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Tenbucks
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Posted - 2004.03.19 01:58:00 -
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without anyone seeing you, killing you, podding you?
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.03.19 02:01:00 -
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Just take a peek at the map or scout with an alt. Is that so hard? Oh, I forgot, most people in battleships are newbies that have only mined scordite in 0.5+ since retail.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Lysender
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Posted - 2004.03.19 02:11:00 -
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Edited by: Lysender on 19/03/2004 02:15:25
Edited by: Lysender on 19/03/2004 02:14:24
It's tough. If the pirate don't get you the Player owned Regions will. Oh and if you're caught mining in those regions and your not apart of any corperations that are part owners of that space. You'll be shot down and sometimes podded. Just because you own a hunting pass doesn't mean you're aloud to mine in those regions. Just a warning.
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Fuujin
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Posted - 2004.03.19 02:18:00 -
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Haven't tried mining but getting in and out of 0.0 space really isn't difficult provided you keep an eye open.
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Lansfear
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Posted - 2004.03.19 02:20:00 -
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Edited by: Lansfear on 19/03/2004 02:21:24
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Haven't tried mining but getting in and out of 0.0 space really isn't difficult provided you keep an eye open.
What she sayed.
Also equipe a few safety messures and you will be fine.
p.s. not a great idea to equip your best gear unless you know what youre doing.
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Fuujin
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Posted - 2004.03.19 02:23:00 -
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and by haven't tried mining i mean solo, i've done group ops in low sec space before.
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Tenbucks
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Posted - 2004.03.19 02:26:00 -
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Thanks.. responses are helping me get an Idea. I still do not have enough skill for BS. I have onlyh been playing for about a month now. Have not even exceded 10 mil at one time yet. I have a crusier, pretty sweet mining op going and a couple research bp's going for manufactring, since that is what I started as. Been slacking in learningn in the war department of things. That kinda sucks that I cannot go mine a bunch just to get a nice little boost in isk. Kinda tough starting out. Reallyh have to be dedicated at first to make anything. I will stop rambling.. Thanks for the replys and keep em coming if you guys think of anything else.
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Waagaa Ktlehr
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Posted - 2004.03.19 11:47:00 -
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Try CFS space, if I remember correctly they are "open" space.
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Araviel
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Posted - 2004.03.19 12:22:00 -
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Try CFS space, if I remember correctly they are "open" space.
yeah, you can come to cfs space, but however you need to be carefull, currently there is a war going on between us and ca, and it is easy to get stuck in the crossfire
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Fester Addams
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Posted - 2004.03.19 13:23:00 -
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Once out in 0.0 space you are fairly safe, by keeping an eye on local you know if you are in any danger and if you are careful and start hiding as soon as the enimy arives you should not have any troubble there.
As for going into or geting out of 0.0 space, this is the dangerous bit, jumping from one system to the next is always dangerous, despite keeping a close eye on the map you can run into blocades as the map updates only so often.
This however can be remedied by choosing when you travel wisely. No alliance has 24-7 blockades. If you gather some info beforehand (and by that I meen look at the map) you can usually figure out when a specific path out into 0.0 is not guarded. A good thing is also to look at the number of players online (eve-i has such information).
Usually most paths out into 0.0 are safe between 2 and 10 AM gametime, back when I spent almost all my time 20+ jumps out in 0.0 I always made sure to get up an hour earlier and fly in if I had to do that.
In short, If you take a little time exploring the dos and donts you will find its in reality not all that hard to play in 0.0 space despite alliances, however an important note, always make sure you are far away from where people frequent, on the rim most every field has decent spawns and good ore, pick one that is out of the way as ods are an alliance fleet will not be bothered to fly a 10 jump round trip to hunt a single pilotthey know is redy if they do come. They will however always spend a few minutes hunting you if they happen to pass by.
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Kovak
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Posted - 2004.03.19 14:46:00 -
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There are large swathes of nominally alliance controlled space which you can sneak in and out off. It's generally best to avoid the main contention points where two alliances meet, especially around stain and curse. To be honest I've been drifting around a certain area of alliance claimed space which is pretty much deserted, and it has several abandoned stations with decent minerals nearby. A reasonably clever corp could quite happily sneak in, take a station and spend half a day mining before anyone found out.
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Estios
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Posted - 2004.03.19 15:07:00 -
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Edited by: Estios on 19/03/2004 15:08:18
Yeah you might wanna check the map before jumping into A2 eh Araviel. 
Oh and thanks for the bounty, I feel like a real life pirate hunter now. That 20000 isk might buy me half a can of quafe but free stuff always tastes better.
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Tinwhistle
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Posted - 2004.03.19 15:14:00 -
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As others have pointed out, you got to study the map and pick the correct time. That's not all of course:
- Study the map and keep in mind that it does not update very often.
- Look at the map and develop some intuition - where would you wait for someone to kill him?
- Do not insist of going to a specific region. If all you want is to get out to 0 sec to hunt or mine a little, make your destination a matter of the day.
- Be prepared to stay out there (i.e. log) if the way back is blocked.
- Plan your actions before jumping through a gate. If you jump into a system, check local before you move, so you stay cloaked. If you see people in the system that might be trouble, use the system map (F11) to warp to a location "out of the way" and approach your next gate from an uncommon direction. That can make you drop out of warp outside their warp scrambler range, since they are expecting you to come from a different direction.
- If you expect a blockade on a gate leading out of the system, it may be wise to approach at 60km first (in addition to the above point), so you have a chance to warp away. Bad luck if they anticipate that move of yours though. :-)
- Be quick in your decisions. People on a blockade will notice you as soon as you enter a system and gather information on you. The more time you give them, the better they will be prepared for you.
- Remember that in 0 sec space, you usually do not take a sec hit for attacking someone. So while most "pirates" have a negative sec rating, you will sometimes find some with a positive one. So, while a negative sec rating is almost a guarantee for trouble, a positive one is not a guarantee that you will be left alone.
- Despite all those measures, at one point in time someone will destroy your ship and probably pod you. So insure your ship and do not take anything with you that you are not prepared to lose!
I am sure I forgot a great deal of things (some of them on purpose ;)), but this should get you started.
You can always contact me in game for advice. I may not always stand on the "right side of the law", but I stay true to my word. I will not lie.
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.03.19 15:21:00 -
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its realy not hard. i think the problem of most mining corporations is that they think that making a huge-ass blob on the map with dozens of secure containers floating in space and indies going in and out is a way to mine high-end ore. guess what, its not. when mining corporations become mobile, have only their "elite" members go in and ninja-mine the high-end stuff without being spotted, then they will witness their profits go over 1000%(100% being the profits of strip-mining noob systems and loosing a few battleships in 0.0 to NPCs/PKs)
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Fluid
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Posted - 2004.03.19 15:33:00 -
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came back after 8 months away from game, was down in far out fountain region, thought i'd mess about to see whats changed, warped to a belt in my old thorax, got ****** over by pirates, lost it, got in my old merlin, loaded up some cargo i could carry and moved to empire space quickly :x 47 jumps to amarr from where i was and never saw a single player so it seems pretty easy :)
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Jazzatola
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Posted - 2004.03.19 15:34:00 -
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Edited by: Jazzatola on 19/03/2004 15:36:39
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without anyone seeing you, killing you, podding you?
Well, 0.0 space is so sparsely populated that in most systems you'll stick out like a sore thumb. A big fat yellow blob in an otherwise empty area of the map.
Of course the flipside of this is that you can also spot where potential pirate hotspots are.
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Silverlancer
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Posted - 2004.03.19 17:15:00 -
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Its surprisingly easy if you know where to go. The path to Period Basis is so sparsely populated that in 10+ runs I've never seen a pirate in anything larger than an interceptor...
Plus in O8S-39 you can earn billions mining bistot  . And refine it 4 gates away.
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Xertas
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Posted - 2004.03.19 18:52:00 -
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Try CFS space, if I remember correctly they are "open" space.
yeah, you can come to cfs space, but however you need to be carefull, currently there is a war going on between us and ca, and it is easy to get stuck in the crossfire
U can usually cruise around in CFS space pretty easily but BEWARE of Gehi. It's a choke point coming out from Khanid and Burning Eden camps it pretty regularly. They got me the other night. They had like 4 or 5 BB setup for long range. Sniping outside of Sent range.
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Galaxion
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Posted - 2004.03.19 19:41:00 -
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Sorry, but... CFS Space?
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Ruindar
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Posted - 2004.03.19 21:23:00 -
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Edited by: Ruindar on 19/03/2004 21:23:56
I am no expert but, I have found that bringing 3-6 BS equipped to fight for cover really makes your life a lot easier in 0.0. Even most small corps should be able to field this kind of protective force. The gate gankers get a taste of their own medicine (the few I know are typically cowards anyway unless they have overwhelming odds in their favor).
From my limited experiences with the real alliances, as long as you are not going out of your way to talk smack and be stupid, they don't mess with small corps coming to mine. They would much rather beat on the other alliances they have fueds with (or the guys talking smack and being jerks). So, they are probably not going to field a half dozen BS to come make your life miserable unless you give them a reason (assuming they realize you are there at all). If they do cause you grief, you can cost them a pretty penny on the way out.
Of course, I have limited experience in 0.0 so, take this with a grain of salt.
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Archemedes
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Posted - 2004.03.20 00:50:00 -
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I usually go to CFS space and run away if anyone suspicious comes into the system (hey, I'm alone and rigged for NPCs... I'm NOT going toe to toe with a Raven or Tempest set up for PVP!). You can also go to Fountain to hunt if you pay them (1 mil per day) and be a bit safer from pirates, just watch the choke points going in and out.
If you don't have a battleship, you really have nothing to do in 0.0, since the spawns are too tough to kill off in a cruiser (at least if you want to finish them off to get the loot) and mining is more trouble than it's worth (you'll be running from NPCs more than you actually dig). But once you get a battleship there's lots of good hunting (mining needs several ships to really be effective)...
And if you're solo, you might want to try talking to the various alliances. You might find one willing to let you go mine in some out-of-the-way system that they never use anyway...
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shivan
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Posted - 2004.03.20 02:25:00 -
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i camp a gate from 0.0 to empire but only to stop the pirates camping it and killing people. if any1 wants to get into catch convo me and ill tell u if the way is clear
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