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Gaernan Vaqar	Posted - 2008.01.09 18:30:00 - [1] Edited by: Gaernan Vaqar on 09/01/2008 18:30:56 Edited by: Gaernan Vaqar on 09/01/2008 18:30:50 $14.95 = ú7.95 ú14.95 = ú29.33 Ç19.95 = $29.26 I think it's quite unfair that we in the UK and Europe pay twice the amount of money for our eve subscriptions than Americans do, I'm currently playing the trial account and this seriously makes me reconsider continuing to play the game.
Matalino Gallente Ki Tech Industries	Posted - 2008.01.09 18:34:00 - [2] GTC? Or would you prefer that they peg the price to the icelandic ISK and let you guess what your next months subscription will be?
Gaernan Vaqar	Posted - 2008.01.09 18:38:00 - [3] Oh man leeching the EU players for twice the money and twice the profit in the global market is something I should totally be flamed for. Heaven forbid I want to get my timecards from the most legitimate source: I.E. the god damn games website.
Faierok	Posted - 2008.01.09 18:50:00 - [4] unfortunately exchange rates change, frequently. Your list could change next month and be even higher or lower. They have to set a mark somewhere for payment, what the global currency does is not something they control. It wasnt long ago that the American dollar was converted to 9 mexican peso's and now I believe that I can get 11 peso's per 1 dollar. Times change, adapt and move on.
Matalino Gallente Ki Tech Industries	Posted - 2008.01.09 18:52:00 - [5] Most people have a fixed income dispite how much the world's currencies fluxuate. CCP could have picked one currency and left it at that. It might have helped CCP's revenues if they had simply stuck with the Euro and charaged everyone everywhere Ç14.95, but then how many people would have quit because the costs would have climbed out of their budget. CCP could have choosen the dollar as the standard for their price, but had the euro weakened instead of the dollar, the problem would be the same, only reversing who suffered. As it is you can subscribe using which ever of the two is most local to your economy, or you can purchase GTC's using which ever currency you prefer.
Xiaodown Dragons Of Redemption Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.09 18:58:00 - [6] Two things, man. 1.) VAT. 2.) While it may be true that I can purchase an eve subscription for less than someone who uses Euros or Pounds Sterling, in almost every other conceivable way, the rapidly falling value of my currency is causing a lot of problems for people in America. Thank god my eve subscription costs less than someone from the UK! -- Listen to BoB Radio! I DJ sometimes!
Estel Arador Minmatar AFK	Posted - 2008.01.09 19:18:00 - [7] (A) You are ill-informed. Where did you get the Ç19.95 figure? It's only Ç14.95/month. (B) The Euro price is a bit higher than the non-EU price because of VAT. (C) The dollar price is a bit lower than it should be because the dollar has been dropping like a rock and the prices haven't been adjusted for that. (That's right, EU people are not paying too much, non-EU people are paying too little.) =AFK=
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2008.01.09 20:18:00 - [8] Originally by: Estel Arador (A) You are ill-informed. Where did you get the Ç19.95 figure? It's only Ç14.95/month. (B) The Euro price is a bit higher than the non-EU price because of VAT. (C) The dollar price is a bit lower than it should be because the dollar has been dropping like a rock and the prices haven't been adjusted for that. (That's right, EU people are not paying too much, non-EU people are paying too little.) the dollor might be droping but I still only make 8$ an hour as is normal in the US. isn't 8 euro a normal per hour over there? pink supporter! Future art director at CCP! or texture guy, either or :P http://www.digipen.edu/main/Gallery_Games_2004#Narbacular_Drop Was in class with these folks :P
Falkrich Swifthand Caldari eNinjas Incorporated	Posted - 2008.01.09 20:36:00 - [9] Originally by: Gaernan Vaqar $14.95 = ú7.95 ú14.95 = ú29.33 Ç19.95 = $29.26 I think it's quite unfair that we in the UK and Europe pay twice the amount of money for our eve subscriptions than Americans do, I'm currently playing the trial account and this seriously makes me reconsider continuing to play the game. It's: $14.95 or Ç14.95, I'm fairly sure there's no ú price. IIRC the Ç price includes 15% tax, and the $ one doesn't. The $ price is still a bit outdated now though, I'd expect it to be more like $19 now. I'm english and pay in Ç, which show up on my bank statement in ú. I paid ~ú11/month when I paid monthly, but now I pay 3-monthly so it costs about ú9.50/month. nullnull
Estel Arador Minmatar AFK	Posted - 2008.01.09 20:58:00 - [10] Originally by: MotherMoon the dollor might be droping but I still only make 8$ an hour as is normal in the US. isn't 8 euro a normal per hour over there? What you earn is irrelevant. Things don't get cheaper if you earn less, or more expensive if you earn more. Fact is, as the dollar is dropping, it will comparatively be more expensive to buy stuff in/from Europe (or elsewhere) for Americans. (And in case you hadn't noticed yet, CCP is an European company providing a service in Europe which you pay for.) =AFK=
BartMancuso	Posted - 2008.01.09 21:34:00 - [11] So let me get this straight.... When the dollar is up.. yaay the Americans' are getting screwed... and when the dollar is down.... BOOOO the Americans' are getting what we used to get.... For 25+ years America has been at a negitive trade deficit to the rest of the world. Finally we get the reverse and you feel like you are getting mistreated?
Estel Arador Minmatar AFK	Posted - 2008.01.09 22:08:00 - [12] Originally by: BartMancuso So let me get this straight.... When the dollar is up.. yaay the Americans' are getting screwed... and when the dollar is down.... BOOOO the Americans' are getting what we used to get.... For 25+ years America has been at a negitive trade deficit to the rest of the world. Finally we get the reverse and you feel like you are getting mistreated? Who are you replying to? I don't think anyone brought up the trade deficit yet and I'm not sure how it is relevant. =AFK=
jahlmeen	Posted - 2008.01.09 23:34:00 - [13] Originally by: CCP 8.1 What is the monthly subscription fee? Subscription rates for credit card users: Europe Cost/month* Total cost* 1-month-plan Ç 14.95 Ç 14.95 3-month-plan Ç 12.95 Ç 38.85 6-month-plan Ç 11.95 Ç 71.70 12-month-plan Ç 10.95 Ç 131.40 * VAT included Outside Europe Cost/month Total cost 1-month-plan $ 14.95 $ 14.95 3-month-plan $ 12.95 $ 38.85 6-month-plan $ 11.95 $ 71.70 12-month-plan $ 10.95 $ 131.40 A years subscription in $: 836.69*1,15 = 962 In Ç: 1231
Katie Bourne Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2008.01.09 23:45:00 - [14] Actually, They charge what people will pay for. Star Wars Galaxies in the United States is 15 bucks a month, WOW is 15 bucks a month, most MMO's in the United States is $15 a month. If they charged the Euro Equivelant they would risk US customers going to a different MMO, or lose potential customer who might have signed up but found it was too expensive. The reason why they charge what they do is to be competitive with the pricing of other MMO's. The prices they charge the Europeans is probably comprable to what is charged for other MMO's offered in Europe. IF they offered this is Mexico they would probably charge a price thats competitive with other MMO's in Mexico and so on. A product is only worth what a customer will pay for it anyways. Hey, come over to America it rocks here and you can play Eve for less =============================================== Federation Navy Lieutenant "Protecting Gallente Citizens one pirate ship at a time"
NightF0x Gallente Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.01.09 23:53:00 - [15] First off, use Eve-search.com and find the Dev posts from the 5 million other 'europeans are getting screwed' threads. Secondly, when CCP set the prices it was nearly 5 years ago. The Dollar and Euro were pretty close to each other then. The difference between the two came pretty close to the cost of the VAT that Europe has to pay. It was decided to charge the same and that price hasn't changed since. No one is paying more or less than someone else. It's the value of the currency when compared together that makes it seem so.
BartMancuso	Posted - 2008.01.10 00:07:00 - [16] Quote: Who are you replying to? I don't think anyone brought up the trade deficit yet and I'm not sure how it is relevant. The trade deficit is the point... it is the diference between what we get for selling to/from one country or another. When our dollar is high and we sell to a lower valued currency econimic region, we lose money. And vice versa. The diference now is that Europe and Asia are beginning to be the losing trading partner. Chances are after the 2008 elections it will reverse to it's prior state and America will be the losing partner once again so no one has anything to be worried about and the rest of the world can celebrate America taking the loss once again.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2008.01.10 00:14:00 - [17] Originally by: Estel Arador Originally by: MotherMoon the dollor might be droping but I still only make 8$ an hour as is normal in the US. isn't 8 euro a normal per hour over there? What you earn is irrelevant. Things don't get cheaper if you earn less, or more expensive if you earn more. Fact is, as the dollar is dropping, it will comparatively be more expensive to buy stuff in/from Europe (or elsewhere) for Americans. (And in case you hadn't noticed yet, CCP is an European company providing a service in Europe which you pay for.) what I earn is 100% relevant. If I spend 2 hours of minimum wage to play a game and you pay 2 hours of minimum wage to play a game we both work just as hard and just as much to play eve. right? or do you want ammericans to pay 4 hours of work instead? because I won't pay 240 bucks for my 1 year sub. and no one in there right mind is going to pay 30 buck to play an online game. pink supporter! Future art director at CCP! or texture guy, either or :P http://www.digipen.edu/main/Gallery_Games_2004#Narbacular_Drop Was in class with these folks :P
Vikarion Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.01.10 02:07:00 - [18] Could I point out that you are not entitled to the same price others get? CCP provides a product (sorta), to you, the consumer of said product. You may choose to use or not use the product, at your discretion. Just because they offer another price on another continent does not entitle anyone to the same price elsewhere. The world is unfair. If you hadn't noticed that already, you may want to start studying some other areas...such as Africa...where people have much more to worry about than MMORPG subscriptions. Please learn to have a little perspective. I use CrumpleCorn(tm) Sigs, because they (and he) are awesome!
Kessiaan	Posted - 2008.01.10 02:26:00 - [19] Short answer: Life's not fair. Get used to it. You should already be used it, you play Eve after all. Longer answer: It's CCP's game, they can charge whatever the hell they want, and they have reasons they've explained plenty of times in other threads as to why they charge what they do. Try doing a forum search. ----- My in Eve Profile My BattleClinic Page
Estel Arador Minmatar AFK	Posted - 2008.01.10 07:33:00 - [20] Originally by: BartMancuso The trade deficit is the point... it is the diference between what we get for selling to/from one country or another. When our dollar is high and we sell to a lower valued currency econimic region, we lose money. And vice versa. The diference now is that Europe and Asia are beginning to be the losing trading partner. Chances are after the 2008 elections it will reverse to it's prior state and America will be the losing partner once again so no one has anything to be worried about and the rest of the world can celebrate America taking the loss once again. You're talking about whole countries, this thread is about individual customers and a single company. =AFK=
Estel Arador Minmatar AFK	Posted - 2008.01.10 07:34:00 - [21] Originally by: MotherMoon what I earn is 100% relevant. If I spend 2 hours of minimum wage to play a game and you pay 2 hours of minimum wage to play a game we both work just as hard and just as much to play eve. right? Not right, no. The income CCP gets from subscriptions has to cover CCPs costs. Most of CCPs costs are in isk/euro. If the dollar drops too far and CCP does not adjust the prices, at some point they won't be able to cover the costs. How long you have to work at minimum wage to pay for it has nothing to do with it (and minimum wage isn't the same everywhere, should CCP set the prices per country?) =AFK=
Den enjen Caldari Red Dwarf Mining Corporation space weaponry and trade	Posted - 2008.01.10 08:29:00 - [22] Edited by: Den enjen on 10/01/2008 08:29:30 Buy GTC's. The current euro / dollar exchange rates are very good. I buy a 30 day GTC for about 11 euro. -------------------------------------------- Wife builing baby level
Eleana Tomelac Gallente Through the Looking Glass	Posted - 2008.01.10 09:14:00 - [23] Originally by: Den enjen Edited by: Den enjen on 10/01/2008 08:29:30 Buy GTC's. The current euro / dollar exchange rates are very good. I buy a 30 day GTC for about 11 euro. Or pay for a longer time? 6 months is not far from that. (larger GTC might be cheaper, so what I say is maybe stupid) I wouldn't mind paying directly in icelandic currency (just not to say isk because people would mistake), in fact, you send euros and it gets converted, at least that's what my bank tells me. Then it would be all the same for everyone, the VAT for europe would be added over this and it's cool. I don't pay for other online game, what others do, what currency you pay in? -- Pocket drone carriers (tm) enthousiast ! Assault Frigates MK II
Rjaiajik Kajvoril Amarr Autonomous Systems	Posted - 2008.01.10 11:17:00 - [24] See... I have the solution. I pay with an American credit card in dollars, it's cheaper. I'm British. Sorted. RickRoll Avoidance Trolling EVE Knowledge

CCP Navigator C C P	Posted - 2008.01.10 11:42:00 - [25] This thread bears no relevance to New Citizens Q&A. Locked. Navigator, Community Representative EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang


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