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Vasik1000	Posted - 2008.01.09 15:16:00 - [1] Recently a Heavy Interdictor class ships were introduced. Due to this the blockade runners became almost useless, precious skillpoints are wasted. Nerf the heavy interdictors or boost blockade runners - that is the question.
Scagga Laebetrovo Delictum 23216	Posted - 2008.01.09 15:19:00 - [2] Nonsense. There isn't a heavy interdictor guarding every gate. San Matari Official forums
Krollin Minmatar Ki Shoda	Posted - 2008.01.09 15:50:00 - [3] I agree, The bloackade runner still has its part to play, and as stated there isnt a Heavy Interdictor at every gate. In my mind it is still a great ship Kro
Shaemell Buttleson Darwin With Attitude oooh Shiny	Posted - 2008.01.09 15:54:00 - [4] Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo Nonsense. There isn't a heavy interdictor guarding every gate. Yet!
Eleana Tomelac Gallente Through the Looking Glass	Posted - 2008.01.09 16:05:00 - [5] Originally by: Shaemell Buttleson Yet! This guy is right, pirates begin to equip with them and will be camping gates again to catch the unaware of the power of the HIC scrambler making their warpcore useless. It pretty much destroys courrier missions ot moving assets in lowsec, running back to the gate is sometimes harder than what was warping with warpcores before. -- Pocket drone carriers (tm) enthousiast ! Assault Frigates MK II
WattIsWacken Minmatar Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.01.09 17:04:00 - [6] Edited by: WattIsWacken on 09/01/2008 17:05:47 wrong! blockage runners can warp faster then most intercepters can lock. just set em up right. they are not ment to carry like 20k m¦ anyway + HICs have low sensor resolution and take allot longer to target a ship than you think they do. ------------- [VIDEO] LOL
Shaemell Buttleson Darwin With Attitude oooh Shiny	Posted - 2008.01.09 17:49:00 - [7] I'm surprised a Veto member hasn't heard of sensor boosters. In all seriouseness though they have such low skill point requirments so everyone and their dog will be using them who camp gates but this problem is just in lowsec it will be worse in 0.0 chokepoints where you just bubble up using HIC's or the old Interdictors. Personally I think the bonus for shield boosting and armour repairing should be scrapped and they all have a bonus which makes them imune to any sort of bubble leaving the only option available to catch them is by fast locking tacklers such as interdictors or sensor boosted larger ships. I'm not moaning about them coz I don't fly them but I do think they are pretty much obsolete now especially since the T2 Freighters are going to be commonplace.
WattIsWacken Minmatar Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.01.09 18:47:00 - [8] Edited by: WattIsWacken on 09/01/2008 18:47:37 Originally by: Shaemell Buttleson I'm surprised a Veto member hasn't heard of sensor boosters. you need 3 sensor boosters to even come close to the sensor res of an interceptor. add response time of the HIC Pilot and module lag to that and you are pretty much safe 99% of the time when u travel through lowsec. ------------- [VIDEO] LOL
Digital Anarchist Minmatar	Posted - 2008.01.09 19:30:00 - [9] I'm surprised a Veto member hasn't heard of remote sensor booster. ------------------------ This space for rent
joshmorris Silver Snake Enterprise SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.09 20:52:00 - [10] Fit a mwd ? u can go like 2k m/s out of the hic range then warp. Uber idea solves all !!
Ghreymar LaNayeur	Posted - 2008.01.09 21:12:00 - [11] god, these threads are the most annoying thing ever. Any pirate knows that as soon as these guys see a pirate gatecamp they do the mwd+cloak insta jump. unless the pilot **s up they are unkillable. the ONLY reasons that pirate gatecamps are using HICS is that theyre tougher than the Lachesises we used to use, and can catch all those stab monkey battleships that we used to miss. you no longer need to get 8 points onto some battleships to catch them, which was just ridiculous. blockade runners are still invulnerable to us unless they somehow ** up.
Khorin D'tael Caldari D'tael Contracts	Posted - 2008.01.09 22:36:00 - [12] Originally by: joshmorris Fit a mwd ? u can go like 2k m/s out of the hic range then warp. what a good idea. It's just as well no HIC pilot would think about fitting a mwd as well!
Demona Diabolicus Minmatar	Posted - 2008.01.10 21:12:00 - [13] Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo Nonsense. There isn't a heavy interdictor guarding every gate. Nonsense. There doesn't have to be heavy interdictor at every gate, since it's just enough to have one on your way. I think that the heavy interdictors "bubble" and other warp bubbles should have warp scramble strength aswell and if you have enough warp core stabilizers you are immune to those scrambling effects. And I believe that warp core stabilizer II-s should have warp scramble strength -2.
Kilostream Caldari Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.10 21:56:00 - [14] Jeez - throw the pirates a bone! They deserve a break - since your hauler full of whatever is already 100% cast-iron guaranteed gatecamp-proof, providing you take the step of getting a scout to trailbreak for you. If you can't be bothered to do that, then frankly you are either admitting you can afford the loss and aren't fussed, or you're lazy. Whichever is the case, a half decent scout can report a camp and get himself safe whilst blockade runner (or whatever) docks/cloaks/gets safe without ever jumping in. It's then a matter of waiting it out, or getting the scout to trailbreak an alternative route. With a modicum of effort you can already deny these guys profit - "infinipoints" are irrelevant when you don't give them a target to use it on! Failure to put in this small amount of effort certainly does not give you any sort of moral high-ground to ask that blockade runners get minus-infinity-and-one warp strength to beat the infinipoint, not only because you don't deserve a get-out-of-jail-free card, but mathematically I'm not sure how that would work anyway!
Andreya Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2008.01.11 01:42:00 - [15] Originally by: Vasik1000 Recently a Heavy Interdictor class ships were introduced. Due to this the blockade runners became almost useless, precious skillpoints are wasted. Nerf the heavy interdictors or boost blockade runners - that is the question. eve is not safe. go play The Sims or something _________________________________________________________ Only once you've lost everything, are you free to do anything.
Kirika Misono War by Proxy	Posted - 2008.01.11 18:38:00 - [16] Or just have a pal with a carrier jump in and flush the HIC out? I havn't seen a lot of them thayt can stand up to 1k dps very well. And most carriers can be hidiously tanked BEFORE the triage gizmo kicks on... Originally by: Clementina If you bug report it, you get ignored. If you post about it on the forums, you get banned. If you exploit it, you get rich.
Westly Synpa GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.11 18:51:00 - [17] stop being lazy and invest in a jump freighter for your corp.
Reggie Stoneloader Teikoku Trade Conglomerate Visions of Warfare	Posted - 2008.01.11 19:55:00 - [18] The message here is, "No, Blockade Runners aren't obsolete, you just have to fly a different ship, or use a tactic that has nothing to do with their role bonus, some of which cost a billion isk or more." Terrific. Crusades: Security Status
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2008.01.12 01:08:00 - [19] Originally by: WattIsWacken Edited by: WattIsWacken on 09/01/2008 18:47:37 Originally by: Shaemell Buttleson I'm surprised a Veto member hasn't heard of sensor boosters. you need 3 sensor boosters to even come close to the sensor res of an interceptor. add response time of the HIC Pilot and module lag to that and you are pretty much safe 99% of the time when u travel through lowsec. Lag generally hit way harder the one jumping in a system than the one camping a gate.
WattIsWacken Minmatar Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.01.12 02:13:00 - [20] Quote: Lag generally hit way harder the one jumping in a system than the one camping a gate. you jump in, hold cloak till the system loads, then warp to 0. ------------- [VIDEO] LOL
Reggie Stoneloader Teikoku Trade Conglomerate Visions of Warfare	Posted - 2008.01.12 06:30:00 - [21] Lag favors the target, since you don't uncloak until the warp command is processed, that's true. But it's not too difficult to catch targets at a gate, and if a few classes (interceptor, fast frigs, Blockade Runners, NanoHACs) are immune or highly resistant to conventional gatecamping tactics, then so be it. A pair of smartbombing battleships can get him at the next gate if they time it right. Crusades: Security Status

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