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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.03.19 16:32:00 -
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Edited by: Skillz on 19/03/2004 16:33:07
Thanks Oresets, sorry Dreamscape.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2004.03.19 16:47:00 -
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1. There was a pirate fleet thought to be heading to 4c from COT-77.
2. There were DS members stuck in 4c tryin to get back to Lum
3. NORAD waited for the pirate fleet however the stayed put
4. NORAD decided to meet them in COT-77
5. The Pirates moved back to Lum direction
6. NORAD followed
This was an anti pirate operation. No innocents were killed by DS. No one was killed by DS! I caused 100 Damage on SOTH. Yay. He had just blew up a friends ship.
NORAD does not open fire on innocents. AFAIK NORAD does not claim PF, to me it is simply the place were pirates occasionally hang out.
You are at war with us therefore you are a target. You were not a spy. You maybe an alt but you are used for scams. SOTH was a pirate.
Also one of your replies to me is 'better luck to you than Jebidus Skari' can I ask what you are referring to? I have no idea what this reply is supposed to mean 
Thanks for the apology (in all seriousness)
If you believe innocents were killed please tell the NORAD leadership of our fleets gross disobedience, and I hearltily support punishment of the perpetrators and reimbursemnt of the affected parties
I think thats it 
Vels
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2004.03.19 16:50:00 -
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'When honest pirates gate camp and podkill everything they see, it is Piracy/Griefing/Ganking.'
Yes, out of those three its piracy. Hence why we moved on and anti piracy operation. i cant speak for DS but I believe pirates are needed in this game, if I was confined to empire i wouldnt play, I like heading to 0.0 to take part in PVP.
Vels
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.03.19 16:51:00 -
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Edited by: Skillz on 19/03/2004 16:58:01
It was directed to Jeb, not you.
And yes, the game needs more people in 0.0 and in 0.0 to 0.4, miners, pirates, anti-pirates (whatever that is), agent missions runners. (Make Intaki faction and the other factions in 0.0 to pay out 10 times what they do in safespot space),
Remove noxium and mexallon content ore from 0.5+
Ban battleship/cruiser mining of the Veldspar/Scordite in those areas, it's supposed to be for newbies in frigates.
The profit/risk ratio's in the different domains is hilarous and CCP can fix it, if they want to.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Jebidus Skari
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Posted - 2004.03.19 16:59:00 -
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To: Jebidus Skari
You flamed our recruitment thread, you also flamed this thread. Why, do you usually accuse others of your very own fallacies? A typical veldspar poisoned psycotic.
I'm sorry but you are factually incorrect 
I never passed a single comment in your little recruitment thread because I have no interest in you or your corp.
Likewise, I never flamed anywhere in this thread. I simply pointed out that this thread was pointless, which it is. The pictures that were posted show two corps you are at war with camping a gate. I still don't understand what the initial fuss the poster made was all about.
Please re-read the thread if you disagree with any of these posts, thnx 
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.03.19 17:03:00 -
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Ok, not you personally perhaps but 'you' in the meaning of Forsaken Alliance.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2004.03.19 17:09:00 -
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You are absolutley correct, DS also believes more people should be out in 0.0. I love the 'threat' of PVP and thats why i prefer to stay in 0.0 (i still have a mail frol you telling me to join whatever corp u had at the time  ). But there are countless other threads about getting people to move to <0.4, and doubtless you can make your contribution there, which if constuctive will be well recieved.
To set you straight I do not think you are griefers are gankers, but what you are doing isnt piracy
So care to expand on why forcing people to 0.0 involves declaring war on us? (on a personal level I feel safer in 4c :P, but this is definitly not true of the rest of the corp, many still in there cruisers tryin to get enough isk to head into the scary vastness of 0.0..alliance and pirate territory )
And how the hell do u reply so fast I hope you arnt sitting refreshing the screen :)
And I apologise for misunderstanding about the comment
Vels
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.03.19 17:14:00 -
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Yes, indirectly so. I'm confident that at least 50% of the player base is getting more and more angry over the fact that 95% are in safe space making risk free isk. Many of them might want to go to 0.4 or 0.0, if there was an economical incentive to do so.
If the players don't want to come to the PvP:ers, the PvP:ers will come to the players.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Friday Dillinja
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Posted - 2004.03.19 17:22:00 -
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To: Friday Dillinja
Nice image but why should anyone do buisness with some extortionist in the rear end of space?
Good question. Drop by at Nonni 1 - Lai Dai and ask our customers. 
Some people...
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.03.19 17:25:00 -
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For what it's worth in support of Dreamscape & Velsharoon in particular's postings, NORAD does not pirate nor does it condone piracy in anyway.
We've all got plenty targets if we want them without having to go pirating innocents.
As for regional alliances, claiming space, defending one's space etc.. we all know how that works or doesn't work and what the blurred definitions, circumstances and game mechanics around these issues are. Let's not go there, the basic fact remains we don't do piracy.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.03.19 17:26:00 -
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A Fountain Alliance have their sales and production office in Nonni. Good job CCP.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2004.03.19 17:27:00 -
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But all you do is force a peaceful mining/production corp to hide....in secure space.
Only the people who have been to 0.0 before go there. And we are a PEACEFUL corp,we never tread on anyones toes and for the reason that some players dont want to take part in PVP (and yes i know that pvp is part of the game). People will come to 0.0 as time goes on, you definitly cant push it by declaring war on miners.
Basically you are failing in your objective (if i understand it correctly). Of course another of your stated objectives is to make DS collapse. How will that help? Now that is just griefing
*keep replying please*
Vels
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Friday Dillinja
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Posted - 2004.03.19 17:30:00 -
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A Fountain Alliance have their sales and production office in Nonni. Good job CCP.
Errr... yes. Good point Skillz, as always. I guess.
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2004.03.19 18:07:00 -
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DS may be NORAD but face it skillz there is no market down there, to make a profit we got to build and sell in Lum, were the playerbase is. Lumainaire is on of (if not the most) traveled systems in eve. Bah i forgot what my point was. Well put it like this...would you rather DS not there? All the new players have no were to buy their ships (obviously there are other corps producing but why shouldnt we have a share of the market?)
We are not carebears, just because we not a pvp corp doesnt mean the members dont pvp (you can see Marko Syme and myself in your screenshot as proof of this, and the fact that your corp destroyed my indy many a time in <0.5 shows im not afraid to take risks for better reward).
Skillz your aims are good (get people into 0.0) but you are definitly goin the wrong way about it. Your a pirate so pirate. CCP will realise that there is no grey or middle ground b/n empire and 0.0 (the amount of threads on the topic is a subtle hint), until then you will just have to live with it.
As a said in a previous post contribute to the solution, dont make yourself part of the problem
Vels
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.03.19 19:05:00 -
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Corp war and ore theft in 1.0 are no good solutions but it increases the risk part since CCP for whatever reason refuses to lower the profit part of the equation.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Shadar Logoth
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Posted - 2004.03.19 20:01:00 -
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LOL... this topic died as off the first moment someone tried to use the words "DreamScape" and "Gatecamping" in one sentence...
Guess that would make it from the very start.
Yes, I am a proud member of DreamScape... and yes, unlike Killer Clowns and SARS (... or was it SAS? can''t remember <shrugs> ) people who know DreamScape will recognise this as the simple trueth.
Ok... nice try...! 
Cheers,
Shadar Logoth
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2004.03.19 20:14:00 -
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Viceroy was sadly mistaken, I'm not the dude from the YMCA, no matter how much he hopes and dreams that I am.
I am however, the man with the 'war' buttons.
Whether or not I press them is a different matter altogether.
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Wraeththu
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Posted - 2004.03.19 20:44:00 -
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Viceroy was sadly mistaken, I'm not the dude from the YMCA, no matter how much he hopes and dreams that I am.
/emote sighs and puts his indian costume away.
I never get to use that..
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Phoibos
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Posted - 2004.03.19 23:34:00 -
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First of Dream are not pirates in any way. I have never ever heard of any pirate activities in Dream. If there were those members would be removed from the corp.
And we are not carebears either. Some are I agree. Or were, most of those left corp since they wanted to be safe in 1.0. They are great people, but I think it's sad that they couldn't cope with avoiding some pirates and mining more cautious. Personally I love mining or hunting with a gang of pirates after me trying to get my precious cargo (which they won't) :) But i guess not all are the same.
Also worth pointing out is that we have fought SAS and KK many times. Every larger battle I have taken part of SAS etc have run or lost a lot of ships (4-5 bigger clashes I have taken part of. The largest we had 20 ships). When we are outnumbered we don't fight which does make sense. Our main losses are from the newer members flying in their indys and cruisers, and a few bs folks that didn't pay attention.
Personally I love the combination of strategy, fighting and resource gathering. Generally I like pirates, but I must say SAS is the worst I have seen out there. Not trying to make anyone angry but I mean it. Camping our HQ shooting everyone that is totally ok. But putting up containers with "Dream sucks" and spamming our sales channels with more or less profound words that I'm not impressed with. Personally I don't care about it at all, just sad to seem people embarass themselves.
Personally I think the war has been great fun. Too bad that either we are too strong or you are too strong when one logs in. Or that the other part is gone when you finally have assembled a good force.
/Phoibos
co-ceo of DreamScape
Guardian of the Dream
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Frankinator
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Posted - 2004.03.20 05:40:00 -
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Is that Bosie dude still in dreamscape? I remember capping a handfull of dreamscape cruisers back in the day...if I'm correct?
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Gerome Doutrande
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Posted - 2004.03.20 11:02:00 -
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Quote:
the thing about skillz...
very funny, makes me feel like buying all my stuff from you.
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2004.03.20 13:22:00 -
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Bosie left DS due to lack of pvp :)
He is now in Reikuku (sorry for the poor spelling)
And I remember getting a galaxian gurilla frigate and cruiser in my first ever successful pvp action...ah fond memories.
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Frankinator
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Posted - 2004.03.21 13:11:00 -
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ehhh...so what does bosies corp do these days? Would love to get my hands on him.
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2004.03.21 16:07:00 -
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Mercenaries. I would love to see you attack RKK
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Lion El'Johnson
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Posted - 2004.03.21 16:31:00 -
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ahhh frankinator Bosie is here with me in reikoku and you are quite welcome to come have a go you will find we have a little more experience in pvp now :). On this whole issue of Dreamscape being pirates... roflmfao is all i can do. I mean honestly a bunch of miners and manufacturers who go out of their way to keep a clean nose and someone comes along and declares war. In my opinion DS are not capable of piracy. But that is my 2 cents.
Lion
Contact me ingame to discuss anything involving RKK. Also out of game at [email protected].
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.03.21 17:30:00 -
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oooOOOOooooo,
Yes please frankinator... come get Bosie.
In fact, if you want, we could come get you?
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Lion El'Johnson
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Posted - 2004.03.21 17:40:00 -
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does that mean the hunt is on DB... mwahahahahaha.
Lion
Contact me ingame to discuss anything involving RKK. Also out of game at [email protected].
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Jadrut
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Posted - 2004.03.21 17:58:00 -
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The power of DB's cheese will own you all
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Lion El'Johnson
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Posted - 2004.03.21 18:03:00 -
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nice sig.
Lion
Contact me ingame to discuss anything involving RKK. Also out of game at [email protected].
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Bosie
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Posted - 2004.03.21 22:01:00 -
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Seems very strange to hear DS accused of ganking... Maybe if there were GEEK ships in system and they are the targest... But he Frankinch... err nator how's it going? If you are after a little fight with me head up C4C way as that is where I tend to hang out. Or maybe I shall find out where you gank these days and say hello with some 1400`s. :D
I wish the best to DS in the wars they are fighting as I don't believe that they have ever been the cause for such drastic measures. Well that is unless yer in a PvP Corp that is after a "fish in a barrel shoot", then why not pick on a large industrial Corp with very little PvP experiance/pilots.
Yes that is the reason I left DS as I craved the feeling of combat!
Bosie.
http://bosie.proboards40.com/
http://zeroimpact.co.uk/evemap
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