lot of time and money getting fuel and such for it? Also can I handle fast frigs and such in such a beast? Thanks agian for all the responses.
Si Delane Sector 7 Visions of Warfare	Posted - 2008.01.03 04:58:00 - [24] Personally? Buying a carrier to NPC just strikes me as the most overboard waste of money I've ever heard of. That said, I just bought a Golem for no better reason than to complete my Caldari ship collection. Think of fighters as cruiser sized vessels that fly like frigates and dps like 2/3 of a battleship and you won't be entirely wrong. Although you know what they say, Don't fly anything you can't afford to lose. Can you afford to faction (if not better, I mean it's a cap ship, if you're spending a billion isk on it, what's a few more billion in fittings...) fit a capital ship after buying it and all the skills AND THEN have it blown up the first time you undock? Also, you'd need a cov-ops trained alt to really npc in a carrier since nobody will cyno you around if you get jumped. Also, I'd investigate the stability of the 0.0 space you're in and make sure it's not getting conquered anytime soon by people who aren't going to like you much. Since you won't be able to fly a carrier for what.... 5-6 months if all you do from now on is train the mandatory operating skills to properly fit it? ------------------------- Actually this IS my main.
Edriahn Gallente Bulgarian Mafia Squad Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2008.01.03 10:37:00 - [25] Originally by: Trevor Warps Yes an Ishtar is a good step after the Domi for ratting because it moves faster, locks faster, warps faster etc etc and we all know ratting isnt all about DPS hehehe The only drawback of the Ishtar Vs Domi for ratting is the cargo space and the guns. But if you are like me, you are using drones to not assle with ammos anyways. So I like the Ishtar much better for ratting. Let me tell you why you are wrong. Ishtar is more agile than the Domi, but it uses the same drones, get it? It may be a good ship, no doubt in that, but it's not na "upgrade" from a domi. It's an upgrade from a Vexor. Dominix has 50% drone damage and more guns. Yeah of course, buyng a carrier just to rat with it is insane. More insane is to rat on belts with it, cuz it probably will get ya killed. But I suppose you have a corp, you have corpmates and don't live in 0.0 alone. And a carrier is a valuable asset to any corporation. Not just for pvp. And you have most of the skills needed. The other way is a command ship which will probably be better than the dominix, but that's a long way to go.

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