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Hardin Amarr Paisti Paisti Syndicate	Posted - 2008.01.04 10:45:00 - [1] Originally by: CVA Diplomat As everybody knows, the only reason CVA is holding back Tri is because of their allies. Fubar Fubar is that you? I am not quite so sure why the CVA/Tri war has brought out moronic alt posters in such numbers but I personally believe that they are all the work of some seriously bitter inividual (not Tri or CVA) with Attention Deficit Disorder issues and an interest in stirring the pot on Providence CVA as an alliance has ALWAYS had bitter enemies in the same way as we have also had loyal friends. Why do we have these friends? Because we spend a lot of our time helping others when they needed it. Sylph, Paxton, s3verance have all enjoyed CVA support, as has IAC to a lesser extent. Similarly the Amarrian loyalist para-military corps have also provided help and been provided with help at various times in our history. In addition a large proportion of 'neutrals' in Providence and low-sec domain owe the relative safety of their homes (albeit not so safe since Tri moved in) to the protection and anti-pirate activities of the CVA. Fact is Triumvirate are good at what they do. They are twice the size of CVA alone and their Cap fleet would make any Amarrian baby weep http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0801/ProvidenceFun.jpg CVA knows how to fight. I think we have clearly demonstrated that time and time again throughout our long history. But at the same time we are also pragmatists. Triumvirate pose a potent threat. Any alliance that can field +100 sniper fleets +50 caps + 5 motherships is not to be taken lightly and we would be stupid not to accept the help of friends and allies wishing to assist us against these nefarious invaders of Amarrian space I have the greatest respect for Tri. Indeed I would even say that many of their pilots are good chaps - Joeyfish and Lowa to name just two \o - however we will not let them destroy what we have built. Over three years ago CVA moved down to Providence to create an Amarrian paradise and to reclaim a chunk of 0.0 real estate on behalf of the Amarrian Empire. Over time 'Operation Deliverance' has slowly but steadily 'civilised' Providence creating one of the most welcoming regions of 0.0 for any neutral law abiding pilot. We have in that time faced many threats and many enemies. Ushra'khan, Star Fraction, The Short Bus Squad, Omniscient Order, KIA, Burn Eden, Cruel Intentions - to name just a few - have all posed problems of varying levels of intensity. Triumvirate are simply the latest in a long line of invaders seeking to disrupt our holy cause and while they are clearly a very very capable foe they will eventually fail because eventually all enemies of Amarr will fail We are Amarrian fanatics driven by a holy cause. My heart was armed on Wednesday night as wave after wave of CVA (and Sylph/Paxton) pilots, many flying not much more than Executioners, launched themselves at the Triumvirate fleet suicidally tackling sniper battleships for our POS guns to destroy. Neverthless despite their losses Triumvirate succeeded in knocking three of our POSes into reinforced and stand on the brink of capturing our original Outpost. But this is the second time they stand on this threshold. Just two weeks ago they reached a similar position but were successfully thwarted by the forces of good. Will they succeed this time? Only time will tell. It is certain that we will not be making it easy for them and if that means we use allied support then so be it. I don't think Triumvirate would expect otherwise. They did after all come to Providence for fights and that is what they will get... Amarr Victor ------------------------------
Mebrithiel Ju'wien Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.01.04 10:48:00 - [2] You forgot Blood Inq... </3 Personal Library
The Mittani GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.04 10:49:00 - [3] thats a lot of words in reply to arguably the least coherent alt poster out there i like you duders but you just got trolled and hard :((
EVIL SYNNs Minmatar The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.04 10:51:00 - [4] Nice post, cya in space O7 NO SIG REQURIED
Anton Marx Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.01.04 10:54:00 - [5] Long live the Amarr-Caldari Alliance! Death to the Gallente oppressors! Death to the Minmatar savages! Amarr Victor! - Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate - [UMCON]Anton Marx
Gutsani The Hoodie Mafia Cosa Nostra.	Posted - 2008.01.04 10:55:00 - [6] I think i actually proposed this CVA campaign while i was in Tri.. sure those posts are still somewhere on their forums. Still, i am sure the joining of Spartan Industries has something to do with it all aswell Anyway, that topic was about "getting fights", and even though i dont think that roadtrip has happened during my time in Tri, i proposed you guys because i knew you would fight, not fold. Seems i was right. Sig Locked. Moderator abuse.
Hardin Amarr Paisti Paisti Syndicate	Posted - 2008.01.04 10:56:00 - [7] Originally by: The Mittani thats a lot of words in reply to arguably the least coherent alt poster out there i like you duders but you just got trolled and hard :(( Oh I know... but it was a good excuse ------------------------------
Weeman Caldari Spartan Industries Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.04 11:00:00 - [8] You forgot Soul Cartel :( /me cries for Countessa
Myz Toyou Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.04 11:04:00 - [9] /roleplay mode on You will die horrible when we have bought of all cap booster from the market /roleplay mode off <3 Hardin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your signature image exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Exioce Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.04 11:08:00 - [10] Hardin, I have always found you to have the most ostentatious chin in EVE.
Hardin Amarr Paisti Paisti Syndicate	Posted - 2008.01.04 11:21:00 - [11] Originally by: Weeman You forgot Soul Cartel :( /me cries for Countessa Soooooo long ago And tbh as with Blood Inq above the list would go on and on and on ------------------------------
CVA Diplomat More Allies Plz	Posted - 2008.01.04 11:22:00 - [12] I did not expect to get such a serious response. i win i suppose. cva is in damage control mode? i am in a npc region pirate corp btw.
CVA Diplomat More Allies Plz	Posted - 2008.01.04 11:24:00 - [13] and mittani, you arn't involved in this war why don't you get out? oh wait, your usually sitting in a station no wonder u post so much.
Darknesss D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.04 11:29:00 - [14] As the aggressors, we have no right to complain about you bringing aid. After all we are not here for your stations, we are here for fights, and if you bringing help gets us those fights then we're happy you are doing it. Simple fact is, with IAC/Goons/-A- hanging about, all of which will probably be looking for/hoping for an opportunity to jump our capitals, we very well may not be able to make any progress with taking space from you. Some people will no doubt use this as an excuse to flame us, but we're just killing time down here. It has been interesting, and i must also note that this is the first time we have chosen an opponent a long way away from our home. This makes logistics harder, activity lower. CVA and friends have been a good tool to practise a long distance war against, and we are ever striving to imrpove ourselves.
Vyktor Abyss The Abyss Corporation Abyss Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.04 11:33:00 - [15] My T1 Catalyst of doom (and 4 identical ships) are ready for action later! Looking forward to it! Oh and about time we got a report Hardin - your forum skills of late appeared rusty!
Gaius Kador PIE Inc.	Posted - 2008.01.04 11:33:00 - [16] Soul Cartel, good old times.. Oh and you forgot Hooligans of War, first time we hit R3 ;) ----------------------------------------------
touchvill D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.04 11:33:00 - [17] Nice well written post and a refreshing change to see someone post who is involved in the conflict. It's pretty much been the same throughout the time we been down here. Respect (mostly) between Tri and CVA & friends and complete smack from trolling alts etc. As I said in last thread, CVA are well within their right to have assistance. Just because we at Tri have been keeping it just us in our attacks doesn't mean they have to. This is not a 1v1 because everyone knows that is a complete mismatch, however with their friends it is a very good opportunity to get top quality fights. Whilst our efficiency in the campaign is not great we have had a lot of kills. In December we destroyed a total of 821 battleships, 24 carriers, 2 dreadnoughts, 4 freighters and 4 rorquals. Oh and lets not forget 1054 industrials (yes we are the good guys fighting the macro problem). Of course CVA can not guarantee the safety of people in providence and surrounding area's but we have had a very eventful time down here despite people talking of us failing big time. Our kills since moving down here has raised a lot over what was already an impressive tally. That in itself is a call for celebration. I hope that the streak of kills will continue and hope that tonight the fights can eclipse them of 2 weeks ago. Very tough task I know, I would say though with the entities involved there is definitely an opportunity to make it happen. So good luck to all tonight, may your guns fire straight and hope that fun is had by all. ---------- dot the dot then dot the dot then all you have done is dotted two dots. Amazing no?
CVA Diplomat More Allies Plz	Posted - 2008.01.04 11:35:00 - [18] Darkness says it better than anyone. look forward to seeing some amarr wrecks in space \o/
Ace Frehley Minmatar Trinity Nova	Posted - 2008.01.04 11:44:00 - [19] Touchy, stop forumwhoring and come back to bed, everyone needs his Dr Love
Oli4Oli4 Viper Squad Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.04 11:45:00 - [20] Originally by: Hardin They did after all come to Providence for fights and that is what they will get... Yarrrrr
Lowa Gallente North Star Networks Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.04 11:47:00 - [21] Quote: 'Darkness is deaths ignorance, and the Devils time!' As usual we expect and look forward to stiff resistance if and when we come to take a look at that last POS and the 3 already in reinforced. The established groups living and working with CVA should prove to be a pretty equal force (number wise at least) as we have seen large numbers mass before, the question here is if the confidence in their abilities is high enough to stop there or if we will see other players entering the field. I personally really dont care which, I think the usual residents would be troublesome enough but I know their are more than one way to see things. But what I really hope is that what ever goes down will go down playable and not in the absolute node-burning crap that has been TPAR of late. So grab your delusional books, your twisted minds of sectarian thought and lets face the eternal fires together! Regards, Lowa <3 Hardin! What if the truth was something else?
touchvill D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.04 11:53:00 - [22] Originally by: Ace Frehley Touchy, stop forumwhoring and come back to bed, everyone needs his Dr Love Now now, don't get touchy with me or I will opt against hiring you to do my mining in Deklein! ---------- dot the dot then dot the dot then all you have done is dotted two dots. Amazing no?
Kebabski Minmatar Yiotul Fighters Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.01.04 11:54:00 - [23] Edited by: Kebabski on 04/01/2008 11:54:10 You trying to roleplay? CVA lost it's RP long time ago. And certainly lost all their relationships in U'K. As in finding you a worthy opponent. Well i hope TRI does well. Hope you have some good fights. But please don't act like CVA is a RP alliance, cause it isn't that anymore for a long time now. Keb
Skogul Minmatar The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.04 12:00:00 - [24] Edited by: Skogul on 04/01/2008 12:01:10 All Amarrian's will be crushed. This 'Holy Cause' you say, we will make sure you die for your cause. The Empire must fall.
Ace Frehley Minmatar Trinity Nova	Posted - 2008.01.04 12:01:00 - [25] Originally by: touchvill Originally by: Ace Frehley Touchy, stop forumwhoring and come back to bed, everyone needs his Dr Love Now now, don't get touchy with me or I will opt against hiring you to do my mining in Deklein! hugs and kisses
CVA Diplomat More Allies Plz	Posted - 2008.01.04 12:02:00 - [26] i don't like making predictions, but some POS's are going down.
Will Hunter GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.04 12:35:00 - [27] Originally by: CVA Diplomat i don't like making predictions, but some POS's are going down. much like my iq, while reading your post:cripes:
Jain Za Naughty 40 Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.04 12:41:00 - [28] Lets have a good clean fight.
Gaius Kador PIE Inc.	Posted - 2008.01.04 12:53:00 - [29] Originally by: Kebabski Edited by: Kebabski on 04/01/2008 11:54:10 You trying to roleplay? CVA lost it's RP long time ago. And certainly lost all their relationships in U'K. As in finding you a worthy opponent. Well i hope TRI does well. Hope you have some good fights. But please don't act like CVA is a RP alliance, cause it isn't that anymore for a long time now. Keb Show some of that class I have come to expect from the U'K, this is just drivel. ----------------------------------------------
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.04 13:00:00 - [30] it's gonna be a long, long night Originally by: ISD Cortes You're at liberty to use the rolling sig you had, as long as there's no chimeras covering the nether regions of voluptuous females.
Barthezz Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.04 13:03:00 - [31] If I wasnt Minmatar I'd shout: Amarr Victor Tri is getting what they set out to get. The resistance that CVA (and friends) is putting up is exactly what Tri wanted. Sadly enough I'm going on vacation for a week so I wont know for a while how the battle progresses, but I'm sure it'll be an intresting week. --- Dont be a victim of what I do to survive!
Oosel Nightmare Holdings Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.04 13:04:00 - [32] things were so much easier when we lived in daran all those years ago eh hardin even your sister had a fun time then
MAXSuicide Cosmic Fusion When Fat Kids Attack	Posted - 2008.01.04 13:12:00 - [33] thought tri were only fighting cva for some fights? not pos wars? guess their pride got damaged a bit too much by some roleplayers...
touchvill D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.04 13:13:00 - [34] Originally by: MAXSuicide thought tri were only fighting cva for some fights? not pos wars? guess their pride got damaged a bit too much by some roleplayers... We have been fighting pos wars from the start. It's our way to get fights and it works. ---------- dot the dot then dot the dot then all you have done is dotted two dots. Amazing no?
tantaluss	Posted - 2008.01.04 13:18:00 - [35] its friday night guys lets have fun yarrrrrrr
Deva Blackfire D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.04 13:25:00 - [36] Originally by: MAXSuicide thought tri were only fighting cva for some fights? not pos wars? guess their pride got damaged a bit too much by some roleplayers... Then work your magic and ask nicely CVA to actually engage outside of pos defence. Coz except for that i saw maybe 2 good fights.
Anton March Mortis Angelus The Church.	Posted - 2008.01.04 13:31:00 - [37] I've fought Tri and CVA and they are both top quality opponents, and both can put together some impressive fleets. Best of luck to both sides.
Martin Mckenna D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.04 13:36:00 - [38] wait. are we actualy starting this campaign now? is it worth logging in are we doing stuff apart from roaming? that was a bumer that pos broke just as we come down here. (serious question) ---------------------------------------------
Kalissa D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.04 13:38:00 - [39] Originally by: MAXSuicide thought tri were only fighting cva for some fights? not pos wars? guess their pride got damaged a bit too much by some roleplayers... Wow, you're a real brainbox arent you? Well obviously you fall into the 1% of people who arent intelligent enough to understand so I'll explain, now....listen....carefully.... If you want people to commit resources and take chances and therefore potentially get good fights you have to give them something to fight for. CVA know as it stands if they do nothing we will destroy their towers, take the station and in 7 days their constellational capital will be open to attack by us. It's a hell of an incentive to fight. Looking forward to this.
Kalissa D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.04 13:39:00 - [40] Originally by: Martin Mckenna Edited by: Martin Mckenna on 04/01/2008 13:37:16 wait. are we actualy starting this campaign now? is it worth logging in are we doing stuff apart from roaming? that was a bumer that pos broke just as we come down here. (serious question) oh yea and i lost ts details if someoen can get ammargal to msn them to me it would be great. Stop playing WoW Martin and get your backside where it belongs!
CVA Diplomat More Allies Plz	Posted - 2008.01.04 13:45:00 - [41] Originally by: Kalissa Originally by: MAXSuicide thought tri were only fighting cva for some fights? not pos wars? guess their pride got damaged a bit too much by some roleplayers... Wow, you're a real brainbox arent you? Well obviously you fall into the 1% of people who arent intelligent enough to understand so I'll explain, now....listen....carefully.... If you want people to commit resources and take chances and therefore potentially get good fights you have to give them something to fight for. CVA know as it stands if they do nothing we will destroy their towers, take the station and in 7 days their constellational capital will be open to attack by us. It's a hell of an incentive to fight. Looking forward to this. I just hope the servers don't crap with the blobbage that seems to always save CVA. No need to defend your space when someone else will do it for you. Fair fights are so hard to come by.
Hardin Amarr Paisti Paisti Syndicate	Posted - 2008.01.04 13:49:00 - [42] Originally by: Gaius Kador Soul Cartel, good old times.. Oh and you forgot Hooligans of War, first time we hit R3 ;) Oh happy days ------------------------------
Wesley Baird Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2008.01.04 14:28:00 - [43] The South sure sounds like fun....hmmmmmm.....
Aypse D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.04 14:40:00 - [44] Originally by: CVA Diplomat I just hope the servers don't crap with the blobbage that seems to always save CVA. No need to defend your space when someone else will do it for you. Fair fights are so hard to come by. Post with your main, otherwise you are just a sad little troll. Originally by: Oveur Eve is primarily a PVP game and hence our focus is on making that experience balanced.
acompton Dragons Of Redemption Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.04 14:55:00 - [45] Hey, how come Evil Thug keeps asking about the tower situation in X-R over in SHC? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ All the cool kids have Mickey Mouse ears....
Weeman Caldari Spartan Industries Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.04 14:59:00 - [46] Originally by: Hardin Originally by: Gaius Kador Soul Cartel, good old times.. Oh and you forgot Hooligans of War, first time we hit R3 ;) Oh happy days Indeed, back when EVE was a good game :( Max - stop stirring, only way to get good fleet battles now is to put pos's into reinforced. Noob!
Hardin Amarr Paisti Paisti Syndicate	Posted - 2008.01.04 15:04:00 - [47] Who can guess why Evil Thug does what he does All I know is that when he asks a question I hear a voice in my ear shouting 'Tell him, tell him now or all the children will die' ------------------------------
Snodgey2004 Mega Modal M0nkeys Derek Knows Us	Posted - 2008.01.04 15:06:00 - [48] No love for MODAL? weeps I jest Good Luck in your ongoing adventure though , whats the saying ? " the enemy of my enemy is my friend " or something cack like that , CVA are more fun to fight personally cos' least you let me go bout my business and don't kill me as much , more npcing these days than killing but when am ready to return I'd rather have CVA still there to spar with than the 50man Tri nano-gangs...
Kakali	Posted - 2008.01.04 15:10:00 - [49] Edited by: Kakali on 04/01/2008 15:10:20
Kakali	Posted - 2008.01.04 15:12:00 - [50] Edited by: Kakali on 04/01/2008 15:12:08
Rustok Hooligans Of War Insurgency	Posted - 2008.01.04 15:56:00 - [51] ill come back one day and camp R3 again fun times took me 3 attempts to find "default character" sry with the posts above
Major PewPew Dragons Of Redemption Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.04 16:26:00 - [52] Originally by: MAXSuicide thought tri were only fighting cva for some fights? not pos wars? guess their pride got damaged a bit too much by some roleplayers... have you ever fought CVA? only way to get them out is to shoot their POS's
Patso Tappaja Paisti Paisti Syndicate	Posted - 2008.01.04 16:38:00 - [53] FOR TEH EMPEROR. BOOST AMARR. WE ARE ANTI-PIR... wait wut? This Sig doesnt lack eve-online material THIS time.
Boom ChickaBoom Caldari Friendly Pod Poppers	Posted - 2008.01.04 17:10:00 - [54] This looks like fun and all for everyone.. but if you guys were realy looking for a fight you would go a few jumps south and war dec AAA and shoot there pos's. I sure you will get all the pvp action you ever wanted if you do that.
Sinia Shadow Council	Posted - 2008.01.04 17:18:00 - [55] Originally by: Major PewPew Originally by: MAXSuicide thought tri were only fighting cva for some fights? not pos wars? guess their pride got damaged a bit too much by some roleplayers... have you ever fought CVA? only way to get them out is to shoot their POS's Several good fights were had, then you started dropping several moms on every fight in low sec. Can't really blame them for getting bored of that.
Anton March Mortis Angelus The Church.	Posted - 2008.01.04 17:23:00 - [56] Originally by: Major PewPew have you ever fought CVA? only way to get them out is to shoot their POS's Odd. When I was fighting CVA, you so much as flew a cruiser through their space and you could expect a 30+ man gang with capital support in a matter of a couple minutes.
Major PewPew Dragons Of Redemption Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.04 17:34:00 - [57] Originally by: Anton March Originally by: Major PewPew have you ever fought CVA? only way to get them out is to shoot their POS's Odd. When I was fighting CVA, you so much as flew a cruiser through their space and you could expect a 30+ man gang with capital support in a matter of a couple minutes. were they ever NRDS? if so, then I stand corrected on the whole "shoot pos = PvP" statement. btw, my post isnt a an intended jab at CVA, you guys are good at what you do, and proving to be incredibly formidable adversaries. Much love to you guys for bringing the numbers when we bring ours. Look forward to more fights from you guys, it's been nothing short of fun thus far.
Anton March Mortis Angelus The Church.	Posted - 2008.01.04 17:36:00 - [58] Originally by: Major PewPew were they ever NRDS? if so, then I stand corrected on the whole "shoot pos = PvP" statement. btw, my post isnt a an intended jab at CVA, you guys are good at what you do, and proving to be incredibly formidable adversaries. Much love to you guys for bringing the numbers when we bring ours. Look forward to more fights from you guys, it's been nothing short of fun thus far. They're always NRDS, as far as I know... and I've pretty much always been red to them :)
Janu Hull Caldari Terra Incognita Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2008.01.04 17:45:00 - [59] Originally by: Anton March Originally by: Major PewPew were they ever NRDS? if so, then I stand corrected on the whole "shoot pos = PvP" statement. btw, my post isnt a an intended jab at CVA, you guys are good at what you do, and proving to be incredibly formidable adversaries. Much love to you guys for bringing the numbers when we bring ours. Look forward to more fights from you guys, it's been nothing short of fun thus far. They're always NRDS, as far as I know... and I've pretty much always been red to them :) They gauge their response based on the perceived threat. Some people get the heavy end of the hammer, some people warrant nothing more than a traffic advisory on the intel channel.
Fitz VonHeise The New Order. United Connection's	Posted - 2008.01.04 17:48:00 - [60] Originally by: Hardin We are Amarrian fanatics driven by a holy cause. Go Hardin and CVA! Services I Provide: Caldari Factional Standing Increase ò Alliance Creation ò The Thieves Of EvE ò My Links
Anton March Mortis Angelus The Church.	Posted - 2008.01.04 18:02:00 - [61] Originally by: Janu Hull They gauge their response based on the perceived threat. Some people get the heavy end of the hammer, some people warrant nothing more than a traffic advisory on the intel channel. Ahh. Well.. I might have been in uh... ushra'khan.. at the time, so I can see why they were opting to use the hammer :)
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.04 18:32:00 - [62] Edited by: Garreck on 04/01/2008 18:33:28 To address the "getting fights out of CVA" thing; we're simply not a pvp alliance in the same vein as TRI...I'd actually argue we're not a pvp alliance at all, just an alliance with a core of good pvp-ers. We can't field fleets on short notice to counter 30-50man nano fleets properly. Rather than feed an enemy kills, we keep awareness of hostile locations so that such fleets can, yes, be avoided. Tower defense, sovereignty defense...that's a different matter. TRI is absolutely doing the right thing to get large fleet battles out of CVA: threaten our assets. Best way to get all of our non-pvper (but certainly combat capable) pilots to drop everything and fight. And yes, I would just like to confess that the defining moment of this war...the pinnacle of over 1 month's fighting and about 2000 kills between CVA and TRI (not to mention TRI's other conflicts in the South)...the only reason CVA has survived all of this so far... ...is the presence of a couple dozen Goons and IAC for about half an hour one morning of the war. My thanks to Goons and IAC of course, but I hope the point is clear enough on that account.
Disunity Gallente Royal Regiment of Wales	Posted - 2008.01.04 20:11:00 - [63] Good luck and have fun both sides. No disrepect to TRI but Ive chosen CVA + friends to support in this war due to their noob friendly approach to space, plus its a British thing; always support the underdog unless their a pillock. Reason for posting: Has there been a status change in CVA space? If my sorry nub harris enters CVA space will it be hunted down by both sides + pirates or just TRI + pirates? Inveniam viam aut faciam.
Rohgue Trayda Minmatar Spartan Industries Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.04 20:19:00 - [64] Death to the Amarr Oppressors!
Solusar Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.04 20:23:00 - [65] Originally by: Disunity Good luck and have fun both sides. No disrepect to TRI but Ive chosen CVA + friends to support in this war due to their noob friendly approach to space, plus its a British thing; always support the underdog unless their a pillock. Reason for posting: Has there been a status change in CVA space? If my sorry nub harris enters CVA space will it be hunted down by both sides + pirates or just TRI + pirates? CVA still operate NRDS.
Deva Blackfire D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.04 20:25:00 - [66] Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 04/01/2008 20:24:52 Originally by: Garreck /snip/ Wow. Someone had actually balls to say that?
Disunity Gallente Royal Regiment of Wales	Posted - 2008.01.04 20:38:00 - [67] Originally by: CVA Diplomat I did not expect to get such a serious response. i win i suppose. cva is in damage control mode? i am in a npc region pirate corp btw. Dude, you and the others alt trolls really need to put some effort into your obsession in life. From the looks of things all youÆve managed to do so far is provoke public respect between ôenemiesö. You would have done more damage to CVA if you hadnÆt posted all. This one is a bit rough, but its free: Senior members of CBA hike up their skirts and flee in terror of the overpowering might of TIR. Sorry TRI / CVA but I read a lot before joining EvE and I thought it was full of meta-gamers, spy masters and propaganda ministers and all I see is halfwits, pillocks and racists. Inveniam viam aut faciam.
Janu Hull Caldari Terra Incognita Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2008.01.04 21:00:00 - [68] Originally by: Deva Blackfire Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 04/01/2008 20:24:52 Originally by: Garreck /snip/ Wow. Someone had actually balls to say that? CVA is quite an exceptional organization among alliances. They're not ones to make their reputation off of ego. Its that attitude that drives them to be the kind of opposition you were looking for when you went on this little roadtrip.
Solcypher Spartan Industries Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.04 21:27:00 - [69] Originally by: Garreck Quality post This is a great example of why CVA are fun to fight. No bull****, almost 0 smack, and (seem to be) enjoying the fights as much as we are. We want to fight, they give a good one. What else can you ask for?
Phrixus Zephyr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.04 21:33:00 - [70] Originally by: Disunity Originally by: CVA Diplomat Alt junk Reply. You see everyone, i have the COAD filter and Mr Diplomat was filtered as soon as i saw his name and corp, so i don't have to read any of his junk. I suggest you all do the same.
Kery Syander The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.04 21:43:00 - [71] <3 CVA, especially Hardin... But I will enjoy playing with your corpses I just have to laugh at the cowards who are posting here. Terrified of letting people know your internet spaceship name? Anyway, best of luck CVA and gang. See you in space. -----
Martin Mckenna D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.04 21:47:00 - [72] Originally by: Kalissa Stop playing WoW Martin and get your backside where it belongs! How the **** did you know! ---------------------------------------------
Disunity Gallente Royal Regiment of Wales	Posted - 2008.01.04 21:47:00 - [73] Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr I suggest you all do the same. Good advise, but that wasn't really directed at one sorry muppet. Anyway, Im on my way, so less talk carebear... more buying windscreen wipers for when I splatter like a bug! If I dont die to npcs on the way, someone give me some tips after you loot me. Cheers Solusar, doubt I be abusing your space for long. Mandatory Yarr! Inveniam viam aut faciam.
Vyktor Abyss The Abyss Corporation Abyss Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.04 23:22:00 - [74] Beer number 6... Tension mounting... Did I buy enough beers... (14?)
Tonkin D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.04 23:31:00 - [75] getting soooo bored down here sooooo bored falling asleep
touchvill D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.04 23:34:00 - [76] Originally by: Disunity Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr I suggest you all do the same. Good advise, but that wasn't really directed at one sorry muppet. Anyway, Im on my way, so less talk carebear... more buying windscreen wipers for when I splatter like a bug! If I dont die to npcs on the way, someone give me some tips after you loot me. Cheers Solusar, doubt I be abusing your space for long. Mandatory Yarr! Did you enjoy your visit lol? ---------- dot the dot then dot the dot then all you have done is dotted two dots. Amazing no?
Oli4Oli4 Viper Squad Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.04 23:35:00 - [77] Originally by: Vyktor Abyss Beer number 6... Beer number 7... O **** need to get a new sixpack but dont want to stop chatting in local :(
joefishy Spartan Industries Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.04 23:39:00 - [78] YOU SPEALT MY NAME WRONG !!!!! Luls Much love hardin hope we have some good fights and fun.. May the best blob win :) xxxx :)
Rawstyle Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.01.04 23:49:00 - [79] Originally by: Skogul Edited by: Skogul on 04/01/2008 12:01:10 All Amarrian's will be crushed. This 'Holy Cause' you say, we will make sure you die for your cause. The Empire must fall. OMG a mackam, roleplaying, you sir will never live this down. Also you suck, you massive northern sell out :P <3
Kladdkaka Caldari North Star Networks Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.04 23:58:00 - [80] We are still looking fore some kladdkaka and Lowa are soon close to find it. This will be a massive blow to CVA, Tri will go home after we do find it down south but still Lowa is a bit drunk so we need some time to find it.
Vyktor Abyss The Abyss Corporation Abyss Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.05 00:09:00 - [81] It is at times like this I miss UK... No offense to TRI, but the local chat is all coming from TRI and it seems and is focused on Chuck Norris, Farmyard animals, Lubricant, and Eve-TV among other things... -Yes a very amusing episode of Eve-TV that would make, and amusing enough to read while we wait... BUT... Hard to say this <emotionally> on my 8th beer (tension now unbearable by the way - I really might run out!) but I miss the raving rants by some of the respective UK and CVA specialists in delivering their sermons and doctrines across local at times like these... What ever happened to "The problem with the Gallente" sermons and other such stuff to keep us amused? Nowadays it is CVA & friends showing their discipline/maturity by not talking on local at all. Entertain me!
touchvill D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 00:11:00 - [82] Originally by: Vyktor Abyss It is at times like this I miss UK... No offense to TRI, but the local chat is all coming from TRI and it seems and is focused on Chuck Norris, Farmyard animals, Lubricant, and Eve-TV among other things... -Yes a very amusing episode of Eve-TV that would make, and amusing enough to read while we wait... BUT... Hard to say this <emotionally> on my 8th beer (tension now unbearable by the way - I really might run out!) but I miss the raving rants by some of the respective UK and CVA specialists in delivering their sermons and doctrines across local at times like these... What ever happened to "The problem with the Gallente" sermons and other such stuff to keep us amused? Nowadays it is CVA & friends showing their discipline/maturity by not talking on local at all. Entertain me! The night is young there are plenty more discussions about plenty more subjects to come. ---------- dot the dot then dot the dot then all you have done is dotted two dots. Amazing no?
Admiral Kladdkaka Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2008.01.05 00:12:00 - [83] My bag in box of kladdkaka yummyness wine is starting to run out so yes im sade right now.
Disunity Gallente Royal Regiment of Wales	Posted - 2008.01.05 00:21:00 - [84] Originally by: touchvill Did you enjoy your visit lol? Harsh I did, but I want the name of the nasty person that pod killed me. First time outside of empire and EvE delievered. Took me awhile to get there because I decided to swap the Salvagers for guns. Tried to get a jump clone to save the +4 thingies but the Amarr Corp said they didnt like me. I'm gonna complain to CVA, obviously someone was left out of the loop. Then since I'd just got Small 5 I thought sod it, I'll get some T2 Small Hybrids and some special ammo. After having a natter with some pirates and seeing a few TRI CovOps fly by whilst I was hiding, I started to think it might be possible to take someone with me, the glory! Jump, ah **, splat. Was there anything I should of done to get out of that gate camp alive? My mind was racing ploting your ships but I couldnt see an open door. My PC seemed to crashed out after being pod killed, could of just be load lag from moving between server nodes quite rapidly tho . I could see everything (which was pretty cool) but after flying past my wreck a couple of times I logged. Im gonna have to die a few more times to debug this but did anybody see my chat after ah **? Inveniam viam aut faciam.
Tonkin D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 00:23:00 - [85] pls cva come play with us?
Martin Mckenna D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 00:42:00 - [86] Originally by: Tonkin pls cva come play with us? u r not k0ol ---------------------------------------------
Tonkin D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 00:44:00 - [87] CCP REINFORCE THE FECKING NODE!!! FFS
touchvill D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 00:47:00 - [88] Originally by: Saraith Narr Originally by: Tonkin CCP REINFORCE THE FECKING NODE!!! FFS True dat. Spent five minutes slowly drifting towards a huge cloud of Tri ships, completely unable to move my ship. I think I may be dead when I can login again :P Yeah you died, one of the only ones who did though it seems. Half our gang never loaded the grid let alone got to fire :( ---------- dot the dot then dot the dot then all you have done is dotted two dots. Amazing no?
Tonkin D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 00:48:00 - [89] takes the p!ss this
Tonkin D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 00:50:00 - [90] Originally by: touchvill Originally by: Saraith Narr Originally by: Tonkin CCP REINFORCE THE FECKING NODE!!! FFS True dat. Spent five minutes slowly drifting towards a huge cloud of Tri ships, completely unable to move my ship. I think I may be dead when I can login again :P Yeah you died, one of the only ones who did though it seems. Half our gang never loaded the grid let alone got to fire :( i locked a target then i warp off, with my rails guns saying the target is too far away when i get to a ss
Saraith Narr Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2008.01.05 00:54:00 - [91] Edited by: Saraith Narr on 05/01/2008 00:54:27 Lol, at least you could move :P lol internets killed me.... Thats two Executioners you owe me Tri! Damn you!!!!
Mik kyo D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 00:55:00 - [92] Could have been a good fight... instead we never loaded grid.
Lowa Gallente North Star Networks Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 01:04:00 - [93] Ok, I know, its been said before but seriously: This needs to be fixed. I dont give a rats fking ass about Blackops doing insignificant damage to newbs in high sec then Cynoing out compared to the huge damage to the PvP player base experience with the absolutely horrible server performace that exists right now. This is not what we all pay for. It is as simple as that. And no. You cant have my stuff. Regards, Lowa What if the truth was something else?
Disunity Gallente Royal Regiment of Wales	Posted - 2008.01.05 01:05:00 - [94] Originally by: Saraith Narr Originally by: Tonkin CCP REINFORCE THE FECKING NODE!!! FFS True dat. Spent five minutes slowly drifting towards a huge cloud of Tri ships, completely unable to move my ship. I think I may be dead when I can login again :P ouch, hoped it was my PC (well memory conflict anyway) because Im bored of paying to beta testing bad code ... not going to ***** and whinge but how many players in one solar system can this game cope with? I wont state the number of players I saw because you still might see action. Inveniam viam aut faciam.
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 01:17:00 - [95] Way to go, CCP. Originally by: ISD Cortes You're at liberty to use the rolling sig you had, as long as there's no chimeras covering the nether regions of voluptuous females.
Zemi Dahut GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.05 01:19:00 - [96] Welcome to the South
MuadChef D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 01:22:00 - [97] POS Warfare in Eve is a constant loosing situation, inherently ruining the experience for the players involved. Its always lagged, as player base grows so does lag. Biggest killer in all engagements is a Control Tower.... Lag 1 - PVP'ers 0
XxAngelxX Amarr The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 01:22:00 - [98] We looked for a target who were capable, had numbers to match, weren't involved so much in blob warfare and somewhere where we thought lag wouldn't ruin our idea of fun. Call us idealists, we just had a very realistic experience and that will be us vs CVA done I think. CVA could have fought us on the gate, us jumping into their 20+ caps plus 140 support blob with fighters, but instead they ran to their cyno jammer POS. It's playing it smart, I give them that credit. But, a boring night for us as a whole. Could have been great. --------------------------------------
Akromar D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 01:24:00 - [99] CCP your game has officially hit the fan. imma go play somethin else nao kthanxbai. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Myz Toyou Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 01:24:00 - [100] This is by far the worst lag I ever had, was flying 15min with 3 full red bars around your POS with only a few modules left till I logged and woke up in my clone station \o/ CCP -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your signature image exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Ademius Knortak coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 01:28:00 - [101] Edited by: Ademius Knortak on 05/01/2008 01:28:55 zzzzzz node failed with cva vs tri and after we added 80iac, 60 goons and more ... kinda unplayable. worse then uejx, bkg and every fight ive been in so far.
Simariliia Spartan Industries Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 01:33:00 - [102] Edited by: Simariliia on 05/01/2008 01:33:39 apperently,I just lost my hac to a lonly rifter.....desperate trying to activate my guns on him. even with my rep running....I never got the chance to shoot at him. sat there for 2min while trying to get my guns to activate even after I had lock for a good while. I cant confirm this though, as it was just what i saw:p and i havent been able to log in after I desynced in my pod and tryed to relog. super lag:S ¿ -------Made in Thailand---- -------Living in Norway----
Lowanaera Amarr Celestial Janissaries Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.05 01:34:00 - [103] Originally by: XxAngelxX We looked for a target who were capable, had numbers to match, weren't involved so much in blob warfare and somewhere where we thought lag wouldn't ruin our idea of fun. Call us idealists, we just had a very realistic experience and that will be us vs CVA done I think. CVA could have fought us on the gate, us jumping into their 20+ caps plus 140 support blob with fighters, but instead they ran to their cyno jammer POS. It's playing it smart, I give them that credit. But, a boring night for us as a whole. Could have been great. Trying to counter 150 nano-HACs with snipers and mass amounts of tackle-frigs is utterly foolish, our priority when you hit POS is saving those POS, not giving you what you want. Sorry.
Thanos Mortis The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 01:36:00 - [104] Worse server performance I've ever seen. Seriously makes me consider another game for the first time in a long while. -
Disunity Gallente Royal Regiment of Wales	Posted - 2008.01.05 01:37:00 - [105] Originally by: Lowa Ok, I know, its been said before but seriously: This needs to be fixed. I dont give a rats fking ass about Blackops doing insignificant damage to newbs in high sec then Cynoing out compared to the huge damage to the PvP player base experience with the absolutely horrible server performace that exists right now. This is not what we all pay for. It is as simple as that. And no. You cant have my stuff. Regards, Lowa That answers my question, sorry all but Ive been here before and Im not interested in doing it again. Nobody wins king of the hill when the hill is made of ****e. Inveniam viam aut faciam.
Deva Blackfire D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 01:39:00 - [106] Originally by: Lowanaera Originally by: XxAngelxX We looked for a target who were capable, had numbers to match, weren't involved so much in blob warfare and somewhere where we thought lag wouldn't ruin our idea of fun. Call us idealists, we just had a very realistic experience and that will be us vs CVA done I think. CVA could have fought us on the gate, us jumping into their 20+ caps plus 140 support blob with fighters, but instead they ran to their cyno jammer POS. It's playing it smart, I give them that credit. But, a boring night for us as a whole. Could have been great. Trying to counter 150 nano-HACs with snipers and mass amounts of tackle-frigs is utterly foolish, our priority when you hit POS is saving those POS, not giving you what you want. Sorry. At least dont feed publicy with false stories of you engaging against the odds.
Lowanaera Amarr Celestial Janissaries Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.05 01:42:00 - [107] Err, where in my post did I say any such thing?
Halkin D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 01:44:00 - [108] lets not all get bitter, server won this tbh. this could have been an epic fight, but as most ppl have already realised its simply not possible to do it on this scale. more fool us for looking for it. Originally by: InigoMontoya - re: iMune alliance situation I would sue Concord for breach of contract, you paid the fees, where is your pew pew?
Gamesguy Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 01:45:00 - [109] 10 minutes to switch from MF to aurora. Amarr fast ammo switching my ass.
Tonkin D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 01:47:00 - [110] CCP HAD THE DAMN TIME TO REINFORCE THE FECKING NODE 2 DAYS. Fair play bring goons ian aaa more the fun, but jesus with just us and cva in system we couldnt engage each other
Matrixcvd Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 01:48:00 - [111] Worst lag ever, its just unexceptable. If CCP works half as hard on the nerf package and don't fix this game then that should be a crime punishable by death. This product shouldn't/can't be endorsed...
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.05 01:50:00 - [112] Yeah, lag was pretty bad. No, CVA did not engage TRI where and when TRI wanted. CVA had a mission: save our stations, save our sovereignty. Not play games on a gate against a very large (150 or so) nanogang. TRI reshipped to try and take care of their mission: taking out the cyno jammer so that they could bring their caps in and finish the job. We (Providence forces led by CVA) stopped them in the first attack. IAC and Goons came to join the fun later, server lag got aweful, that was game over for the fighting at that point. With all that alt posting about how CVA was gonna roll over and die, is it any wonder folks were not aware of a big fight and wouldn't want a piece? It's interesting to note that TRI's own "TRI down south" killboard campaign specifically has IAC listed as a target. Bit silly to complain about them having a vested interest in bolstering CVA. All in all, an ugly situation due to lag...but Providence is not "Disneyland PvP." CVA is not a major alliance by any means, but we're as competetive as anyone, and coming to Provi for "fun pvp" and complaining when we didn't play your game is futile. Our space was threatened, and we responded.
D2O HeavyWater Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 01:51:00 - [113] Dear me was warped into at least 4 engagements and didnÆt load a single hostile ship all night :( Great work CCP lovely fancy graphics to attract new players, wrecked gameplay for the old timemers. In preparing for battle I have always found that plans are useless, but planning is indispensable.
Elendar The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 01:52:00 - [114] My first fleet fight, hopefully my last. Completely pointless to even turn up to large scale pvp in eve. CCP 1 - Tri/CVA 0 CVA could have fought us at the gate but chose not to, its not what we'ed have done in their situation but it worked for them and in the end boring though it was they did what they had to do. Fight at the pos could have been fun though if we'ed loaded ---------------------------- There is no sig
Hei'di D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 01:53:00 - [115] Originally by: Garreck blablabla....and we responded. sadly the servers stopped responding. useless! Who wanna have my stuff?
Diekraft Minmatar D00M.	Posted - 2008.01.05 01:57:00 - [116] Well done to both sides for putting up with the lag tbh. CCP Your game is ***** **, sort it out!
Simariliia Spartan Industries Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 01:58:00 - [117] Originally by: Dyntheos Sorry we didn't get a proper fight....I was looking forward to some nice fleet action but it seems it was no meant to be ye...we dont blame u guys. u guys managed ure objective though. but its kinda sux that its more or less impossible to be the jump in/warp in/loader to a fight. guess it was quiet bad for even u guys, even u had alrdy loaded the grind. ¿ -------Made in Thailand---- -------Living in Norway----
Solusar Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:00:00 - [118] Originally by: XxAngelxX We looked for a target who were capable, had numbers to match, weren't involved so much in blob warfare and somewhere where we thought lag wouldn't ruin our idea of fun. Call us idealists, we just had a very realistic experience and that will be us vs CVA done I think. CVA could have fought us on the gate, us jumping into their 20+ caps plus 140 support blob with fighters, but instead they ran to their cyno jammer POS. It's playing it smart, I give them that credit. But, a boring night for us as a whole. Could have been great. When you reinforced the POS you had 72 bs and 40 ish capitals. You know we cannot match those numbers yet you harp on about even fights. Tri is over twice the size of CVA. CVA is not a purely PVP alliance. You brought a 150man nano gang to the battle at the offset, which we aren't stupid enough to fight with snipers and interceptors. So we pulled back. We had a mission, you attacked CVA's first outpost. IF you just want "fun fights" then perhaps rethink your strategy. Fighting a 150man nanoblob is definately not in my list of fun things to do in eve.
Maeltstome Minmatar D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:00:00 - [119] Originally by: Lowanaera Originally by: XxAngelxX We looked for a target who were capable, had numbers to match, weren't involved so much in blob warfare and somewhere where we thought lag wouldn't ruin our idea of fun. Call us idealists, we just had a very realistic experience and that will be us vs CVA done I think. CVA could have fought us on the gate, us jumping into their 20+ caps plus 140 support blob with fighters, but instead they ran to their cyno jammer POS. It's playing it smart, I give them that credit. But, a boring night for us as a whole. Could have been great. Trying to counter 150 nano-HACs with snipers and mass amounts of tackle-frigs is utterly foolish, our priority when you hit POS is saving those POS, not giving you what you want. Sorry. I was one of those nano-hac's, part of the wings dedicated to it - there where about 40 of us. Of the rest, it was frigs and heavy close range support (CS's etc). I went out with 10k of ammo in a snipest and came back with 10k of ammo. Despite 3 desyncs, 1 POS siege and 2 fleet fights, i never got attacked once and never fired a shot. In fact i spent 10 minutes during 1 desync trying to load the correct script into my tracking enhancer. The remainder of the time was spent locking the same target 30-40 times and then it failing due to range. I think no one won this - we came in out numbered and we still didn't get a fight. In my case i didnt even get to lock anyone. Props for not just surrendering though. ------- [12:07] w33Daz: a trained 1 skill fur 24 mins n it took 2 days aff drones lvl 5 [12:07] w33Daz: A WIS LIKE WTF
Jim Linger Naughty 40 Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:01:00 - [120] lag makes me emo i'm not an alt i just post like one
Tonkin D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:01:00 - [121] Originally by: Solusar Originally by: XxAngelxX We looked for a target who were capable, had numbers to match, weren't involved so much in blob warfare and somewhere where we thought lag wouldn't ruin our idea of fun. Call us idealists, we just had a very realistic experience and that will be us vs CVA done I think. CVA could have fought us on the gate, us jumping into their 20+ caps plus 140 support blob with fighters, but instead they ran to their cyno jammer POS. It's playing it smart, I give them that credit. But, a boring night for us as a whole. Could have been great. When you reinforced the POS you had 72 bs and 40 ish capitals. You know we cannot match those numbers yet you harp on about even fights. Tri is over twice the size of CVA. CVA is not a purely PVP alliance. You brought a 150man nano gang to the battle at the offset, which we aren't stupid enough to fight with snipers and interceptors. So we pulled back. We had a mission, you attacked CVA's first outpost. IF you just want "fun fights" then perhaps rethink your strategy. Fighting a 150man nanoblob is definately not in my list of fun things to do in eve. stfu, we aint going about even fights here im complaining about the damn lag, even if u outnumbered us 10-1 we still fight u
Super Twinkey69 D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:03:00 - [122] Edited by: Super Twinkey69 on 05/01/2008 02:05:37 Originally by: Solusar Originally by: XxAngelxX We looked for a target who were capable, had numbers to match, weren't involved so much in blob warfare and somewhere where we thought lag wouldn't ruin our idea of fun. Call us idealists, we just had a very realistic experience and that will be us vs CVA done I think. CVA could have fought us on the gate, us jumping into their 20+ caps plus 140 support blob with fighters, but instead they ran to their cyno jammer POS. It's playing it smart, I give them that credit. But, a boring night for us as a whole. Could have been great. When you reinforced the POS you had 72 bs and 40 ish capitals. You know we cannot match those numbers yet you harp on about even fights. Tri is over twice the size of CVA. CVA is not a purely PVP alliance. You brought a 150man nano gang to the battle at the offset, which we aren't stupid enough to fight with snipers and interceptors. So we pulled back. We had a mission, you attacked CVA's first outpost. IF you just want "fun fights" then perhaps rethink your strategy. Fighting a 150man nanoblob is definately not in my list of fun things to do in eve. thats cuz ur a ***** o0 *respect to your alliance and allies for defending your space tho we wernt after it :P booooooo for not wanting to fight for it :/
ArchenTheGreat Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:04:00 - [123] Originally by: Garreck We (Providence forces led by CVA) stopped them in the first attack. Nah, it wasn't you. Cyno would be down already if not the lag. Most of BS pilots couldn't even see the POS, including our FC. You can't fight in this situation. Goons/IAC/etc were just icing at the cake.
Ozstar Naughty 40 Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:05:00 - [124] Id like to point out to CVA that we are not complaining about how you have fought, or the tactics you have used. You have been smart and picked your fights, we respect you. Most of our guys are frustrated with the server performance tonight, we did everything we could but the server had other ideas - lets hope people keep the emo-rage posting to a minimum, its nobodies fault. We came, we saw, we lagged out.
Ituralde The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:07:00 - [125] TBH I rather think anyone who doesn't engage in their own cyno-jammed system when they have 3 motherships and 15-20 carriers, a support and sniper fleet, and a 100 allies next door is a mite cowardly. Perhaps the support fleet might have given you some trouble, but not touching exposed snipers when you have active caps and supercaps in a cyno-jammed system is either cowardice or incompetence. No matter, at the end of the day it's your choice how you choose to defend your system, by fighting or by taking advantage of server conditions. You still have your station, well done. A shame things didn't work out. A fight with the entire south would have been cool if the system was functional. _____________________________ Fear is the mind-killer.
Elliott Manchild omen. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:08:00 - [126] GG I guess, I shot 1 shot from each gun the whole time. Loaded POS when warp out was called. But fair play to CVA.
Mihn Huddy HUSARIA Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:09:00 - [127] Edited by: Mihn Huddy on 05/01/2008 02:10:08 Originally by: Ozstar Id like to point out to CVA that we are not complaining about how you have fought, or the tactics you have used. You have been smart and picked your fights, we respect you. Most of our guys are frustrated with the server performance tonight, we did everything we could but the server had other ideas - lets hope people keep the emo-rage posting to a minimum, its nobodies fault. We came, we saw, we lagged out. Hey, did Tri recruited some spokesmen recently? Or it was vacant for too long, so you we're forced to take it? :D
Iraf Thaiberd GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:10:00 - [128] Originally by: Ituralde TBH I rather think anyone who doesn't engage in their own cyno-jammed system when they have 3 motherships and 15-20 carriers, a support and sniper fleet, and a 100 allies next door is a mite cowardly. I'm not sure the people who haul ass out of system at the first sign of not having superior numbers in local get to throw the term "cowardly" around so lightly. Oh, Tri, I remember when I worried about you turning into something entertaining one day.
Solusar Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:11:00 - [129] Originally by: Maeltstome Originally by: Lowanaera Originally by: XxAngelxX We looked for a target who were capable, had numbers to match, weren't involved so much in blob warfare and somewhere where we thought lag wouldn't ruin our idea of fun. Call us idealists, we just had a very realistic experience and that will be us vs CVA done I think. CVA could have fought us on the gate, us jumping into their 20+ caps plus 140 support blob with fighters, but instead they ran to their cyno jammer POS. It's playing it smart, I give them that credit. But, a boring night for us as a whole. Could have been great. Trying to counter 150 nano-HACs with snipers and mass amounts of tackle-frigs is utterly foolish, our priority when you hit POS is saving those POS, not giving you what you want. Sorry. I was one of those nano-hac's, part of the wings dedicated to it - there where about 40 of us. Of the rest, it was frigs and heavy close range support (CS's etc). times and then it failing due to range. I think no one won this - we came in out numbered and we still didn't get a fight. In my case i didnt even get to lock anyone. Props for not just surrendering though. Well I fired a total of 14 rounds of spike L The nanohac gang worked well, it let you secure the gate then reship ppl in groups back into battleships from Misaba. But its not something we are going to fight with the force we had, i'm sure if your honest you would of done the same if the roles were reversed. We had more numbers indeed, not by many however. Local was at about 370 during the POS fight and our gang topped out at 191. However you had 96 sniper battleships compared to our 43. Our capitals made up for that but they are not exactly a mobile force.
touchvill D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:13:00 - [130] Well I shot at a rifter at the pos and that was it all night for me. Pretty sad way to end this to be honest but what can we do. It's not as if lag is going to go any time soon. Nice resistance CVA, we would have put up a much stronger fight if we could load the grids unfortunately, outnumbered fight at a pos which we couldn't load up is not going to happen. We tried it, we lost a few ships, we tried sucking you out, and nothing. So we got word of IAC/Goons backup so we tried to cut them off and fight them but they left. We came back and caught you guys at a gate and actually held the field although I only loaded grid when the last ship was warping out (hi Yzzer). It's been good down here and yes you had more than us and still called support and you hugged the pos and ran when we first came in etc etc etc. It's not you're job to supply us fun fights, it's not in your interests I respect that just dissapointed that this all had to end on such a low. It's a shame, I am sure it will happen again soon. You have been good sports. It's not easy to take though when you attack things as a solo entity of a small/medium size alliance and the node can't handle that. We would have been more than happy to engaged outnumbered and out gunned, warping to the pos tonight though was pretty much self destructing our ship. It wasn't loading and when there was like 18 carriers 3 motherships pos guns and the rest of the enemy fleet there trying to shoot you it can get a little difficult. Anyway good fights CVA and co it's been a blast. (up to tonight anyway) ---------- dot the dot then dot the dot then all you have done is dotted two dots. Amazing no?
Super Twinkey69 D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:14:00 - [131] Originally by: Iraf Thaiberd Originally by: Ituralde TBH I rather think anyone who doesn't engage in their own cyno-jammed system when they have 3 motherships and 15-20 carriers, a support and sniper fleet, and a 100 allies next door is a mite cowardly. I'm not sure the people who haul ass out of system at the first sign of not having superior numbers in local get to throw the term "cowardly" around so lightly. Oh, Tri, I remember when I worried about you turning into something entertaining one day. wasnt you or your numbers we feared-you be wrong in thinking that m8-we came for a fight and ccp wouldnt let us have one :(
TrevorReznik Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:14:00 - [132] You guys should be thanking lag for saving you from the blob jumping in, with good server performance you'd all be dead XD
Ozstar Naughty 40 Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:14:00 - [133] Edited by: Ozstar on 05/01/2008 02:15:45 Originally by: Iraf Thaiberd Originally by: Ituralde TBH I rather think anyone who doesn't engage in their own cyno-jammed system when they have 3 motherships and 15-20 carriers, a support and sniper fleet, and a 100 allies next door is a mite cowardly. I'm not sure the people who haul ass out of system at the first sign of not having superior numbers in local get to throw the term "cowardly" around so lightly. Oh, Tri, I remember when I worried about you turning into something entertaining one day. shrugs We engaged as best we could. Originally by: TrevorReznik You guys should be thanking lag for saving you from the blob jumping in, with good server performance you'd all be dead XD When IAC were jumping in, we made the decision to fight whoever came, regardless of losses - but when you cant actually shoot people, it becomes frustrating, hence why we pulled back.
panz3r Gallente Viper Squad Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:15:00 - [134] And don't forget we PAY MONEY to play this game, monthly. And in the end probably they don't see anything wrong in the logs.
Jebidus Skari Amarr The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:16:00 - [135] thats was utterly ridiculous, we couldnt even have a decent fight, the grid never loaded the server died, OMG. It would of been great to have a lag free fight win or lose but no as usual CCP FAIL!!
Simariliia Spartan Industries Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:17:00 - [136] Edited by: Simariliia on 05/01/2008 02:17:51 Originally by: Solusar Originally by: Maeltstome Originally by: Lowanaera Originally by: XxAngelxX We looked for a target who were capable, had numbers to match, weren't involved so much in blob warfare and somewhere where we thought lag wouldn't ruin our idea of fun. Call us idealists, we just had a very realistic experience and that will be us vs CVA done I think. CVA could have fought us on the gate, us jumping into their 20+ caps plus 140 support blob with fighters, but instead they ran to their cyno jammer POS. It's playing it smart, I give them that credit. But, a boring night for us as a whole. Could have been great. Trying to counter 150 nano-HACs with snipers and mass amounts of tackle-frigs is utterly foolish, our priority when you hit POS is saving those POS, not giving you what you want. Sorry. I dont think most of us are argueing about u not attacking. its a totaly valid tactic and I understand why u did it. So no reason to defend it rly... its totaly ok. Its just very sad, that something that could have becommend a truly epic fight ended up in a total lag fest. :) I was one of those nano-hac's, part of the wings dedicated to it - there where about 40 of us. Of the rest, it was frigs and heavy close range support (CS's etc). times and then it failing due to range. I think no one won this - we came in out numbered and we still didn't get a fight. In my case i didnt even get to lock anyone. Props for not just surrendering though. Well I fired a total of 14 rounds of spike L The nanohac gang worked well, it let you secure the gate then reship ppl in groups back into battleships from Misaba. But its not something we are going to fight with the force we had, i'm sure if your honest you would of done the same if the roles were reversed. We had more numbers indeed, not by many however. Local was at about 370 during the POS fight and our gang topped out at 191. However you had 96 sniper battleships compared to our 43. Our capitals made up for that but they are not exactly a mobile force. I dont think most of us are argueing about u not attacking. its a totaly valid tactic and I understand why u did it. So no reason to defend it rly... its totaly ok. Its just very sad, that something that could have becommend a truly epic fight ended up in a total lag fest. :) ¿ -------Made in Thailand---- -------Living in Norway----
Jemanu	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:17:00 - [137] good fighting guys, only thing that ruined it was ccp.
Deva Blackfire D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:17:00 - [138] Originally by: TrevorReznik You guys should be thanking lag for saving you from the blob jumping in, with good server performance you'd all be dead XD Yeap. And some CVA carriers if more than 5 guys could actually shoot :)
Xiaodown Dragons Of Redemption Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:20:00 - [139] Originally by: Mihn Huddy Edited by: Mihn Huddy on 05/01/2008 02:10:08 Originally by: Ozstar Id like to point out to CVA that we are not complaining about how you have fought, or the tactics you have used. You have been smart and picked your fights, we respect you. Most of our guys are frustrated with the server performance tonight, we did everything we could but the server had other ideas - lets hope people keep the emo-rage posting to a minimum, its nobodies fault. We came, we saw, we lagged out. Hey, did Tri recruited some spokesmen recently? Or it was vacant for too long, so you we're forced to take it? :D Nah, he's right. We were frustrated to not get a fight, but we can't blame CVA for their tactics. Without lag, that might have been a pretty sweet fight. With the lag, it was intolerable. We're frustrated with CCP, and it's our emo rage that's making us lash out at whoever is near by. Srsly, though, CCP - fix the lag. -- Listen to BoB Radio! I DJ sometimes!
Iraf Thaiberd GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:20:00 - [140] Originally by: Ozstar When IAC were jumping in, we made the decision to fight whoever came, regardless of losses - but when you cant actually shoot people, it becomes frustrating, hence why we pulled back. Welcome to non-northern-pushover station system POS warfare. This is the way it is; this is the way it will always be.
Brunswick2 coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:20:00 - [141] Originally by: TrevorReznik You guys should be thanking lag for saving you from the blob jumping in, with good server performance you'd all be dead XD We're all dead. We just don't know it yet.
Darkopteron Nexus Analytics Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:21:00 - [142] Tonight went like this: TRI: Yarr we are coming to prawn j00 CVA: HALP our jammer is under attack IAC: K, omw *iac fleet enters providence, the node screams and tri disengage* TRI: lets camp the x6 gate! IAC: lets jump in! *scene missing* TRI: waaah lagsploitz runz0r! IAC: oooh free t2 drones left behind! CVA: yay we're saved!
Tanya Kovacs coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:23:00 - [143] Edited by: Tanya Kovacs on 05/01/2008 02:24:22 Originally by: Darkopteron Tonight went like this: TRI: Yarr we are coming to prawn j00 CVA: HALP our jammer is under attack IAC: K, omw *iac fleet enters providence, the node screams and tri disengage* TRI: lets camp the x6 gate! IAC: lets jump in! *scene missing* TRI: waaah lagsploitz runz0r! IAC: oooh free t2 drones left behind! CVA: yay we're saved! you got it. really. this is exactly what happened. i'm impressed! --- ♥ Inz, you had teh flavour ♥
Jogyn Spartan Industries Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:23:00 - [144] Im not very good with words. Yes, Im sure CVA are nice guys and all, and Hardins posts are always nice, But Im sure we all can agree on that CVA are not like TRI. CVA wants to keep their space and not loose ships, although I do get annoyed by that Im not blaming them. TRI is a pvp alliance, CVA is a roleplaying alliance. Im not gonna sit here and pretend that we are all good friends and stuff, but I think we have had 3 (three) real fleetbatlles since we arrived to providence (1 month +) ago, and thats not because there hasnt been any opportunities. CVA dont engage and unless forced to, and that makes them boring enemies, not bad, not noobs or **** like that, just boring. Today TRI had 100 BS + 50 support and no caps. CVA + friends had around 70 BS, 100+ support, 3 motherships and 18 carriers + a cyno jammer and 100 allies next door + 200 empty t1 frigs at another pos (for lag or backup ship i dont know). Yet you decided to stay at your cyno jammer pos untill we decided to leave.
Phrixus Zephyr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:24:00 - [145] Will people stop complaining about how an enemy chooses to engage you? If we set up a defence and an enemy came at use with something unexpected that put us a serious disadvatage, we'd change the engagement aswell, so put a ***** sock in it. . A little context: A fight of this size with 2 days warning up in the north would proberbly hold up 90% of the time. People are **ed off because even with the (relatively) low number of people involved, it was stupidly unplayable. So take gripes with a pinch of salt. People are really trying to keep fights as small as possible while still engaging in a fleet and Eve still slaps everyone down.
Hardin Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:27:00 - [146] CVA started forming a gang early tonight (around 18.30) with help from Paxton, Sylph, Amarrian loyalists and other interested residents of Providence. since the attack on Wednesday we had repaired our cynojammer and as a result our primary goal was to defend our cynojammer and prevent the overwhelming Tri Cap Fleet from getting into the system and killing the three POS we had in reinforced. Therefore our initial focus was on a fight at the POS and our fleet was setup to do that - hence around 70 of our pilots were in frigate/inty class ships. We had a sniper group (not large by Tri standards), we had a close range group and we had a capital group of approximately 20. Initially our view was that we did not want to engage anywhere else than the POS however as our gang gre towards 160 (bear in mind Tri gang on Wednesday was in this vicinity) we decided to try and inflict damage on Triumviartes BS on jump in and deployed tacklers with fighters, close support and snipers to the R3 gate with a large bubble deployed. The Triumvirate gang who were also around 150/160 pilots (according to our scouts) decided they did not want to take this opportunity and instead refitted into what appeared to us to be a majority nano gang to counter our tactics at the gate. It was a clever move and we were forced to withdraw off gate or face the loss of a large chunk of our fleet before the serious business began. The Tri gang jumped in and destroyed the big bubble killing a couple of people who had ignored all request to 'Get off the ffing gate' With their access to Xr secured Tri started rotating their fleet back into sniper battleships. At 00.00 our tally of Tri BS was over 100. How many of them were snipers I don't know but they signicantly out weighed our own snipers. It was our decision that an assault on this fleet at the R3 gate would be suicidal and we waited for them to come and take down the jammer at the POS. By now we were up to 180 or so in gang. We had capitals at edge of POS shield ready to rep the cynojammer plus our 70 or so fast tacklers ready to drop on Tri snipers allowing our POS to kill them. Eventually Tri warped in. For some reason they warped their support in first in close range to the POS almost directly on top of our Capitals. By coincidence we had already decided to concentrate on HACs/Hics/CS/Recons and POS gunners had these overview setting loaded and we set about taking out these targets. Lag was stupendous. I have no doubt it was probably worse for Tri warping in but as a POS gunner I was not able to lock my first target for at least 5 mins after Triumvirate came in. In fact I think most of the kills on their support came from them aggroing our carriers and having the drones running after them... By now Tri snipers had arrived - but out of range of jammer - and we turned our fire to them. As the fight went on lag reduced substantially but by now many Tri had already died and our tacklers were in the midst of their fleet. I haven't examined killboards yet but would anticipate that around 20 to 30 tri died in this assault without scratching the cynojammer. A few of our armor tanked Carriers had shields removed but nothing too worrying. Anyway, We still had around 120/130 active Tri in system and we then heard that around 90 Goons and IAC were heading our way from the X6 direction. I am not completely sure what happened at this stage as we were told that Goons/IAC were going to jump in from X6 and then we saw Tri jumping into X6. As a result we sent our close range and tacklers supported by fighters to x6 gate to support the IAC/Goon jump in. Except we didn't see them jump in. Nor did we see the entire Tri fleet jump back in until their snipers appeared about 160 off the gate The lag was so bad that not only had Goons and IAC jumped into XR past our fleet on the gate so had Tri and indeed got into sniper position while we sat there oblivious. ------------------------------
CVA Diplomat More Allies Plz	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:27:00 - [147] Cowards hiding at stations. I predicted this all.
Scavok GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:29:00 - [148] The node sucked more than normal but the game is always playable with some patience.
Swamp Ziro GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:30:00 - [149] Edited by: Swamp Ziro on 05/01/2008 02:30:06 TRI, meet pos-warfare lag, it has been around since like forever and you probably didn't even see the worst of it, have fun in the future trying to find good fights
AonChilo Madison Industrial Co. Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:30:00 - [150] The lag was so bad for me, I had enough time to use the toilet between my screen refreshes. This is no joke Tri is definitely good at PVP though and they put on some serious heat for Providence and northern Catch area. All I can say is thanks for bringing it! It was getting too quiet around here anyways at times. Also want to say thanks to IAC for help...and even to AAA, Goons (even though they shoot me)...I definitely respect your PVP too!
Darknesss D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:33:00 - [151] Nice post hardin, and very accurate. Dark
Lowa Gallente North Star Networks Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:33:00 - [152] The only thing that saved anyone tonight is the server performance. No more no less. We would have fought ANYONE AND ANYWHERE if it was possible to do so. This time it wasnt. When IAC/Goons came in I was like "yes, a nice sniper fest!" Then nothing loaded. Again. So whats the point? I would GLADLY go down in a good fight! But going down without loading/responding is NOT what I play for. You might be willing to accept that but I am not. Quite simple no? Anywho, I was hoping for a good fight to end this. It didnt happened. Makes my decision all that easier though. Sadly. I be seeing you, somewhere else. Hail CVA! o/ Cheers, Lowa What if the truth was something else?
Hardin Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:34:00 - [153] As a result we started to lose ships at the gate and as a result we pulled our guys off the gate. I think by now Tri had had enough - especially after their beating at POS and the fact that the Goons/IAC arrival meant they were outnumbered in the region of 130 to 260 or so. We are sad that the fight at the POS was so laggy. Yes it helped us defend the thing but I will say now that we in no way thought this was a done deal. 100 snipers can kill a cynojammer very quickly and we had no idea if would inflict enough damage to drive the snipers off before they knocked it down and if Tri got their 6 MS and 40 caps in could have been a very different story tonight... As I said at the start we had around 80 pilots in basic/frigs/inties dictors... ready to die for the cause tonight... We had 150 replacement tackler frigs ready in POSes to replace ships lost by our pilots. We did that because we respected Tri's abilities and capabilities... ------------------------------
Ozstar Naughty 40 Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:35:00 - [154] Originally by: Darkopteron Tonight went like this: TRI: Yarr we are coming to prawn j00 CVA: HALP our jammer is under attack IAC: K, omw *iac fleet enters providence, the node screams and tri disengage* TRI: lets camp the x6 gate! IAC: lets jump in! *scene missing* TRI: waaah lagsploitz runz0r! IAC: oooh free t2 drones left behind! CVA: yay we're saved! ex-frege, 13 days in IAC, smacking TRI. -1 respect.
Swamp Ziro GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:35:00 - [155] Edited by: Swamp Ziro on 05/01/2008 02:35:29 Originally by: Lowa The only thing that saved anyone tonight is the server performance. No more no less. We would have fought ANYONE AND ANYWHERE if it was possible to do so. Quote: This would look really convincing if the whole south hadn't been engaged in large scale warfare for the past year under worse conditions than what you encountered today and soldiered on anyway
Brunswick2 coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:37:00 - [156] Edited by: Brunswick2 on 05/01/2008 02:37:33 Originally by: Swamp Ziro This would look really convincing if the whole south hadn't been engaged in large scale warfare for the past year under worse conditions than what you encountered today and soldiered on anyway Except when carriers were causing "lag."
The Mittani GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:37:00 - [157] normally we make fun of roleplayers but after what cva and paxton did against bob in that cyno system that i keep forgetting, we tend to help them out if they ever come under any strategic threat we usually have neutral standings and run around providence nbsi-ing in a nrds zone making buttes of ourselves thoh
Jhyme Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:38:00 - [158] Edited by: Jhyme on 05/01/2008 02:43:33 Triumvirate is blowing this way out of proportion. The goon fleet that jumped in was actually more around 20-30 (50 in gang, some haven't caught up stuck at T-R). IAC had about twice our numbers on jumping in. Grid load took 3 minutes and module lag was not bad at all once grid loaded (4-10 sec module lag). If lag was so bad, how come Triumvirate were able to warp off before most of us could finish locking? Did you guys even try to lock one of us and fight back? When I jumped in, I thought I was dead from the size of the triumvirate gate camp. You had snipers spots set up, and more sniping battleships than could fit on my overview. We had shoddy intel going in, and alot of us were in disposable cheap ships. I was more surprised than anything when you guys warped away. I'm pretty new at EVE, but today was relatively light compared to other fleet fights. I remember 2-r it took 30 minutes just to jump into system, and I desynched within a few seconds. I know MC and BoB have had it even worse in TPAR.
Darkopteron Nexus Analytics Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:39:00 - [159] Originally by: Ozstar ex-frege, 13 days in IAC, smacking TRI. -1 respect. Nice of you to look me up. Left them because I got bored of ratting. Not smacking, just giving a humorous view of the evenings proceedings, no bias intended. If you have any issues with me personally, mail me ingame rather than on public forums. Hugs and kisses, Dark.
Deva Blackfire D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:40:00 - [160] Originally by: Swamp Ziro Edited by: Swamp Ziro on 05/01/2008 02:35:53 Edited by: Swamp Ziro on 05/01/2008 02:35:29 Originally by: Lowa The only thing that saved anyone tonight is the server performance. No more no less. We would have fought ANYONE AND ANYWHERE if it was possible to do so. Quote: This would look really convincing if the whole south hadn't been engaged in large scale warfare for the past year under worse conditions than what you encountered today and soldiered on anyway Your preaching is really boring. 1. you werent long enough in goonfleet to remember XZH which was MUCH worse than this today 2. you werent in BKG where after node got REINFORCED (which was too late anyways) game carried on pretty OK with 500-600 local. Only party to blame is CCP for not reinforcing node even tho petitions were sent abt incoming large scale combat. But CCP is always like this "we cant reinforce because put_random_reason_here". When node crashes it suddenly becomes possible to reinforce node.
Halkin D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:40:00 - [161] Originally by: Iraf Thaiberd Originally by: Ozstar When IAC were jumping in, we made the decision to fight whoever came, regardless of losses - but when you cant actually shoot people, it becomes frustrating, hence why we pulled back. Welcome to non-northern-pushover station system POS warfare. This is the way it is; this is the way it will always be. yes the south is better, oh wait they dont have decent chips n gravy @;( Originally by: InigoMontoya - re: iMune alliance situation I would sue Concord for breach of contract, you paid the fees, where is your pew pew?
The Mittani GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:41:00 - [162] Originally by: Jhyme Edited by: Jhyme on 05/01/2008 02:38:58 Triumvirate is blowing this way out of proportion. The goon fleet that jumped in was actually more around 20-30 (50 in gang, some haven't caught up stuck at T-R). IAC had about twice our numbers on jumping in. Grid load took 3 minutes and module lag was not bad at all once grid loaded (4-10 sec module lag). If lag was so bad, how come Triumvirate were able to warp off before most of us could finish locking? Did you guys even try to lock one of us and fight back? I'm pretty new at EVE, but today was relatively light compared to other fleet fights. I remember 2-r it took 30 minutes just to jump into system, and I desynched within a few seconds. I know MC and BoB have had it even worse in TPAR. the rest of eve not participating in the great war isn't really used to 300 vs 300 slugfest lag, its normal for us but rare for tri or cva
Lowanaera Amarr Celestial Janissaries Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:41:00 - [163] In Tri's defense, 25S/FAT with 500+ in Local vs MC/BoB were far more playable than X-R tonight. Yeah, I'm sure plenty of times it's been worse, but this was definitely unusually bad.
Neaghan Grebs Clan Shadow Wolf Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:41:00 - [164] Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Will people stop complaining about how an enemy chooses to engage you? If we set up a defence and an enemy came at use with something unexpected that put us a serious disadvatage, we'd change the engagement aswell, so put a ***** sock in it. . A little context: A fight of this size with 2 days warning up in the north would proberbly hold up 90% of the time. People are **ed off because even with the (relatively) low number of people involved, it was stupidly unplayable. So take gripes with a pinch of salt. People are really trying to keep fights as small as possible while still engaging in a fleet and Eve still slaps everyone down. Now this is truth, I missed this fun due to crap internet connection but really, who fights on the enemies terms? CVA achieved what they set out to do, lag made everything difficult for everyone but everybody fights on the intel they have at the time and the ability they have at the time (ie who isn't lagged). Good fights aren't guaranteed with these conditions but until things improve this is how the game will be played. Here's hoping some folks at least enjoyed the night and will be up for more pew pew because that's what makes this game fun. Also hoping the servers can cope with it!
Deva Blackfire D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:43:00 - [165] Originally by: Jhyme If lag was so bad, how come Triumvirate were able to warp off before most of us could finish locking? Did you guys even try to lock one of us and fight back? We warped before you finished locking? Wow - and i thought warp out was called and pulled off before you jumped in. Here is your lag you couldnt find. Pretty much what you saw was only aftermatch when most of tri were already leaving system. As for numbers: we had 190 starting, after POS many ppl dropped, some died so gang went down to 140. After engagement at x6 gate gang went to 110 (+-10). Some died but i guess some lagged out on jump out/jump back in move. Anyways leaving X-R we had 110 ppl in gang, local was 340 (maybe rising... local counter got stuck for me after IAC started jumping in).
Halkin D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:44:00 - [166] Originally by: CVA Diplomat Cowards hiding at stations. I predicted this all. isnt it about time you took your face for a sh1t? Originally by: InigoMontoya - re: iMune alliance situation I would sue Concord for breach of contract, you paid the fees, where is your pew pew?
Pattonator Caldari Advanced Response Division G Thanks Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:45:00 - [167] Don't bother petitioning any loses as CCP's server-side logs won't show anything. Also all of their hamsters went out to the pub so they didn't even realize that things stopped working. On another note your fight messed up our gate camp 30+ jumps away due to the same lag (that didn't exist).
Ozstar Naughty 40 Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:45:00 - [168] Nice post Hardin. One thing i would like to clarify. When we decided to warp to the POS, it wasnt to take your cyno jammer down. We had been sat on the R3 gate for what seemed like 2 hours and we were all getting bored. We had reports of a few carriers out of the shield and chose Captain Birk's chimera as primary, thats why our support was all over your carriers, we had no intention of shooting the cyno. Apart from that, your pretty much right on the money - we jumped into the IAC gang but they ran off, jumped back into X-R and engaged your guys on the gate, then IAC jumped back and we lagged out about that point and pulled back.
Xiaodown Dragons Of Redemption Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:45:00 - [169] Originally by: Jhyme Edited by: Jhyme on 05/01/2008 02:43:33 Triumvirate is blowing this way out of proportion. The goon fleet that jumped in was actually more around 20-30 (50 in gang, some haven't caught up stuck at T-R). IAC had about twice our numbers on jumping in. Grid load took 3 minutes and module lag was not bad at all once grid loaded (4-10 sec module lag). If lag was so bad, how come Triumvirate were able to warp off before most of us could finish locking? Did you guys even try to lock one of us and fight back? When I jumped in, I thought I was dead from the size of the triumvirate gate camp. You had snipers spots set up, and more sniping battleships than could fit on my overview. We had shoddy intel going in, and alot of us were in disposable cheap ships. I was more surprised than anything when you guys warped away. I'm pretty new at EVE, but today was relatively light compared to other fleet fights. I remember 2-r it took 30 minutes just to jump into system, and I desynched within a few seconds. I know MC and BoB have had it even worse in TPAR. We're not used to this kind of lag, I guess. Is it seriously like that everywhere in the south? I can't believe I'm saying this to a goon, but props for being able and willing to play this game in that soup. -- Listen to BoB Radio! I DJ sometimes!
Jhyme Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:45:00 - [170] Originally by: Deva Blackfire Originally by: Jhyme If lag was so bad, how come Triumvirate were able to warp off before most of us could finish locking? Did you guys even try to lock one of us and fight back? We warped before you finished locking? Wow - and i thought warp out was called and pulled off before you jumped in. Here is your lag you couldnt find. Pretty much what you saw was only aftermatch when most of tri were already leaving system. As for numbers: we had 190 starting, after POS many ppl dropped, some died so gang went down to 140. After engagement at x6 gate gang went to 110 (+-10). Some died but i guess some lagged out on jump out/jump back in move. Anyways leaving X-R we had 110 ppl in gang, local was 340 (maybe rising... local counter got stuck for me after IAC started jumping in). Ok if you decided to pull out before we jumped in than it makes more sense. The impression I got from the previous posts was you tried to fight, decided that the lag made the game unplayable, and then called the retreat.
Lunara Yoshi Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:46:00 - [171] Originally by: Lowanaera In Tri's defense, 25S/FAT with 500+ in Local vs MC/BoB were far more playable than X-R tonight. Yeah, I'm sure plenty of times it's been worse, but this was definitely unusually bad. Yeah somehow most of the big fights over territory we're in get reinforced nodes pretty quick (49-, 25s & FAT), probably cos after 3 months of fighting CCP knew that when POS warfare is concerned, 400 in local is just building up forces.. Here it probably surprised us all.. but tbh the lag in 5-n was way worse than this tonite :) Shame about the lag, but that's eve right now, we'll just have to live with it.. :huggles to all:
Ozstar Naughty 40 Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:53:00 - [172] Originally by: Jhyme If lag was so bad, how come Triumvirate were able to warp off before most of us could finish locking? Did you guys even try to lock one of us and fight back? Im sure we did, but when your lagged out and your FC doesnt know whats happening its very hard to assess the situation and call targets.
Ultra Peanut GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:54:00 - [173] Tri are the paperest paper tiger to ever paper tiger
Xiaodown Dragons Of Redemption Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:56:00 - [174] Edited by: Xiaodown on 05/01/2008 02:59:19 Originally by: Ozstar Originally by: Jhyme If lag was so bad, how come Triumvirate were able to warp off before most of us could finish locking? Did you guys even try to lock one of us and fight back? Im sure we did, but when your lagged out and your FC doesnt know whats happening its very hard to assess the situation and call targets. Roffles, yeah, there was one kid named I think "PureDeath" that we had as primary... in a ... geddon? Anyway, we had him as primary for our entire support fleet, 50+ recons/hacs/intys shooting at this guy for literally 20 minutes. Don't know why he didn't warp out, but our guys were half still loading the grid, and I guess hits weren't registering right on him or something? I dunno. Anyway, like we lost 3 FC's and random joe's had to start calling targets. And I don't think we ever got away from PureDeath onto (secondary target of the moment) anyway =P. If that guy had an officer fit tank, props to him. Otherwise, roffles, gg ccp, and I guess we're taking our ball and going home. ~X Edit: looking at the kill mail (we did get him) I must have been the only one shooting him for most of the time (?a=kill_detail&kll_id=91583 on the tri killboard). Haha, I was one of the first to load the grid at that gate, and I heard the FC say PureDeath, so I started shooting! I guess that's probably a sign of our lag if the 50+ support gang I warped in with, almost none of them successfully fired on the first called primary target. -- Listen to BoB Radio! I DJ sometimes!
gamarus D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 03:00:00 - [175] Originally by: Jhyme Edited by: Jhyme on 05/01/2008 02:46:37 Originally by: Deva Blackfire Originally by: Jhyme If lag was so bad, how come Triumvirate were able to warp off before most of us could finish locking? Did you guys even try to lock one of us and fight back? We warped before you finished locking? Wow - and i thought warp out was called and pulled off before you jumped in. Here is your lag you couldnt find. Pretty much what you saw was only aftermatch when most of tri were already leaving system. As for numbers: we had 190 starting, after POS many ppl dropped, some died so gang went down to 140. After engagement at x6 gate gang went to 110 (+-10). Some died but i guess some lagged out on jump out/jump back in move. Anyways leaving X-R we had 110 ppl in gang, local was 340 (maybe rising... local counter got stuck for me after IAC started jumping in). Ok if you decided to pull out before we jumped in then it makes more sense. The impression I got from the previous posts was you tried to fight, decided that the lag made the game unplayable, and then called the retreat. Actually Hardin got it down pat: the IAC gang was reported in x6 - we loaded closerange and jumped in - and on to the ay- gate. The futility of a continued chase made us turn back to x-r3 where we jumped in, warped to the r3- gate, turned around and landed in a snipespot above the x6- gate once more. It now turned out (for those that actually shot anything) that it wasn't IAC we engaged, but CVA forces that had come to cover the gate. The lag was tremendous, so much that I am doubtful welter the support were able to drop a single bubble by that gate - CVA battleships warped off unimpeded Right after the last target had warped off or succumbed the retreat was called ending the Triumvirate attack on x-r3.
Halkin D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 03:02:00 - [176] Originally by: Ultra Peanut Tri are the paperest paper tiger to ever paper tiger and you are 100% pure alt, with a main in goon most likely, but the smack is teh weakest. learn from your brosefs aye? Originally by: InigoMontoya - re: iMune alliance situation I would sue Concord for breach of contract, you paid the fees, where is your pew pew?
Lowa Gallente North Star Networks Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 03:03:00 - [177] Originally by: Deva Blackfire Originally by: Jhyme Ok if you decided to pull out before we jumped in then it makes more sense. The impression I got from the previous posts was you tried to fight, decided that the lag made the game unplayable, and then called the retreat. I think someone actually saw 1 IAC guy and called him but cant be sure now. Anyways never seen anyone after CVA retreated from gate. Yep, I saw one IAC Raven, it managed to warp off. I honestly believe we didnt ran off, as I said when we heard "IAC/Goons are jumping" I thought "YAY!" but I never saw more than one single BS. I reloaded my overview with different settings and still I saw nothing (I did see on-screen messages of things getting warpscrambled though). However, shortly after the IAC Raven got out I believe we were warped out. Because there was nothing on the gate to fight. Anywho, this is pointless, lag or not, I've seen my share, the servers let us down. Nothing more to it than that. Cheers, Lowa - more wine, a smoke and bed time. What if the truth was something else?
Vyktor Abyss The Abyss Corporation Abyss Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.05 03:07:00 - [178] I'm sure everyone will be mighty relieved I never ran out of beer! Though I have to say I feel sorry for everyone. The tension during the build up of ships was like nothing I've experienced in EVE before. Knowing the superiority of the TRI Cap Fleet - wondering whether their reduced wardecs would mean more people thown at us... The almost uncontested entry to X-R3 for the bulk of the TRI fleet... THEN - farce... I won't go through blow by blow save to say that at the fight at the POS TRI seemed to suffer nasty lag since I got 2 poddings (solo) without a warp scramble... Justice was done though as at the X6 gate I loaded after about 5 minutes started targeting people then....nothing...my guns failed to engage and I could not move. My efforts to warp out were futile, I sailed forward watching my ship get chewed to bits (very slowly by 1 guy) to the destruction point - when nothing happened, no explosion, nothing.... Just lag for about 5 minutes - I used this time to get more beer and make some pancakes, and when I returned I still wasn't dead in a station - I'd now managed to warp to a SS in a pod apparently lol. I have to say all that excitement and tension built up reminds me personally of having a great night at a club dancing close to a really fit girl, a bit of smooching, perhaps a cheeky grope - then the expectant taxi ride home together only to find that she jumps out the taxi half way home, leaving you to go home alone stumping up the whole taxi fare too!! Argh - So disappointing!! So...I've no idea why I've gone off on this tragic tangent, but alas - woe is us - the poor chaps left home alone with nothing but w4nking material for company. It could have been so much better!
Lowa Gallente North Star Networks Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 03:08:00 - [179] Originally by: The Mittani the rest of eve not participating in the great war isn't really used to 300 vs 300 slugfest lag, its normal for us but rare for tri or cva Since I'm still on here I believe for a fight to be considered a slugfest most people would need to be able to actually activate guns. Cheers, Lowa What if the truth was something else?
Lowa Gallente North Star Networks Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 03:10:00 - [180] Originally by: Vyktor Abyss I have to say all that excitement and tension built up reminds me personally of having a great night at a club dancing close to a really fit girl, a bit of smooching, perhaps a cheeky grope - then the expectant taxi ride home together only to find that she jumps out the taxi half way home, leaving you to go home alone stumping up the whole taxi fare too!! Argh - So disappointing!! LMAO! SIGNED! /Lowa - ok last post for tonight. Promise! What if the truth was something else?
MAXSuicide Cosmic Fusion When Fat Kids Attack	Posted - 2008.01.05 03:17:00 - [181] Edited by: MAXSuicide on 05/01/2008 03:20:11 Originally by: Deva Blackfire Originally by: MAXSuicide thought tri were only fighting cva for some fights? not pos wars? guess their pride got damaged a bit too much by some roleplayers... Then work your magic and ask nicely CVA to actually engage outside of pos defence. Coz except for that i saw maybe 2 good fights. you should expect that from an alliance 1/4 your size that are merely roleplayer pvpers. but then again, your list of impressive alliance kills would say otherwise... Originally by: Major PewPew Originally by: MAXSuicide thought tri were only fighting cva for some fights? not pos wars? guess their pride got damaged a bit too much by some roleplayers... have you ever fought CVA? only way to get them out is to shoot their POS's CVA have certainly heard of Cosmic Fusion and x13 - we were busting up their capital ships while u were still jumping in and out of EC loaded with stabs Originally by: Weeman Max - stop stirring, only way to get good fleet battles now is to put pos's into reinforced. Noob! you know i dont stir weeman Just say it how it is..
Ultra Peanut GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.05 03:19:00 - [182] we're relevant i sweeeeaaaarrrrrr
Ozstar Naughty 40 Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 03:20:00 - [183] Originally by: MAXSuicide CVA have certainly heard of Cosmic Fusion and x13 - we were busting up their capital ships while u were still jumping in and out of EC loaded with stabs Come fight us, lets see how big those balls are.
Deva Blackfire D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 03:22:00 - [184] Originally by: Ozstar Originally by: MAXSuicide CVA have certainly heard of Cosmic Fusion and x13 - we were busting up their capital ships while u were still jumping in and out of EC loaded with stabs Come fight us, lets see how big those balls are. But 1st you need to kill cyno jammer?
MAXSuicide Cosmic Fusion When Fat Kids Attack	Posted - 2008.01.05 03:24:00 - [185] Edited by: MAXSuicide on 05/01/2008 03:24:54 Originally by: Ozstar Originally by: MAXSuicide CVA have certainly heard of Cosmic Fusion and x13 - we were busting up their capital ships while u were still jumping in and out of EC loaded with stabs Come fight us, lets see how big those balls are. ahahahahahahahaha.. go talk to darknessss about that. blatently ignorant of history
MuadChef D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 03:27:00 - [186] MaxSuicide, please tell me this is the original Char?
Ozstar Naughty 40 Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 03:30:00 - [187] Originally by: MAXSuicide blatently ignorant why yes, yes you are.
Mark Starkiller D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 03:32:00 - [188] war targets gf and bla bla bla, but i didnt see your fleet. in one month i killed much more neutrals than wt. it was fun but it was boring because we never had a proper fleet fight. no offense, i understand you have to deffend your space and war is war. but i repeat i never saw your fleet andgaging us, just cat and mouse.... /me goes back to north p.s. this post dont rapresent my alliance or my corp. its just me ****ed because of alt chest beating for no reason, lol
Spurty Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 03:34:00 - [189] TRI FCs, you did very well tonight considering the game failed you. The result was a disappointment not through your hard work or planning, but 'computers' that can't handle the load. No humans were responsible nor did they have any effect on the outcome (although they might want to pretend they did for their ego). CVA, sorry we couldn't test your defenses out, the game just refused to let us try. -- Two cannibals eating a clown. One says to the other "Does this taste funny to you?"
BobTheMechanic Caldari Sundering Pain	Posted - 2008.01.05 03:34:00 - [190] Originally by: Mark Starkiller war targets gf and bla bla bla, but i didnt see your fleet. in one month i killed much more neutrals than wt. it was fun but it was boring because we never had a proper fleet fight. no offense, i understand you have to deffend your space and war is war. but i repeat i never saw your fleet andgaging us, just cat and mouse.... /me goes back to north p.s. this post dont rapresent my alliance or my corp. its just me ****ed because of alt chest beating for no reason, lol I think it's sad that Tri always posts good fight and we respect you, when this is far from the truth. Nice to see true colors finally coming out.
Mark Starkiller D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 03:38:00 - [191] Edited by: Mark Starkiller on 05/01/2008 03:39:16 [quote I think it's sad that Tri always posts good fight and we respect you, when this is far from the truth. Nice to see true colors finally coming out. lol edit: this is my color
Spurty Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 03:42:00 - [192] Originally by: BobTheMechanic I think it's sad that Tri always posts good fight and we respect you, when this is far from the truth. Nice to see true colors finally coming out. so tell me about your mother? <Freud> Dude, you're crazy All he said was that we killed considerably more neutrals while at WAR with CVA than CVA. To me, seems like he was more surprised by this statistic than anything else. -- Two cannibals eating a clown. One says to the other "Does this taste funny to you?"
Phrixus Zephyr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 04:24:00 - [193] Originally by: BobTheMechanic I think it's sad that Tri always posts good fight and we respect you, when this is far from the truth. Nice to see true colors finally coming out. Reading comprehension 101. He didn't say respect or goodfight, he said he didn't have many if any at all. Anyone who did say good fight, proberbly had a good fight at some point. You would be making a point in there somewhere? I'm at a loss to see what it is.
BobTheMechanic Caldari Sundering Pain	Posted - 2008.01.05 04:25:00 - [194] keep trolling the thread tri guys. I have better things to do.
Phrixus Zephyr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 04:29:00 - [195] Originally by: BobTheMechanic keep trolling the thread tri guys. I have better things to do. So you can dish it out but can't take it back? Diddums.
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.01.05 04:50:00 - [196] Originally by: Darkopteron Tonight went like this: TRI: Yarr we are coming to prawn j00 CVA: HALP our jammer is under attack IAC: K, omw *iac fleet enters providence, the node screams and tri disengage* TRI: lets camp the x6 gate! IAC: lets jump in! *scene missing* TRI: waaah lagsploitz runz0r! IAC: oooh free t2 drones left behind! CVA: yay we're saved! I doubt CVA asked us for help with this. (or needed it for that matter) going by experience it was probably IAC's own initiative to head out there, and invited goons along. (VileLust likes playing with TRI) You should probably stay off the forums since your humor is insulting to our allies, our enemies and makes us look like blowhards http://eve.klaki.net/
deadmaus Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.01.05 04:54:00 - [197] Originally by: Laura Baretta Tri would probably be better off killing Razor or MM in the north. More enjoyable fights without the southern blob. Shhhhsh.
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.01.05 04:58:00 - [198] Originally by: Hardin Hopefully now we can get back to smiting the terrorists of Ushra'khan and the anarchists of Star Fraction who have been taking advantage of Tri's invasion to push their own agenda of chaos. Granted. But we were there before TRI turned up and we will continue in their absence. The guerilla fighter adapts to the changing combat environment and we will do so again. TRI, good attempt, unfortunate way for a campaign to end and best wishes for the future. As to the various low-rent alts that have infested the discourse around Providence lately: they disgust me. Cosmo The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Tonkin D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 07:05:00 - [199] Originally by: BobTheMechanic keep trolling the thread tri guys. I have better things to do. christ mate your number one on who to kill list. see ya around dude
BobTheMechanic Caldari Sundering Pain	Posted - 2008.01.05 07:09:00 - [200] Originally by: Tonkin Originally by: BobTheMechanic keep trolling the thread tri guys. I have better things to do. christ mate your number one on who to kill list. see ya around dude back from the pub. So you guys fail in the south, tell people to come north for fights, and i'm on your to kill list? yay my dreams came true!!!!
Phrixus Zephyr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 08:06:00 - [201] Originally by: BobTheMechanic Originally by: Tonkin Originally by: BobTheMechanic keep trolling the thread tri guys. I have better things to do. christ mate your number one on who to kill list. see ya around dude back from the pub. So you guys fail in the south, tell people to come north for fights, and i'm on your to kill list? yay my dreams came true!!!! The only person who has been told to come up north for fights is you, because you sure must be some kind of PVP god who can teach us all a lesson.
Tiberius Caesar Sothebys	Posted - 2008.01.05 08:18:00 - [202] Originally by: Solusar Originally by: XxAngelxX We looked for a target who were capable, had numbers to match, weren't involved so much in blob warfare and somewhere where we thought lag wouldn't ruin our idea of fun. Call us idealists, we just had a very realistic experience and that will be us vs CVA done I think. CVA could have fought us on the gate, us jumping into their 20+ caps plus 140 support blob with fighters, but instead they ran to their cyno jammer POS. It's playing it smart, I give them that credit. But, a boring night for us as a whole. Could have been great. When you reinforced the POS you had 72 bs and 40 ish capitals. You know we cannot match those numbers yet you harp on about even fights. Tri is over twice the size of CVA. CVA is not a purely PVP alliance. You brought a 150man nano gang to the battle at the offset, which we aren't stupid enough to fight with snipers and interceptors. So we pulled back. We had a mission, you attacked CVA's first outpost. IF you just want "fun fights" then perhaps rethink your strategy. Fighting a 150man nanoblob is definately not in my list of fun things to do in eve. All you guys ever did was blob or hide. Such is the state of eve now sadly...
Maeltstome Minmatar D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 16:06:00 - [203] Originally by: Darkopteron Tonight went like this: TRI: Yarr we are coming to prawn j00 CVA: HALP our jammer is under attack IAC: K, omw *iac fleet enters providence, the node screams and tri disengage* TRI: lets camp the x6 gate! --IAC: Lets Run away for 3 systems! --TRI: Let's go home! --IAC: Let's go back again and hide at a POS! --TRI: 180 turn guys, skrew the spies and engage! IAC: lets jump in! --Spies: They are coming back! *scene missing* TRI: waaah lagsploitz runz0r! IAC: oooh free t2 drones left behind! --CVA: Noes, our POS is popping IAC - lag! CVA: yay we're saved! Messages with a prefix of -- are the fixed version ------- [12:07] w33Daz: a trained 1 skill fur 24 mins n it took 2 days aff drones lvl 5 [12:07] w33Daz: A WIS LIKE WTF
Darknesss D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 16:54:00 - [204] Originally by: MAXSuicide Edited by: MAXSuicide on 05/01/2008 03:24:54 Originally by: Ozstar Originally by: MAXSuicide CVA have certainly heard of Cosmic Fusion and x13 - we were busting up their capital ships while u were still jumping in and out of EC loaded with stabs Come fight us, lets see how big those balls are. ahahahahahahahaha.. go talk to darknessss about that. blatently ignorant of history You mean when you war decced us, and the only time we saw you was a stabbed up vagabond running away? Yea you're uber. As always you post these bitter comments, trying to cause trouble. Are you bitter because you've never mattered in this game, yet try so hard?
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2008.01.05 17:01:00 - [205] Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Reading comprehension 101. He didn't say respect or goodfight, he said he didn't have many if any at all. Anyone who did say good fight, proberbly had a good fight at some point. I saw three of your Motherships gank a Battlecruiser in low-sec and then say 'gf' in local - if it's about that, yup, no good fights to be had here :P Now recruiting!
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.05 17:14:00 - [206] Edited by: Splagada on 05/01/2008 17:14:29 Vilelust is now in the higher ups in IAC ??(not trying to derail but this guy is actually a long long time bud from another game :p ) tell him bw says hi and gb2ff :p as obviously he doesnt read his evemails ------ Tides of Silence
BuckStrider Wreckless Abandon	Posted - 2008.01.05 17:32:00 - [207] Edited by: BuckStrider on 05/01/2008 17:33:41 Well....I really don't know what to say about this. There has to be an award someplace. Icky!
rogercodger	Posted - 2008.01.05 18:12:00 - [208] Summit forums are --->>> That way
Phrixus Zephyr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.05 18:47:00 - [209] Originally by: Tharrn Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Reading comprehension 101. He didn't say respect or goodfight, he said he didn't have many if any at all. Anyone who did say good fight, proberbly had a good fight at some point. I saw three of your Motherships gank a Battlecruiser in low-sec and then say 'gf' in local - if it's about that, yup, no good fights to be had here :P I've always had a passionate dislike for dropping capitals on anything that doesn't warrent it, i say this in alliance chat aswell, so you're preaching to the choir. As for saying GF. Everyone does that. MC drop motherships on your 7 man gang? GF. Your 3 man gang getts wtfbbq'd by a 20 man gang coming the other way? GF. You get ganked by someone while ratting in a belt? GF. Etc, etc, ad nausium.

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