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Rectoress	Posted - 2008.01.02 02:12:00 - [1] I am really disappointed the GM's have bowed to this pressure against imune. I understand the larger corps war dec transfer has its isk issues.Immune may have originally been setup to absorb Wardecs and rattle a few cages, but i think it could have a great dynamic in the game of helping the underdog, which i have not seen so far. the only help i have had is being called a noob and endured distastful flaming. What i have seen, are the only corps to be penalised are they PvP corps who don't actually PvP. What i mean by this is they wardec carebears, who have no intention of fighting. Is this game for sololy PvP?, i think not. So high sec is a buffer ground for new players to learn the game and build there character. Also we have new players that want to pvp and start something new for themselves, they can't successfully fight older corps or alliances and are so pushed to practice on carebears or they are the corps that get the kicks out of wardec easy targets. So now what i can see by the forums are people mostly from these plebian PvP corps actually complaining they have to fight against corps in immune that also want to PvP. i Also understand that pirate corps are there for piracy and theft, but the underhand tactics of wardeccing noob corps for easy kills, surely isnt a game mechanic either ccp? With this in mind i feel extremley sorry for yr future custom. As well as a reduced playing experience you have built for new players there will be the problem of keeping them and the game turning into the name of its predecessor Eilte. I mean with the introduction of GTC's after you preaching about isk farmers and people selling isk, has turn this game into a business for players. Business and pleasure don't mix. My conclusion to this is that the game mechanics makes gamers who joined a game for fun, being sucked into having to play longer or not at all. 'Well leave then', i hear all u all say( obviously not ccp)u want my money. It is irrelevant what i do, but i am no doubt expressing views of players that haven't been in the game long and the feelings of yr future noobs. The Dr
Zephyr Rengate Racketeers	Posted - 2008.01.02 02:13:00 - [2] Paragraphs are fun. --------------------------------------------- 2007.12.31 00:45 Racketeers has declared war on iMune Empire.
Waxau The Fated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.01.02 02:15:00 - [3] Originally by: Zephyr Rengate Paragraphs are fun. My Eyez! My BEAUtifal Eyez!
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2008.01.02 02:18:00 - [4] two words goon swarm there is nothing stopping anyone else from starting a new goonswarm. and comeone man paragraphs pink supporter! Future art director at CCP! or texture guy, either or :P http://www.digipen.edu/main/Gallery_Games_2004#Narbacular_Drop Was in class with these folks :P
Jaabaa Prime Minmatar Quam Singulari The Church.	Posted - 2008.01.02 02:18:00 - [5] Edited by: Jaabaa Prime on 02/01/2008 02:17:54 Originally by: Rectoress I am really disappointed the GM's have bowed to this pressure against imune. I understand the larger corps war dec transfer has its isk issues.Immune may have originally been setup to absorb Wardecs and rattle a few cages, but i think it could have a great dynamic in the game of helping the underdog, which i have not seen so far. the only help i have had is being called a noob and endured distastful flaming. What i have seen, are the only corps to be penalised are they PvP corps who don't actually PvP. What i mean by this is they wardec carebears, who have no intention of fighting. Is this game for sololy PvP?, i think not. So high sec is a buffer ground for new players to learn the game and build there character. Also we have new players that want to pvp and start something new for themselves, they can't successfully fight older corps or alliances and are so pushed to practice on carebears or they are the corps that get the kicks out of wardec easy targets. So now what i can see by the forums are people mostly from these plebian PvP corps actually complaining they have to fight against corps in immune that also want to PvP. i Also understand that pirate corps are there for piracy and theft, but the underhand tactics of wardeccing noob corps for easy kills, surely isnt a game mechanic either ccp? With this in mind i feel extremley sorry for yr future custom. As well as a reduced playing experience you have built for new players there will be the problem of keeping them and the game turning into the name of its predecessor Eilte. I mean with the introduction of GTC's after you preaching about isk farmers and people selling isk, has turn this game into a business for players. Business and pleasure don't mix. My conclusion to this is that the game mechanics makes gamers who joined a game for fun, being sucked into having to play longer or not at all. 'Well leave then', i hear all u all say( obviously not ccp)u want my money. It is irrelevant what i do, but i am no doubt expressing views of players that haven't been in the game long and the feelings of yr future noobs. The Dr I am really disappointed that you can't use paragraphs and present the EVE community with a wall of letters. --
Kelron Queldine Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2008.01.02 02:18:00 - [6] iMune can still help corps fight wars, they will just have to actually help them fight, not help them force an early end to the war. Few, if any, players were complaining about having to fight iMune, they were complaining about not being able to fight the corp they declared war on in the first place. --------------------------- Vanilla Crazy Cake!
Admiral Pelleon Caldari White Shadow Imperium Burning Horizons	Posted - 2008.01.02 02:19:00 - [7] AHHHH WALL OF TEXT AHHHHH ________
Armoured C Gallente Globaltech Industries Hedonistic Imperative	Posted - 2008.01.02 02:19:00 - [8] 2 thing which strike me about that can i have your stuff? and for the underdogs you have heat which allows you to push your modules so if you dont have the skills least you have the modules :P and dotn post with your alt :P it disturbing
Bob Stuart Federation Fleet Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2008.01.02 02:27:00 - [9] Originally by: Rectoress I am really disappointed the GMs have bowed to this pressure against Imune. I understand the larger corps war dec transfer has its isk issues. Immune may have originally been setup to absorb Wardecs and rattle a few cages, but I think it could have a great dynamic in the game of helping the underdog, which I have not seen so far. The only help I have had is being called a noob and endured distastful flaming. What I have seen, are the only corps to be penalised are they PvP corps who don't actually PvP. What I mean by this is they wardec carebears, who have no intention of fighting. Is this game for solely PvP?, I think not. So high sec is a buffer ground for new players to learn the game and build their character. Also we have new players that want to pvp and start something new for themselves, they can't successfully fight older corps or alliances and are so pushed to practice on carebears or they are the corps that get the kicks out of wardec easy targets. So now what I can see by the forums are people mostly from these plebian PvP corps actually complaining they have to fight against corps in immune that also want to PvP. I also understand that pirate corps are there for piracy and theft, but the underhand tactics of wardeccing noob corps for easy kills, surely isnt a game mechanic either ccp? With this in mind I feel extremely sorry for your future custom. As well as a reduced playing experience you have built for new players there will be the problem of keeping them and the game turning into the name of its predecessor Elite. I mean with the introduction of GTC's after you preaching about isk farmers and people selling isk, has turn this game into a business for players. Business and pleasure don't mix. My conclusion to this is that the game mechanics makes gamers who joined a game for fun, being sucked into having to play longer or not at all. 'Well leave then', I hear you all say (obviously not ccp) you want my money. It is irrelevant what I do, but I am no doubt expressing views of players that haven't been in the game long and the feelings of your future noobs. The Dr You can pay me 25M Isk for those paragraphs. Otherwise I might take them away.
Ki An Gallente Filiolus Of Bellum	Posted - 2008.01.02 02:27:00 - [10] Originally by: Kelron Queldine iMune can still help corps fight wars, they will just have to actually help them fight, not help them force an early end to the war. Few, if any, players were complaining about having to fight iMune, they were complaining about not being able to fight the corp they declared war on in the first place. ^^ This tbqfsh

SumDum AirHawk Alliance Rule of Three	Posted - 2008.01.02 02:28:00 - [11] Originally by: Rectoress I am really disappointed the GM's have bowed to this pressure against imune. I understand the larger corps war dec transfer has its isk issues.Immune may have originally been setup to absorb Wardecs and rattle a few cages, but i think it could have a great dynamic in the game of helping the underdog, which i have not seen so far. the only help i have had is being called a noob and endured distastful flaming. What i have seen, are the only corps to be penalised are they PvP corps who don't actually PvP. What i mean by this is they wardec carebears, who have no intention of fighting. Is this game for sololy PvP?, i think not. So high sec is a buffer ground for new players to learn the game and build there character. Also we have new players that want to pvp and start something new for themselves, they can't successfully fight older corps or alliances and are so pushed to practice on carebears or they are the corps that get the kicks out of wardec easy targets. So now what i can see by the forums are people mostly from these plebian PvP corps actually complaining they have to fight against corps in immune that also want to PvP. i Also understand that pirate corps are there for piracy and theft, but the underhand tactics of wardeccing noob corps for easy kills, surely isnt a game mechanic either ccp? With this in mind i feel extremley sorry for yr future custom. As well as a reduced playing experience you have built for new players there will be the problem of keeping them and the game turning into the name of its predecessor Eilte. I mean with the introduction of GTC's after you preaching about isk farmers and people selling isk, has turn this game into a business for players. Business and pleasure don't mix. My conclusion to this is that the game mechanics makes gamers who joined a game for fun, being sucked into having to play longer or not at all. 'Well leave then', i hear all u all say( obviously not ccp)u want my money. It is irrelevant what i do, but i am no doubt expressing views of players that haven't been in the game long and the feelings of yr future noobs. The Dr WTA - Paragraph Break Starting Bid: 0.25isk Reserve: Hidden If reserve is met, as a bonus I will throw in a clue. Happy bidding.
Rectoress	Posted - 2008.01.02 02:30:00 - [12] Sorry for the wall of text, its my first post which wasnt meant to be that long!! And thanks Bob
chapter13	Posted - 2008.01.02 02:38:00 - [13] Originally by: Waxau Originally by: Zephyr Rengate Paragraphs are fun. My Eyez! My BEAUtifal Eyez! lol best post in a while
Malken Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2008.01.02 03:45:00 - [14] why doesnt CCP change it so no active wars are allowed for a corp when joining a alliance simplest solution ever.
Troye Gallente Strix Armaments and Defence Acheron Federation	Posted - 2008.01.02 04:51:00 - [15] You can obviously spell, write sentences and present your arguements so what have you got against paragraphs? Originally by: GM Nova What the hell???
Jennai The Greater Goon GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.02 05:08:00 - [16] Originally by: Malken why doesnt CCP change it so no active wars are allowed for a corp when joining a alliance simplest solution ever. cos then you could just wardec someone forever with an alt corp and they'd never be able to join an alliance.
realbadman	Posted - 2008.01.02 05:22:00 - [17] Quote: So high sec is a buffer ground for new players to learn the game and build there character. this is a myth that should not be propagated. stop believing this and your perspective changes, then eve makes much more sense and is a ton of fun
Alski Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.02 05:29:00 - [18] Originally by: Rectoress I am really disappointed the GM's have bowed to this pressure against imune. I understand the larger corps war dec transfer has its isk issues. Immune may have originally been setup to absorb Wardecs and rattle a few cages, but i think it could have a great dynamic in the game of helping the underdog, which i have not seen so far. The only help i have had is being called a noob and endured distastful flaming. What i have seen, are the only corps to be penalised are they PvP corps who don't actually PvP. What i mean by this is they wardec carebears, who have no intention of fighting. Is this game for sololy PvP?, i think not. So high sec is a buffer ground for new players to learn the game and build there character. Also we have new players that want to pvp and start something new for themselves, they can't successfully fight older corps or alliances and are so pushed to practice on carebears or they are the corps that get the kicks out of wardec easy targets. So now what i can see by the forums are people mostly from these plebian PvP corps actually complaining they have to fight against corps in immune that also want to PvP. i Also understand that pirate corps are there for piracy and theft, but the underhand tactics of wardeccing noob corps for easy kills, surely isnt a game mechanic either ccp? With this in mind i feel extremley sorry for yr future custom. As well as a reduced playing experience you have built for new players there will be the problem of keeping them and the game turning into the name of its predecessor Eilte. I mean with the introduction of GTC's after you preaching about isk farmers and people selling isk, has turn this game into a business for players. Business and pleasure don't mix. My conclusion to this is that the game mechanics makes gamers who joined a game for fun, being sucked into having to play longer or not at all. 'Well leave then', i hear all u all say( obviously not ccp)u want my money. It is irrelevant what i do, but i am no doubt expressing views of players that haven't been in the game long and the feelings of yr future noobs. The Dr Fixed that for you. (added some ******* Paragraphs's to stop my eyes from burning) - (combat) Patch belonging to CCP hits your drones, wrecking their liberty and freedom.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2008.01.02 05:39:00 - [19] if you join a corp and they die to a wardec it was a **** corp and you are better off somewhere else anyways.
Kyra Felann Gallente Elite Storm Enterprises	Posted - 2008.01.02 06:48:00 - [20] Holy wall of text! Thanks, I now have a headache and that's just from glancing at that huge block of unbroken text. Try paragraph breaks next time. I'm not kidding. Try reading that huge block of text on 1600x1200 resolution and tell me it doesn't give you eye-strain or a headache.

fasfhadtrv	Posted - 2008.01.02 06:53:00 - [21] Edited by: fasfhadtrv on 02/01/2008 06:55:06 Originally by: Rectoress I am really disappointed the GM's have bowed to this pressure against imune. I understand the larger corps war dec transfer has its isk issues.Immune may have originally been setup to absorb Wardecs and rattle a few cages, but i think it could have a great dynamic in the game of helping the underdog, which i have not seen so far. the only help i have had is being called a noob and endured distastful flaming. What i have seen, are the only corps to be penalised are they PvP corps who don't actually PvP. What i mean by this is they wardec carebears, who have no intention of fighting. Is this game for sololy PvP?, i think not. So high sec is a buffer ground for new players to learn the game and build there character. Also we have new players that want to pvp and start something new for themselves, they can't successfully fight older corps or alliances and are so pushed to practice on carebears or they are the corps that get the kicks out of wardec easy targets. So now what i can see by the forums are people mostly from these plebian PvP corps actually complaining they have to fight against corps in immune that also want to PvP. i Also understand that pirate corps are there for piracy and theft, but the underhand tactics of wardeccing noob corps for easy kills, surely isnt a game mechanic either ccp? With this in mind i feel extremley sorry for yr future custom. As well as a reduced playing experience you have built for new players there will be the problem of keeping them and the game turning into the name of its predecessor Eilte. I mean with the introduction of GTC's after you preaching about isk farmers and people selling isk, has turn this game into a business for players. Business and pleasure don't mix. My conclusion to this is that the game mechanics makes gamers who joined a game for fun, being sucked into having to play longer or not at all. 'Well leave then', i hear all u all say( obviously not ccp)u want my money. It is irrelevant what i do, but i am no doubt expressing views of players that haven't been in the game long and the feelings of yr future noobs. The Dr PVP corps gang together... form alliance... hunt down immune and anyone ever associated with it. Lesson is learned... problem solved... Sorry but this is such a big whine... seriously I know tons of the pirates RP a lot more then anyone else in eve. A lot of corps will be highly offended by this... don't expect it to last.
Ris Dnalor Minmatar Ama-gi	Posted - 2008.01.02 11:52:00 - [22] hmmm can we put buy orders up for specific people's corpses yet? I would find that such a useful function... -- No love for the Matari
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Xonkra Gallente	Posted - 2008.01.02 14:27:00 - [24] Originally by: Rectoress IamreallydisappointedtheGM'shavebowedtothispres sureagainstimune.Iunderstandthelargercorpswardectransferhasitsiskissues. Immunemayhaveoriginallybeensetuptoabsorbwardecsandrattleafewcages butithinkitcouldhaveagreatdynamicinthegameofhelpingtheunderdog, whichihavenotseensofar.theonlyhelpihavehadisbeingcalledanooband endureddistastfulflamingWhatihaveseen,aretheonlycorpstobeenalised aretheyPvPcorpswhodon'tactuallyPvP.Whatimeanbythisistheywardec carebears,whohavenointentionoffighting.IsthisgameforsololyPvP?, ithinknot.Sohighsecisabuffergroundfornewplayerstolearnthegame andbuildtherecharacter.Alsowehavenewplayersthatwanttopvpand startsomethingnewforthemselvestheycan'tsuccessfullyfightolder ortheyarethecorpsthatgetthekicksoutofwardeceasytargets.Sonow corpsactuallycomplainingtheyhavetofightagainstcorpsinimmunethat alsowanttoPvP.iAlsounderstandthatpiratecorpsarethereforpiracy andtheft,noobcorpsforeasykills,gamemechaniceitherccp?Withthisin mindifeelextremleysorryforyrfuturecustom.Aswellasareduced playingexperienceyouhavebuiltfornewplayerstherewillbetheproblem ofkeepingthemandthegameturningintothenameofitspredecessorEilte. ImeanwiththeintroductionofGTC'safteryoupreachingaboutiskfarmersandpeople sellingisk,hasturnthisgameintoabusinessforplayers.Businessand pleasuredontmix.Myconclusiontothisisthatthegamemechanicsmakes gamerswhojoinedagameforfun,beingsuckedintohavingtoplaylongeror notatall.'Wellleavethen',ihearalluallsay(obviouslynotccp) uwantmymoney.Itisirrelevantwhatido,iamnodoubtexpressingviews ofplayersthathaven'tbeeninthegamelongandthefeelingsofyrfuture noobs.TheDr not much different huh Originally by: Illyria Ambri No matter how you want to say it.. it always sounds like frog clearing throat "Ve zurrendur, dunt schuut"
Jaketh Ivanes Amarr Do Or Die And Live Or Try The Kano Organisation	Posted - 2008.01.02 15:20:00 - [25] Edited by: Jaketh Ivanes on 02/01/2008 15:21:23 I have no personal experience with iMune, but as far as I've heard, they don't help in fighting. They help remove war dec's from any corp, making them immune to wars and an essential part of the game. Let me paint a picture for you. My corp comes to your system and start stealing your ore, can's and whatnot. You then decide to fight for your right to do missions, mine and whatnot, by declaring war upon my corp. As soon as the war becomes active, we join iMune and leave within the same minute. This will transfer the war declaration to the iMune alliance and give my corp a 24 hour "break" period where we can fight. This is so far "ok" in essence. Problem is, you have to wait for the period to expire before you can redeclare upon us again. The war vote takes 24 hours to complete. After that, there is another 24 hours where the war is "warming up" and we can't fight. Then we do the same "join iMune and leave" and get 2 days of no wars. Each time you pay for the war, you pay for a week and we are only exposed for a day or so. You can also keep the war with iMune (paying 300mill every week vs 3 mill against 1 corp) and redeclare upon us, but you will be throwing a lot of iskies out the window. Does it still seem fair to you?
Kaar Art of War	Posted - 2008.01.02 15:26:00 - [26] Originally by: Jaabaa Prime I am really disappointed that you can't use paragraphs and present the EVE community with a wall of letters. Coming from you Jaabaa im sure that means a lot. --- ---
VicturusTeSaluto Metafarmers	Posted - 2008.01.02 15:26:00 - [27] Originally by: Admiral Pelleon AHHHH WALL OF TEXT AHHHHH this
Seeing EyeDog	Posted - 2008.01.02 15:35:00 - [28] Originally by: Malken why doesnt CCP change it so no active wars are allowed for a corp when joining a alliance simplest solution ever. simple, really? This is so exploitable. You have word that a corp wants to join an alliance. Keep war dec'ing them for a small fee, to kep them from joining an alliance. This is nearly as bad as role griefing. _____________________ Originally by: Locus Bey Intelligence isn't a prequisite for being a Goon, in fact its a deficit.
Xaen Caldari Thunder Muffin	Posted - 2008.01.02 16:20:00 - [29] Wall of text vs. my level of interest. Result: wall of text wins -- Support fixing the EVE UI \| Suggest Jita fixes


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