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Saint Apathy Gallente exiled souls Dark Matter Empire	Posted - 2008.01.08 01:39:00 - [31] Damn, these lotteries move fast. Originally by: Malcanis How can you be paranoid in EvE? Everyone really is out to get you.
Sadly Analt	Posted - 2008.01.08 01:44:00 - [32] Looking back now, Norton didn't pay. There's still one for sale....
Taco Perez	Posted - 2008.01.08 03:17:00 - [33] Edited by: Taco Perez on 08/01/2008 03:18:59 caveat emptor remember, you're trusting this month and a half old character in a corp named "Mother of all Yarrs" and his month old alt with your cash. He's already admitted to doing this 3 times this week....
Aeronar Dremar	Posted - 2008.01.08 05:25:00 - [34] Originally by: Taco Perez Edited by: Taco Perez on 08/01/2008 03:18:59 caveat emptor remember, you're trusting this month and a half old character in a corp named "Mother of all Yarrs" and his month old alt with your cash. He's already admitted to doing this 3 times this week.... Yea...I won the bonus prize last time, and ya know what? I got it next day. This guy is true to his word. Good stuff here. Btw, I didn't mention it when I sent my isk, but I want caldari, like last time. Thanks again :)
Carthem Gallente Mother of all Yarrs	Posted - 2008.01.08 21:59:00 - [35] Edited by: Carthem on 08/01/2008 21:59:14 For those of you who aren't aware, Taco Perez was a flamer and very insistent of the fact that I out of ALL the lottos am, in fact, a scammer. I fought with logic and reason, and after proving him wrong, several times, I might add, he remained an ignoramus and refused to listen to reason. Rest assured though, game mods have been notified. It is people like you, Taco, who ruin the game for everyone else. To anyone else who thinks I am a scammer, please check my previous lottos and their winners. Or keep it to yourself. EDIT: Taco, I would appreciate it if you left my corp name out of it.
Mikal Drey ORIGIN SYSTEMS Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.09 09:36:00 - [36] I forgot to add. . Matari all the way if im lucky enough :) Many Thanks
Taco Perez	Posted - 2008.01.09 10:18:00 - [37] Originally by: Carthem Edited by: Carthem on 08/01/2008 21:59:14 For those of you who aren't aware, Taco Perez was a flamer and very insistent of the fact that I out of ALL the lottos am, in fact, a scammer. I fought with logic and reason, and after proving him wrong, several times, I might add, he remained an ignoramus and refused to listen to reason. Rest assured though, game mods have been notified. It is people like you, Taco, who ruin the game for everyone else. To anyone else who thinks I am a scammer, please check my previous lottos and their winners. Or keep it to yourself. EDIT: Taco, I would appreciate it if you left my corp name out of it. I'm sure you'd like me to leave your corp name out of it. The reasons are obvious. As for proving me wrong, here's the logs - make your own judgements: --------------------------------------------------------------- Channel ID: 2127411667 Channel Name: Private Chat (Carthem) Listener: Taco Perez Session started: 2008.01.07 23:04:53 --------------------------------------------------------------- [ 2008.01.07 23:05:17 ] Carthem > okay [ 2008.01.07 23:05:18 ] Carthem > so [ 2008.01.07 23:05:37 ] Carthem > if everyone who signed up is legit [ 2008.01.07 23:05:49 ] Carthem > which you have admitted, then it must not be a scam [ 2008.01.07 23:06:15 ] Carthem > Obviously, because I can not tamper with the UK lotto, it must be real [ 2008.01.07 23:06:28 ] Taco Perez > wtf? How did I admit everyone is legit? [ 2008.01.07 23:06:42 ] Carthem > okay [ 2008.01.07 23:06:44 ] Carthem > message any of them [ 2008.01.07 23:06:54 ] Taco Perez > give me one that WON something [ 2008.01.07 23:07:02 ] Carthem > we agree, that I cant have 10+ accounts, correct? [ 2008.01.07 23:07:09 ] Carthem > fine! [ 2008.01.07 23:07:17 ] Taco Perez > not at all I know people that have that many for research [ 2008.01.07 23:07:28 ] Carthem > Cambarus and Aeronar Dremar [ 2008.01.07 23:07:40 ] Carthem > oh [ 2008.01.07 23:07:51 ] Carthem > so Im paying 150+ a month [ 2008.01.07 23:08:01 ] Taco Perez > sheesh dude you aren't that stupid [ 2008.01.07 23:08:08 ] Carthem > for at most 294 mil [ 2008.01.07 23:08:11 ] Carthem > a lotto [ 2008.01.07 23:08:34 ] Taco Perez > gtcs [ 2008.01.07 23:08:38 ] Carthem > what? [ 2008.01.07 23:09:03 ] Carthem > oh [ 2008.01.07 23:09:11 ] Carthem > okay [ 2008.01.07 23:09:19 ] Carthem > so I pay 2bil a month [ 2008.01.07 23:09:26 ] Carthem > for a maximum return of 294m a lotto [ 2008.01.07 23:09:48 ] Carthem > makes sense? [ 2008.01.07 23:10:15 ] Taco Perez > dude, you cannot prove in any way that your stuff is legit [ 2008.01.07 23:10:30 ] Carthem > I would have to do [ 2008.01.07 23:10:56 ] Taco Perez > there IS no lotto in eve, no way to verify assets or anything - you are asking us to trust you [ 2008.01.07 23:11:05 ] Carthem > LOL [ 2008.01.07 23:11:12 ] Carthem > I just did [ 2008.01.07 23:11:31 ] Carthem > I'm asking you to make a logical deciscion [ 2008.01.07 23:11:35 ] Carthem > look @ events forum [ 2008.01.07 23:11:43 ] Carthem > look @ how many lottos, and how many scams do you see? [ 2008.01.07 23:12:16 ] Taco Perez > I've seen enough people get fleeced [ 2008.01.07 23:12:33 ] Carthem > okay, then talk to the winners? [ 2008.01.07 23:13:08 ] Carthem > THEY certainly didnt get fleeced [ 2008.01.07 23:13:19 ] Taco Perez > that is assuming those TWO aren't your alts or other mains [ 2008.01.07 23:13:32 ] Taco Perez > there's no safety in the assumption and there's no proof either way [ 2008.01.07 23:13:39 ] Carthem > I cant rig it [ 2008.01.07 23:13:45 ] Carthem > because the numbers come from the UK national lottery [ 2008.01.07 23:13:47 ] Taco Perez > so, your trust based lotto is pre-rigged [ 2008.01.07 23:13:57 ] Carthem > I dont choose the numbers continued
Taco Perez	Posted - 2008.01.09 10:19:00 - [38] Edited by: Taco Perez on 09/01/2008 10:24:34 [ 2008.01.07 23:14:09 ] Carthem > the UK national lottery does [ 2008.01.07 23:14:11 ] Taco Perez > you don't have to, you can just indicate someone else got the # :) [ 2008.01.07 23:14:18 ] Carthem > how can it be pre rigged? lmao [ 2008.01.07 23:14:25 ] Taco Perez > "oh, gee you didn't win this time!" [ 2008.01.07 23:14:31 ] Carthem > you pick a ticket number [ 2008.01.07 23:14:34 ] Carthem > people would say something if I switched their numbers [ 2008.01.07 23:14:47 ] Carthem > people get to choose which number they want [ 2008.01.07 23:15:11 ] Carthem > its PUBLIC [ 2008.01.07 23:15:20 ] Carthem > for anyone to see [ 2008.01.07 23:15:49 ] Taco Perez > sigh [ 2008.01.07 23:16:21 ] Carthem > explain that away [ 2008.01.07 23:16:28 ] Taco Perez > I already have [ 2008.01.07 23:16:56 ] Carthem > when? [ 2008.01.07 23:16:59 ] Carthem > if I dont choose the winners [ 2008.01.07 23:17:03 ] Carthem > and they obviously arent my alts [ 2008.01.07 23:17:09 ] Carthem > and people didnt get fleeced [ 2008.01.07 23:17:42 ] Taco Perez > anyone can pin a lotto on the public number [ 2008.01.07 23:17:46 ] Taco Perez > [23:14:11] Taco Perez > you don't have to, you can just indicate someone else got the # :) [ 2008.01.07 23:18:36 ] Carthem > OMG [ 2008.01.07 23:18:40 ] Taco Perez > exactly [ 2008.01.07 23:18:43 ] Carthem > THE NUMBERS THAT PEOPLE GET ARE PUBLIC [ 2008.01.07 23:18:51 ] Carthem > THEY KNOW THEIR NUMBERS AND KNOW IF THEY WON [ 2008.01.07 23:19:10 ] Carthem > everyone gets assigned a number, and they know what it is [ 2008.01.07 23:20:16 ] Carthem > its not like its in the dark [ 2008.01.07 23:20:34 ] Carthem > brb, we can continue this argument on my alt [ 2008.01.07 23:20:46 ] Carthem > If you are gone, you assume defeat. [ 2008.01.07 23:20:54 ] Taco Perez > wtf I'm working [ 2008.01.07 23:21:23 ] Taco Perez > I pay attention to this game long enough to sell stuff etc [ 2008.01.07 23:21:51 ] Taco Perez > christ this lag is horrible - I admit no such thing as defeat and still challenge you to PROVE the legitimacy of the lotto [ 2008.01.07 23:22:15 ] Taco Perez > there's no ccp sanctioned ability to lotto leaving it open to the same exploits and scams as gtcs a year ago [ 2008.01.07 23:22:27 ] Taco Perez > until ccp has something sanctioned and valid, your lotto is a scam ====== for what its worth its not just you, Carthem. I was picking apart every lotto that came up while I was paying attention to the channel in the same way. Yours just fits the same modus operandi as all the old ones that were scams, tainting yours by the very fact that there IS no way to legitimize lottos in the game and the fact that some lottos in the past have been scams. IMO its up to you to PROVE the legitimacy - hiding behind a 1.5month old char and his 1 month old alt is utterly meaningless. Get BIG, Chribba or some other entity that has trustworthiness to handle it.
Chemical Castration Chemical Castration Lotto	Posted - 2008.01.09 11:04:00 - [39] Edited by: Chemical Castration on 09/01/2008 11:05:35 Taco Perez = idiot. If I'm wrong, I'll reward the winners of this lotto myself.
Niffetin Gallente CONsordium Infinate	Posted - 2008.01.09 11:34:00 - [40] Originally by: Chemical Castration Edited by: Chemical Castration on 09/01/2008 11:05:35 Taco Perez = idiot. If I'm wrong, I'll reward the winners of this lotto myself. What this man said. --- Teeheee!

Saithe Caldari Thanos and Killjoy Productions Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2008.01.09 11:55:00 - [41] Edited by: Saithe on 09/01/2008 11:56:46 Edited by: Saithe on 09/01/2008 11:56:25 Taco doesn't understand how lottos work. He thinks you can walk into a store, and ask for a free lotto ticket, then only pay if you win. Guys don't flame him! Its not his fault he is ignorantly r3t@rd3d!!! (ps screw you ccp and your stupid language filter)
Chemical Castration Chemical Castration Lotto	Posted - 2008.01.09 12:09:00 - [42] Originally by: Niffetin Originally by: Chemical Castration Edited by: Chemical Castration on 09/01/2008 11:05:35 Taco Perez = idiot. If I'm wrong, I'll reward the winners of this lotto myself. What this man said. This means I'm fully supporting this lotto. If the creator fails to pay out or turns out to be a scammer, (highly unlikely) I will take care of the winners. Please check the link in my signature, and then feel safe to bid. (New fancy sig coming soon) Info on current and past lottos
Saithe Caldari Thanos and Killjoy Productions Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2008.01.09 12:19:00 - [43] Edited by: Saithe on 09/01/2008 12:22:05 i was gonna sponsor this, but noone knows me ...yet =) vvvv_btw i love my sig_vvvv also, can someone tell me how to resize this with mspaint? i tried the properties, but it resized what was shown, not the whole image (cutting out alot of the comic)
Aeronar Dremar	Posted - 2008.01.09 20:41:00 - [44] Taco *****s me up, lol. I know carthem's legit, and so does everyone else that's won something. I'll continue to play, because I like his style. Thanks for your input, Taco, We'll file it away with Phil Collins, Pepsi One, and all the rest of the crap the world has chosen to forget.
Carthem Gallente Mother of all Yarrs	Posted - 2008.01.09 23:56:00 - [45] And our Grandprize winner is Aeronar Dremar...he won...AGAIN.... Anyway, congrats. Bonus prize winner is
Saithe Caldari Thanos and Killjoy Productions Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2008.01.10 00:07:00 - [46] oh poo i was one off =( Owing to lack of Eve-related content, signature removed. If you would like to discuss this, please mail [email protected] - Mitnal
Lindsay Fox	Posted - 2008.01.10 00:27:00 - [47] Originally by: Carthem And our Grandprize winner is Aeronar Dremar...he won...AGAIN.... Anyway, congrats. Bonus prize winner is Looks like Taco shot him before he could finish typing... Winning Number was 45 (fark!) Bonus winner was 8.Lucy Stratos(C) (If I have done it correctly, not 100% sure)
Carthem Gallente Mother of all Yarrs	Posted - 2008.01.10 00:39:00 - [48] Yeah. It was Taco's fault. Or my ADD . Anyway, yes it was Lucy and Aero(guys, get his tips. He's cheating somehow. ).
Carthem Gallente Mother of all Yarrs	Posted - 2008.01.10 00:44:00 - [49] Originally by: Taco Perez Originally by: Carthem Edited by: Carthem on 08/01/2008 21:59:14 For those of you who aren't aware, Taco Perez was a flamer and very insistent of the fact that I out of ALL the lottos am, in fact, a scammer. I fought with logic and reason, and after proving him wrong, several times, I might add, he remained an ignoramus and refused to listen to reason. Rest assured though, game mods have been notified. It is people like you, Taco, who ruin the game for everyone else. To anyone else who thinks I am a scammer, please check my previous lottos and their winners. Or keep it to yourself. EDIT: Taco, I would appreciate it if you left my corp name out of it. I'm sure you'd like me to leave your corp name out of it. The reasons are obvious. As a matter of fact, you are wrong. Obviously I don't care who knows my corp name because I have it selected to appear under my name. I just thought that it was irrelevant. As in to regards to the corp, they are the biggest gang of carebears as you will ever find . They are the greatest. Anyway, I thank you for drawing large attention to my thread. Thanks to all who backed me up. Chemical, I think I found a named mod that you can give away . Taco, how do you think "entities" such as BIG or Chribba came to be? They had to have started somewhere, and quite frankly I don't care for the way that you treat me as if I am untrustworthy. As I said before, if you don't want to trust me, fine. Your loss. But don't discourage other people because they have better common sense then you . Paranoia. You outta get that checked out
Lindsay Fox	Posted - 2008.01.10 01:15:00 - [50] I am actually now intrigued as to how Taco thinks this is a scam. The only way I can see is if Carthem is the one drawing the bonus ball every week. And if that were true, I doubt he'd be scamming an internet spaceship game :)

Aeronar Dremar	Posted - 2008.01.10 05:36:00 - [51] Prizes received in very short order :). Thanks again carthem. I'll sit the next one out, since that's two in a row now. Unless it's an industrial fleet :). Good luck folks :D
Lucy Stratos	Posted - 2008.01.10 21:53:00 - [52] Firstly a message to Taco i saw you flaming Carthem in Jita local and i saw him prove you worng a couple of times and now I`m gonna do the same because as you can see I WON the second prize in his FLOTTO and recived my winnings so as a few people have told you TACO=Idiot!!!!!!!!!!!! Now i would like to thank Carthem for running an honest and fair competition anyone who is reading this thread and thinking that he is just trying to scam people i can assure you he ain`t if your number comes up you WILL get your winnings without any hassel.Me personaly i will be entering his LOTTOS again and would gladly trust this guy with my ISK Thanks Carthem


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