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Midas Man
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Posted - 2008.01.08 11:36:00 -
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 Originally by: Tzar'rim
If you want to get even with the person that did this to you, grab a mirror. You went into hostile space, unprepared, unknown of the rules and tricks and then when things go wrong (was just a matter of time) you poitn at anyone but yourself and start frothing at the mouth.
Sorry to be harsh but the only one to blame is you, you got killed because you didn't put in effort NOT to get killed.
ERM try to read the post before abusing the poor guy, If you reread it he is very aware of his mistakes in going to Low sec, His post was about Getting even with the guy, Not to complain about the fact he got Blasted.
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Midas Man
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Posted - 2008.01.08 13:11:00 -
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If that be the case please can you explain why he has been granted a kill right. Surely if it is acceptable for a pirate to kill anyone in Low Sec, then it is acceptable for those people to retaliate.
Everyone is entitled to revenge weather they were killed by there own ignorance/lack of knowledge. If I saw a -5 or below security status dude in High Sec and opened fire and killed him I wouldn't begrudge him hunting me down and killing me in low sec.
And i certainly would not Flame him for effort because I believe he has every right to.
That just IMO, if it the OP's fault why didn't CCP grant Kill rights to the OP against the OP. Maybe you should petition it and see what there responce is, but I assume it would be along the lines of "This is intended game mechanics"
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Midas Man
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Posted - 2008.01.08 13:13:00 -
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Apologies for going slightly off Topic, but to bring it back on Topic, you could try recruiting Help from any number of AntiPirate Corps I'm sure they would love to help in your Quest for Revenge
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Midas Man
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Posted - 2008.01.08 13:31:00 -
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That is a more reasonable post.
Using your example.
What if you were rightly P***ed off with the big bully boy and thought I know I will go back to my Neighbourhood, enlist help from some Matial Arts Experts and go back and wipe the floor with him and his fellow bully boys.
Now reread the OP or just the title of the post. I'm sure unless I am mistaken the guy is trying to get revenge.
OP trains for a year and feels strong enough to get revenge. except the pirate has also had a year to train to become stronger thats assuming the pirate is still playing eve and if he is not then the chance of getting revenge has just become impossible.
To the OP, Ignore the comments of this Pirate, Like all pirates he beleive because CCP allow Piracy that he can spoil the game for any new player without fear of retaliation. And when someone like yourself feels that revenge would be sweet, has to Flame you and try to put you off the idea as he is scared of what help you may enlist. Like all pirates when you even the fight up will run and hide in a station and play with there alt for a while till you get bored.
Some Pirates they dont even desearve the name they try to use for themselves. Go watch some Pirate movies or read some Pirate books, Im sure pirates are ment to use guile, stealth and intellegence to gain advantage not Overwhelming numbers or to only fight those that are unmatched to fight back.
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Midas Man
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Posted - 2008.01.08 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: Tzar'rim
Edited by: Tzar''rim on 08/01/2008 14:38:08
I think you kinda misunderstood it all. EVE is a harsh game, it's not a pleasant happyhappy game. Making mistakes in EVE HURTS.
OP comes to the forums for help on something that simply won't work, in fact all that will happen is that it detracts his focus from what he SHOULD be doing. I simply relay the rules of EVE... replying as EVE would, and since EVE is a harsh environtment, my replies won't be comforting.
As to your other speculations and generalisations, I just have to laugh at that. Things are never black or white, they're mostly grey. But you're entitled to your thoughts ofcourse.
Not Misunderstood at all.
And your quite right Eve is a Harsh Place, So why shouldn't it be harsh for pirates too.
Bear in mind this is a game - from the comments the OP has made I feel he wants revenge (If that how he wants to play who are you to talk him out of it) He never once stated "I Will go and get revenge on this pirate alone" i'm sure he is intellegent enougth to realise that isn't the way to do things. What he is doing Is trying to get help to administer that revenge It would be more posative to him and his future career to allow him to play the game the way he wants to not how you beleive he should.
Who is to say he wasn't podded by a noob and his noob mate less than 1 month old still learning the ropes of piracy in which case he maybe well equipped already to go solo and take them out if he finds them alone.
For the greater good of Eve we need to encourage all players to play how they want so they don't get bored of playing "your" way and leave because they feel "trapped" in a game they cannot play the way they would like to. I'm sure if he wanted to Handheld and told what to do he wouldn't be here and would probably be playing WOW.
Again IMO
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Midas Man
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Posted - 2008.01.08 15:32:00 -
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Yes lets let it rest.
But he also seem more attuned than you as he is willing to follow his own goals and not be dictated to on the way he should play after all this is a game not a jail sentance.
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Midas Man
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Posted - 2008.01.08 16:38:00 -
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LOLZ
hehe you have a warped imagination.
oh wait no you haven't
I just remembered a quote
CCP "There are some charactors we have locked in a cage. Under no circumstance should any new player go into the cage. The cage is off limits to all but a select few. These select few can tell any new player to go nowhere near there cage and they should stay in High Sec forever because they will never be equal to Lions in the cage in terms of both skill points and playing skill. Any Player that ventures into Low Sec and tries to retaliate to a previous kill shall have there account Banned as this game has no element of PvP. All new players should realise they are cannon fodder for Older Players and should leave them be forever and should under no circumstances attack someone who has killed them in Low Sec. They should train and train untill such a time they realise they will never catch the older player, in terms of SP total or there Skill as a pilot due to playing the game for less time, At which point the said new player should quit the game and never come back. Any older player found trying to get new players to play the way they want should also be Banned as it will mak it harder for the Lions"
I'm sure CCP didn't quote that or anything along those lines but it seems to me this is what you believe.
CCP do give a warning when entering Low Sec but i don't recall it say anything about never trying to fight back.
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Midas Man
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Posted - 2008.01.08 16:55:00 -
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Sorry for using your post to Flame the dude Felix, just winds me up how some players try to turn newer players away from the joys of PvP.
Play how you like if you need help with revenge on those pirates convo me there name and i'll see if our corp can help in anyway, unless there BoB like in size i think it would be good hunting.
You dont require skills or training to get even, all you need is Determination and and like minded people.
Remember Pirates cause problems for lots of people so even if you cannot personally fight back or cannot afford to pay a merc corp. There maybe someone with a vendetta against the same guy and would take pride and enjoyment from repeatedly podding them.
Good look hunting.
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