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Lord TYMAN	Posted - 2008.01.03 01:40:00 - [1] ...some noob you've ransomed for 25m only pays you 18m then you see a Charon on scan and because you're feeling a bit twitchy, mistake a Charon for a carrier then blow up said victim. Are refunds due, or should said victim sit down, and have a nice cup of Shut the Fck Up and pay the full ransom? K thx...
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2008.01.03 01:47:00 - [2] are you feeling nice/what loots did he drop?
Xailz Amarr Error666	Posted - 2008.01.03 01:48:00 - [3] Edited by: Xailz on 03/01/2008 01:51:08 lol how did u manage that ? wen i find a ship on scan unless its painfully obvious what it is i always Rclick on it to see what class ship it is as for the ransom pay him back u bad man WTB: Sig convo in game
Atomos Darksun Havoc Inc Blood Blind	Posted - 2008.01.03 01:54:00 - [4] He didn't pay the whole ransom. His fault, not yours. ----- They've gone to PLAID!!
techzer0 IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2008.01.03 02:02:00 - [5] Originally by: Atomos Darksun He didn't pay the whole ransom. His fault, not yours. Thats a donation, not a ransom ------------ Originally by: Praxis1452 you win eve
Windjammer	Posted - 2008.01.03 02:39:00 - [6] Whatever obligation you may feel yourself to be under is only valid if you are paid what you either asked for or agreed to accept. Since neither was the case here, you were within your "rights" to blow him up without refund whether you intended to blow him up or whether you did so by accident. If he wished to negotiate to 18 mil after being asked for 25 mil, he should have done so in conversation prior to sending you the isk. However, if you're asking if he should now pay you the remainder of the ransom? Gee.......I don't know. You just blew up his freighter and whatever was in it. Maybe he SHOULD bend over and pay you more. Perhaps even thank you, sir, and ask if he might please have another. When will pirate victims learn? Never pay ransom.....or if you really must, only pay it to rats that you have knowledge of.
Arekhon Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2008.01.03 02:57:00 - [7] Originally by: Windjammer However, if you're asking if he should now pay you the remainder of the ransom? Gee.......I don't know. You just blew up his freighter and whatever was in it. Maybe he SHOULD bend over and pay you more. Perhaps even thank you, sir, and ask if he might please have another. read again....he podded the guy because he thought a carrier was comming in, which turned out to be a charon. completely unrelated to the victim. I say less then asked for is a donation, for some the blinking wallet is a ploy to get away. Full amount or pod, it is "just business" Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap [BEES]
Mo Steel Caldari Sanguis vix Dignatio	Posted - 2008.01.03 03:29:00 - [8] Originally by: techzer0 Originally by: Atomos Darksun He didn't pay the whole ransom. His fault, not yours. Thats a donation, not a ransom Precisely right. ----- Want a sig made? Eve-Mail me, signatures made for 5 million isk each.
Orar Ironfist Incarnation of Evil Nocturnal Legion	Posted - 2008.01.03 03:42:00 - [9] Originally by: Arekhon Originally by: Windjammer However, if you're asking if he should now pay you the remainder of the ransom? Gee.......I don't know. You just blew up his freighter and whatever was in it. Maybe he SHOULD bend over and pay you more. Perhaps even thank you, sir, and ask if he might please have another. read again....he podded the guy because he thought a carrier was comming in, which turned out to be a charon. completely unrelated to the victim. I say less then asked for is a donation, for some the blinking wallet is a ploy to get away. Full amount or pod, it is "just business" This Your sig burn is weak If by "Your sig burn is weak" You mean that "Orar is obviuosly alot cooler then me and I fail Very hard" Then i concur with your statement
Artemis Dragmire Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2008.01.03 06:04:00 - [10] Well he didn't pay the full ransom, so I wouldn't have refunded him. If someone doesn't pay me a full ransom, I might negotiate to lower the cost (better to get money than not to sometimes), or if I'm feeling like a particular jerk, I'll blow them out of the sky just for stalling. Speaking of stalling, I once had a guy send me 10 isk as I was chasing him around in my interceptor to try and throw me off. Didn't notice it til a half hour AFTER I podded him. lol
Windjammer	Posted - 2008.01.03 07:39:00 - [11] Originally by: Arekhon Originally by: Windjammer However, if you're asking if he should now pay you the remainder of the ransom? Gee.......I don't know. You just blew up his freighter and whatever was in it. Maybe he SHOULD bend over and pay you more. Perhaps even thank you, sir, and ask if he might please have another. read again....he podded the guy because he thought a carrier was comming in, which turned out to be a charon. completely unrelated to the victim. I say less then asked for is a donation, for some the blinking wallet is a ploy to get away. Full amount or pod, it is "just business" I haven't been feeling well. My dog ate my homework. Aliens were knocking at my front door. There was a full moon. A beautiful woman distracted me. I had too much to drink and the IRS was on the phone asking about some money they thought I had. So.......I was distracted and made a mistake. I can't believe I did that. You can imagine my shock that it was YOU who spotted it. You're right, I am unhappy to admit. Not bad for a souless, slime sucking, rat from the bowels of the netherworld.
Arekhon Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2008.01.03 07:45:00 - [12] Originally by: Windjammer Originally by: Arekhon Originally by: Windjammer However, if you're asking if he should now pay you the remainder of the ransom? Gee.......I don't know. You just blew up his freighter and whatever was in it. Maybe he SHOULD bend over and pay you more. Perhaps even thank you, sir, and ask if he might please have another. read again....he podded the guy because he thought a carrier was comming in, which turned out to be a charon. completely unrelated to the victim. I say less then asked for is a donation, for some the blinking wallet is a ploy to get away. Full amount or pod, it is "just business" I haven't been feeling well. My dog ate my homework. Aliens were knocking at my front door. There was a full moon. A beautiful woman distracted me. I had too much to drink and the IRS was on the phone asking about some money they thought I had. So.......I was distracted and made a mistake. I can't believe I did that. You can imagine my shock that it was YOU who spotted it. You're right, I am unhappy to admit. Not bad for a souless, slime sucking, rat from the bowels of the netherworld. so in what life did I kick your dog? otherwise you must be 1cewind's alt. I merely said "read again". Is it dark there in the deep end? cause man you sure fell off Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap [BEES]
Gaven Blands	Posted - 2008.01.03 10:08:00 - [13] It all depends on whether you're more popular on the forums than him, with a modifier applied based on who posts the event first, and who appears to have least whine. -- Awwwww Diddums! Did I wardec your highsec alt recently or something?
maCH'EttE Veto.	Posted - 2008.01.03 11:27:00 - [14] Personally, I would pay it back, rather than potentially ruin my own, or my Corps reputation over 18mil... Originally by: Devil Hanzo (ISD) I got pwned!
Centinel 6 Amarr The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2008.01.03 18:27:00 - [15] I would agree with you Mac, I would have to pay it back also. Its a learning lesson on your part and that poor basturrds lucky day. Maintaine the balance C6 Quote: Making 6 Inches feel like 12 one hauler at a time
Redbad Minmatar Mean Corp	Posted - 2008.01.03 19:07:00 - [16] Crazy stuff man. I think I'd pay him back after a convo. If he's a smacktard in that convo, I would be inclined to take option B though. RB
Tal Nok Amarr DEATH'S LEGION	Posted - 2008.01.03 19:24:00 - [17] Originally by: Mo Steel Originally by: techzer0 Originally by: Atomos Darksun He didn't pay the whole ransom. His fault, not yours. Thats a donation, not a ransom Precisely right. QFT, too many weak pirates these days who feel bad or feel they need to give it back. Go back to watching roids pop while you can toss over your wallet to me. Originally by: hellsknights It's always nice to kill something you can't afford
Boomershoot Caldari Insurgent New Eden Tribe Deus Ex.	Posted - 2008.01.03 19:53:00 - [18] 18m =/= 25m so, f1, f2, f3 ect... (even if you could just wait for the rest, damn how can you think a charon is a peril for your buisness? LOL)
Taedrin Gallente Magellan Exploration and Survey Rare Faction	Posted - 2008.01.03 21:44:00 - [19] That's a donation, an attempted ransom payment given to you by carebears. Though I hear that it doesn't save your ship very well...
Wind Ictiva Delta Kappa Gamma	Posted - 2008.01.03 23:32:00 - [20] keep it. unless he gave a good explanation in a convo. maybe he hit the wrong keys... but probably not:) Originally by: Admiral Love Hmm creating a thread like this is perhaps a little like sitting naked with bleeding balls in a pool of piranhas. I Won't do it again - most of you guys are pretty nasty.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2008.01.04 05:08:00 - [21] Send him a bill for the rest of it Originally by: Tarminic Okay, that's it. You are on the KOS list, and you better pray that I don't have access to a locater agent.
Shadow Tycho IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2008.01.04 05:43:00 - [22] have fun with your free isk, its nice to see people who really care donate to the pirate community every once in a while. If your feeling guilty you could tell him oops and take it as a down payment on the ransom he now owes you for his pod.
Siriyana Astrum Contract Services Group	Posted - 2008.01.04 06:31:00 - [23] I don't do ransoms, but it seems to me you offered up a contractual deal whereby you would disengage the pilot and allow him to survive in exchange for the asking price of 25m. The pilot did not re-negotiate the contract to a lower amount, and simply gave you a lower amount. The amount given was roughly 72% of the original amount asked for. In this case, I would simply suggest that you engage him with only 28% of your weapons, as he has clearly paid enough for you to keep the other 72% offline. ----- CEO, Astrum Contract Services Group
Karyuudo Tydraad Caldari Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services The Acquisition	Posted - 2008.01.04 07:37:00 - [24] Pop + refund is how I operate on this sort of thing, but whatever.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2008.01.04 07:39:00 - [25] Originally by: Karyuudo Tydraad Pop + refund is how I operate on this sort of thing, but whatever. but it wasn't a full ransom
Feilamya Minmatar Against all Rules SOUL CARTEL	Posted - 2008.01.04 14:10:00 - [26] Originally by: Windjammer Whatever obligation you may feel yourself to be under is only valid if you are paid what you either asked for or agreed to accept. Since neither was the case here, you were within your "rights" to blow him up without refund whether you intended to blow him up or whether you did so by accident. If he wished to negotiate to 18 mil after being asked for 25 mil, he should have done so in conversation prior to sending you the isk. We could use a corp lawyer. Are you for hire? -- My wishlist to CCP: If it's not broken, don't break it. If it's broken, don't **** it up completely.
Don Z0LA Caldari TunDraGon	Posted - 2008.01.04 14:28:00 - [27] i would refund it with no doubt. maybe he needed 10 more secs to send money from 2nd acc, or to loan from friend, but he obviously show will to pay ransom. you cant be sure and say that he wouldnt pay 25, he already sent you 18, maybe he would send you 7 more. maybe he wouldnt, but you dont know that. you blew him up becouse of your mistake. therefore, pay for your mistake :)
Atomos Darksun Havoc Inc Blood Blind	Posted - 2008.01.04 23:50:00 - [28] Originally by: Don Z0LA i would refund it with no doubt. maybe he needed 10 more secs to send money from 2nd acc, or to loan from friend, but he obviously show will to pay ransom. you cant be sure and say that he wouldnt pay 25, he already sent you 18, maybe he would send you 7 more. maybe he wouldnt, but you dont know that. you blew him up becouse of your mistake. therefore, pay for your mistake :) What are you a sissy pirate? ----- They've gone to PLAID!!
Bardi MecAuldnis Amarr Sp00t	Posted - 2008.01.05 00:06:00 - [29] Originally by: Redbad Crazy stuff man. I think I'd pay him back after a convo. If he's a smacktard in that convo, I would be inclined to take option B though. RB I'm with him on this. Normally, if he wanted to negotiate on a lower price I didn't agree to and just decided to pay the low price, I'd keep it. If I blew him up because of a "sensor malfunction", I think a convo is in order. If he's a tard, it's a donation (or an FCC fine). If he's cool about it, I'd probably give it back (depends on age of character, relation to freighter pilot, amount vs equipment lost, cannot be combined with other offers, while supplies last, no rainchecks, no substitutions or exchanges, void where prohibited). --- Amarr/Caldari, and proud of it. Hey hey let's go kenka suru! Taisetsuna mono protect my balls! Boku ga warui so lets fighting! LET'S FIGHTING LOVE!!!

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