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Ren Surkova
AirHawk Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.08 03:08:00 -
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Originally by: Requiescat
Corpie of mine killed 2 vagas solo in a Brutix today, I wish I pwned that hard
let me guess, kaileen
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Dapanman1
Amarr Beets and Gravy Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.01.08 07:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ernesto Hoost
Originally by: Ulstan I'm very glad that two battlecruisers and a battleship can kill a HAC.
Fixed for you.
You do know what the 'C' stands for, don't you?
Also, WTS sarcasm detector. Beets, you're among friends. |
Arekhon
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2008.01.08 07:48:00 -
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Originally by: Requiescat
Originally by: Omarvelous As for posting losses - yeah you gotta do that. Plus its still good for epeen if all your losses are when you're outnumbered...
Having a killboard without posting losses is kinda like punching a guy in the mouth and then forgetting to tell all your friends how he was unconscious at the time
damn thats funny..
Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap [BEES] |
Arekhon
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2008.01.08 07:54:00 -
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Originally by: sethfon
The kill! Vagabond T2
my little t1 hurricane
WTB T1 Vagabond (cause it has to be cheaper) WTB T2 Hurricane (this thing has to pwn)
no offense OP just picking on ya
Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap [BEES] |
twopointoh
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Posted - 2008.01.08 08:39:00 -
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Originally by: Arekhon WTB T1 Vagabond (cause it has to be cheaper)
Stabber :D
Originally by: Arekhon WTB T2 Hurricane (this thing has to pwn)
Future Command Ship? God I wish there was a T2 Hurricane. |
Arekhon
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2008.01.08 09:02:00 -
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Originally by: twopointoh
Originally by: Arekhon WTB T1 Vagabond (cause it has to be cheaper)
Stabber :D
watch for this one, he is quick
Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap [BEES] |
Setana Manoro
Gallente Firefly Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.08 09:54:00 -
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Originally by: Xaen Edited by: Xaen on 07/01/2008 19:26:39 Vagabond pilot was an idiot for engaging two battlecruisers solo.
You should have mauled him with just two hurricanes.
Anyway... congrats! Nice kill.
Edit: Just looked at the killmail. The flipping idiot had dual polycarbons. That means kinetic damage OMGWTFBBQs his shields.
Not that that should detract from the glory of bagging a vagabond at all, but I wouldn't be caught dead with no kinetic resist rig and trying to take on two heavier ships in my Vagabond without a little more finesse.
Must i tell you that you are looking like a flipping idiot here, or were you already told ?
First of all Vaga vs 2 Cane's can be a good fight, provided you don't get webbed - if you are the vaga. Second, Dual Polycarbons is the standard rigs for the speed-junkie vaga pilot that also wants some agility, not pure speed.
If you bought a Vaga just to kill shuttles and t1 frigs, then by all means go for it, but don't bash on the guys that have the pair to take on heavier ships in theirs ... you "flipping idiot".
Rifter is not X-Wing CCP. Trinity model kinda sucks. |
AIchemist
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2008.01.08 12:43:00 -
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Edited by: AIchemist on 08/01/2008 12:44:10
Originally by: Xaen I use dual polycarbons, and wouldn't have it any other way.
Anyone that knows anything... uses two polys carbons.
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Atreides Horza
No Fear Buccaneers
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Posted - 2008.01.08 13:03:00 -
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Edited by: Atreides Horza on 08/01/2008 13:02:59 On the topic of noobs in vagabonds, I thought it was already a well-established fact that giving a chicken a Ferrari won't save it from being at the bottom of the food chain.
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Shaemell Buttleson
Darwin With Attitude oooh Shiny
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Posted - 2008.01.08 13:24:00 -
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Originally by: Atreides Horza Edited by: Atreides Horza on 08/01/2008 13:02:59 On the topic of noobs in vagabonds, I thought it was already a well-established fact that giving a chicken a Ferrari won't save it from being at the bottom of the food chain.
QFT i've been part of a Vaga kill using Industrials and solo killed a vaga in a drake ffs!
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Nightmare Trooper
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Posted - 2008.01.08 14:12:00 -
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When i fly my vagabond, it goes about 6.5km/s (7.5 when in a gang and im set booster) and i adjust my orbit to ensure i am always more than 16 km (preferably 23km)(faction point....so usefull on a vaga) away from the nearest target, so he shouldent have been in range at all for web, if he got webbed, its his own fault and the young players in the hurricanes did good, somone who knew how to fly a Vaga wouldve kicked both the hurricanes asses and maybe even killed the raven, or wouldve at least escaped (killing depending on the pilots sp and fittings). And the day i see "noobs" with 15km webbers is a cold day in hell, so you mustve drifted within 10km of them, and when theres only two of them, thats fairly easy to avoid
Also two polycarbs kicks ass, it makes me able to allign almost as fast (in some cases faster) than a t1 frigate, so if it goes to s**t i can escape.
While i can see the benfits of the 1 extender rig, my style of play prefers polycarbs
To Sethfon, Gratz, to Requiescat (or whoever lost the vaga), s**t happens, they either won by luck, have more skill then they are letting on or you need to learn how to fly a vaga better
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Mavil
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Posted - 2008.01.08 14:55:00 -
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That's great, Nightmare Trooper. But it's not like your 6-7km/s will do you much good during the fight except for bursts (such as getting out of drone range and if they're closing on you). You can of course break a Cane's tank, but you can't break the tank of 2 at once without running out of shield, unless your opponents are utterly miserably horribly made purely out of failure and being a fitting catastrophe in general.
And give me a break, are you telling me you can kill Ravens in a vaga? Yeah right. (And no, 1 month old players in a BS don't count).
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Shaemell Buttleson
Darwin With Attitude oooh Shiny
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Posted - 2008.01.08 15:09:00 -
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Edited by: Shaemell Buttleson on 08/01/2008 15:09:48 It was because the numpty wouldnt do anything but orbit me I killed it in a drake.
Sure he was going fast but when I manually MWD'd thru a belt and he of course bumped not watching where he was flying about 3 salvos of caldari scourge hit him all at once and he was allready in 1/4 shield.
lesson #1 just coz your fast don't think orbiting will save you!
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Omarvelous
Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.01.08 15:58:00 -
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Originally by: Nightmare Trooper When i fly my vagabond, it goes about 6.5km/s (7.5 when in a gang and im set booster) and i adjust my orbit to ensure i am always more than 16 km (preferably 23km)(faction point....so usefull on a vaga) away from the nearest target...
How well do your Vulcan 220's hit the target orbiting that fast?! Most Vagabond pilots Ive fought, manually fly around adjusting between speeds and transvesal to hit me hard, and avoid getting hit back at just the right time (or I'm in the wrong ship and they just zoom in and hammer away). Just saying I don't see many Vagabond pilots orbiting - its usually manual flying, and I was wondering how well you hit your target. __________________________________________________ Sup brosef! Destry's Lounge is looking for a few good drunks - contact me in game.
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Nightmare Trooper
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Posted - 2008.01.08 15:58:00 -
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Ofc they dont count, but in this case, it seems like they are 1 month old noobs, and thats the context of which i was speaking, OF COURSE a vaga cant kill a proper raven, the DPS is no where near high enough when nanoed, and most drones die pretty fast when hit with 5 warrior IIs, and also concidering 6/7kms OUTRUNS nearly all drones, the AI on drones is no where NEAR good enough atm to seriously harm a vagabond |
Ghost Nightmare
Sons of Damnation
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Posted - 2008.01.08 16:21:00 -
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Edited by: Ghost Nightmare on 08/01/2008 16:24:24 Kickass kill, always good to see new players fighting back
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Mavil
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Posted - 2008.01.08 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Nightmare Trooper Ofc they dont count, but in this case, it seems like they are 1 month old noobs, and thats the context of which i was speaking, OF COURSE a vaga cant kill a proper raven, the DPS is no where near high enough when nanoed, and most drones die pretty fast when hit with 5 warrior IIs, and also concidering 6/7kms OUTRUNS nearly all drones, the AI on drones is no where NEAR good enough atm to seriously harm a vagabond
Ah ok, glad to hear you're realistic. Too many people make out the vaga to be some sort of win-mobile, when it's in fact just a good ship which earns it reputation because it can pick its fights very well.
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Nightmare Trooper
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Posted - 2008.01.08 16:54:00 -
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yeh, lots of people complain about it being overpowered, when actually its dps is fairly easy to ignore |
Jacob Castillo
Caldari Copperhead Inc. Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.08 20:11:00 -
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Originally by: Nightmare Trooper To Sethfon, Gratz, to Requiescat (or whoever lost the vaga), s**t happens, they either won by luck, have more skill then they are letting on or you need to learn how to fly a vaga better
It's not hard to kill good vagabond pilots in a BC, specifically a hurricane. I've done it enough times to be able to lock one down easy enough, and rip it to shreds.
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Nightmare Trooper
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Posted - 2008.01.08 20:19:00 -
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2 T1 Hurricanes piloted by low SP players would have alot of difficulty, as in the context i was referring too |
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Sirex007
Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2008.01.08 20:21:00 -
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"when we where in gauged"
win \o/ :)
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sethfon
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Posted - 2008.01.08 20:39:00 -
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This is good reading on how people feel about new players and vagabonds in there rolls it plays in the game.
Being a noob i thought a vaga was going to kill us. When we kill him we where happy!
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Foocurr
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Posted - 2008.01.08 21:45:00 -
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Well, it looks like CCP did nerf speed in an ultra stealth patch last night. Kudos to the hurricane pilot and tough luck for the unsuspecting vagabond. Damn you CCP for finally nerfing nano-ships! Damn you!
Oh well, at least we don't have to whine about that anymore. On to armor tanking. Nerf armor tanking!!! - **Thread Response System** A - Unnecessary whine. Please Adapt. B - Some or all of your opinions are incorrect. C - Thread already exists. D - You are correct. |
Shaemell Buttleson
Darwin With Attitude oooh Shiny
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Posted - 2008.01.09 12:01:00 -
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what patch?
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Setana Manoro
Gallente Firefly Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.09 12:37:00 -
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Originally by: Shaemell Buttleson what patch?
Don't mind him, i think he's just being stupid. When i saw what he wrote, i checked SISI - no changes, and TQ - no changes. So he must be stupid.
Rifter is not X-Wing CCP. Trinity model kinda sucks. |
Lil'Red Ridin'Hood
Snake Assault
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Posted - 2008.01.09 12:47:00 -
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Originally by: sethfon Just trying to make it right! I will take my punishment!
20 lashes with wipe!
Now, on to the important question: Wet or dry wipe?
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Cpt Branko
The Bloody Red
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Posted - 2008.01.09 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: Setana Manoro
First of all Vaga vs 2 Cane's can be a good fight, provided you don't get webbed - if you are the vaga.
It's unwinnable if the Hurricanes have T2 guns. Barrage M goes both ways.
Versus one? Yeah, can be a good fight, although my money is on the Hurricane surviving if he has decent skills for the Hurricane, and, of course, T2 guns.
Rifters!
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Nightmare Trooper
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Posted - 2008.01.09 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko
Originally by: Setana Manoro
First of all Vaga vs 2 Cane's can be a good fight, provided you don't get webbed - if you are the vaga.
It's unwinnable if the Hurricanes have T2 guns. Barrage M goes both ways.
Versus one? Yeah, can be a good fight, although my money is on the Hurricane surviving if he has decent skills for the Hurricane, and, of course, T2 guns.
yeh, but as stated above they are both t1 |
Mista Biz
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Posted - 2008.01.10 22:01:00 -
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Originally by: Setana Manoro
Originally by: Shaemell Buttleson what patch?
Don't mind him, i think he's just being stupid. When i saw what he wrote, i checked SISI - no changes, and TQ - no changes. So he must be stupid.
Troll 1 you 0
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Hellown
Blackguard Brigade
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Posted - 2008.01.11 05:21:00 -
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First off. dual polycarbs=win :D second, the vaga pilot must of messed up so hard. I'd be guessing he got in web range, which as all vaga pilots know, is an Epic fail.
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