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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8972
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Posted - 2012.02.09 19:26:00 -
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Kelduum RevaanGÇö
You are hereby challenged to a series of seven Lincoln-Douglas styled debates, which I believe should be publicized as widely as is permissible on these boards and upon all other public channels. I should like to engage you on a live podcast in a series of topics upon which I am certain we can read a concordance. I have no intention for "trolling," for officialese language, or for anything more than a "realtalk" session in which you and I may present our divergent and perhaps concurrent opinions on "the issues," and thereby make for ourselves each a better campaign platform.
It is my honest belief that it is in both of our better interests that you agree to these debates, for the following reasons: first, I am (not even joking) an accomplished orator and thereby I believe that I am capable of thoroughly trouncing you in a public venue; second, in the event that I do not serve you immediate comeuppance, just the fact that we are both willing to talk for a while, slang some words and make a lot of publicized noise will garner us each greater name recognition than we already have; and, third, it is my belief that these debates will allow for us each to dispel the notion held in the public eye by certain naysayers that we each are clueless infants toddling into the political arena with no idea what we stand for other than some pandering an unfocused optimism.
And so the gauntlet is thrown, sir. I eagerly await your response. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM. |

testobjekt
Creative Accounting Institute
0
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Posted - 2012.02.09 19:30:00 -
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Well Kelduum accept the challenge?
I don't think so. He might be put on the stand on issues, he doesn't like that. He wants to run on no issues and just the fact that he is the CEO of EvE-U.
Let facts decide who you for! |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8972
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Posted - 2012.02.09 19:34:00 -
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testobjekt wrote:Well Kelduum accept the challenge?
I don't think so. He might be put on the stand on issues, he doesn't like that. He wants to run on no issues and just the fact that he is the CEO of EvE-U.
Let facts decide who you for! I believe that Kelduum would like to dispel that myth, as I am myself eager to be free of the accusation that I am running on a campaign of space likes and Internet forum popularity. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM. |

Fractals 4Lyfe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
27
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Posted - 2012.02.09 19:35:00 -
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This is an awesome idea Lyris, and from knowing you personally, I think you would trounce anyone in a debate. |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8972
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Posted - 2012.02.09 20:21:00 -
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Fractals 4Lyfe wrote:This is an awesome idea Lyris, and from knowing you personally, I think you would trounce anyone in a debate. That is my transparent hope. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM. |

Ryuichi Hiroki
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2012.02.09 20:36:00 -
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I would like to see this happen |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8972
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Posted - 2012.02.09 20:37:00 -
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Ryuichi Hiroki wrote:I would like to see this happen Petition for him to accept! Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM. |

Kivena
EVE University Ivy League
10
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Posted - 2012.02.09 20:42:00 -
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[20:37:40] Hannibal Barcca > We should let Poetic Stanziel moderate the debates |

Levy Break
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
5
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Posted - 2012.02.09 20:51:00 -
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This is a terrible idea. I don't want to know what the candidate's "stance" on something is. I want to know what they're knowledgeable about. I can have a stance on nullsec sov mechanics and never spent a day there. It means nothing. I am more interested in Kelduum's credentials, and as CEO of E-UNI I think he has a good grasp of the game's concepts, but I'd like to know what areas he fancies himself a specialist in. |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9088
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Posted - 2012.02.09 20:52:00 -
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Levy Break wrote:This is a terrible idea. I don't want to know what the candidate's "stance" on something is. I want to know what they're knowledgeable about. I can have a stance on nullsec sov mechanics and never spent a day there. It means nothing. I more interested in Kelduum's credentials, and as CEO of E-UNI I think he has a good grasp of the game's concepts, but I'd like to know what areas he fancies himself a specialist in. That is a fair point; however, I believe that there will be ample opportunity to see both in a live debate. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM. |

Levy Break
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
5
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Posted - 2012.02.09 20:54:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:Levy Break wrote:This is a terrible idea. I don't want to know what the candidate's "stance" on something is. I want to know what they're knowledgeable about. I can have a stance on nullsec sov mechanics and never spent a day there. It means nothing. I more interested in Kelduum's credentials, and as CEO of E-UNI I think he has a good grasp of the game's concepts, but I'd like to know what areas he fancies himself a specialist in. That is a fair point; however, I believe that there will be ample opportunity to see both in a live debate.
I also want to see if the candidates can work with each other, since multiples of them are going to be elected, the darn better be able to work with each other. |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9088
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Posted - 2012.02.09 20:56:00 -
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Levy Break wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Levy Break wrote:This is a terrible idea. I don't want to know what the candidate's "stance" on something is. I want to know what they're knowledgeable about. I can have a stance on nullsec sov mechanics and never spent a day there. It means nothing. I more interested in Kelduum's credentials, and as CEO of E-UNI I think he has a good grasp of the game's concepts, but I'd like to know what areas he fancies himself a specialist in. That is a fair point; however, I believe that there will be ample opportunity to see both in a live debate. I also want to see if the candidates can work with each other, since multiples of them are going to be elected, the darn better be able to work with each other. I served in the US military, so I am confident in my ability to tolerate and work with people even if I do not like them.
I see no reason, at all, ever, why personal grievances should, or should be allowed to, interfere with someone's work.
> In which I admit that EVE is a job, not a game. :negative: Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM. |

ViperLok
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.02.09 21:02:00 -
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Levy Break wrote:This is a terrible idea. I don't want to know what the candidate's "stance" on something is. I want to know what they're knowledgeable about. I can have a stance on nullsec sov mechanics and never spent a day there. It means nothing. I am more interested in Kelduum's credentials, and as CEO of E-UNI I think he has a good grasp of the game's concepts, but I'd like to know what areas he fancies himself a specialist in.
I don't see why more information could ever hurt you? |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9088
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Posted - 2012.02.09 21:05:00 -
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ViperLok wrote:Levy Break wrote:This is a terrible idea. I don't want to know what the candidate's "stance" on something is. I want to know what they're knowledgeable about. I can have a stance on nullsec sov mechanics and never spent a day there. It means nothing. I am more interested in Kelduum's credentials, and as CEO of E-UNI I think he has a good grasp of the game's concepts, but I'd like to know what areas he fancies himself a specialist in. I don't see why more information could ever hurt you?
Huxley asserts that too much information makes all information unattractive.
http://www.prosebeforehos.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Huxley-Orwell-Amusing-Ourselves-to-Death.jpg Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM. |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9088
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Posted - 2012.02.09 21:06:00 -
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Don't forget also from 40k, thoughts lead to heresy. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM. |

testobjekt
Creative Accounting Institute
0
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Posted - 2012.02.09 21:17:00 -
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Kivena wrote:[20:37:40] Hannibal Barcca > We should let Poetic Stanziel moderate the debates
yes have an e-uni guy moderate the debate.... why not ask goons to moderate it?
But i guess this wont happen cause Kelduum is afraid of making his position on issues publicly known. He wants to run as "the other guy" and give you "change". Does he even channel "yes we can" on the eve-u voice? |

Velicitia
Open Designs
526
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Posted - 2012.02.09 21:18:00 -
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would be interesting to hear a live debate (eve-radio maybe?) about whatever points you're raising... get the feeling that otherwise all we'll get is wall of text... |

ViperLok
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.02.09 22:17:00 -
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Lyris aren't you an eve-uni alum? Do you know this guy personally? |

Juicy Chanlin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
23
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Posted - 2012.02.10 00:56:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:Kelduum RevaanGÇö
You are hereby challenged to a series of seven Lincoln-Douglas styled debates, which I believe should be publicized as widely as is permissible on these boards and upon all other public channels. I should like to engage you on a live podcast in a series of topics upon which I am certain we can read a concordance. I have no intention for "trolling," for officialese language, or for anything more than a "realtalk" session in which you and I may present our divergent and perhaps concurrent opinions on "the issues," and thereby make for ourselves each a better campaign platform.
It is my honest belief that it is in both of our better interests that you agree to these debates, for the following reasons: first, I am (not even joking) an accomplished orator and thereby I believe that I am capable of thoroughly trouncing you in a public venue; second, in the event that I do not serve you immediate comeuppance, just the fact that we are both willing to talk for a while, slang some words and make a lot of publicized noise will garner us each greater name recognition than we already have; and, third, it is my belief that these debates will allow for us each to dispel the notion held in the public eye by certain naysayers that we each are clueless infants toddling into the political arena with no idea what we stand for other than some pandering an unfocused optimism.
And so the gauntlet is thrown, sir. I eagerly await your response.
Is any other candidate getting grilled like this? or is it just a hate on for kelduum cause it's fun to jump on the poetic schnitzel bandwagon?
A debate I think is a very good idea. But then I'd like to see the other highsec candidates involved as well.. So you can compare their responses. |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9161
|
Posted - 2012.02.10 00:59:00 -
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Juicy Chanlin wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Kelduum RevaanGÇö
You are hereby challenged to a series of seven Lincoln-Douglas styled debates, which I believe should be publicized as widely as is permissible on these boards and upon all other public channels. I should like to engage you on a live podcast in a series of topics upon which I am certain we can read a concordance. I have no intention for "trolling," for officialese language, or for anything more than a "realtalk" session in which you and I may present our divergent and perhaps concurrent opinions on "the issues," and thereby make for ourselves each a better campaign platform.
It is my honest belief that it is in both of our better interests that you agree to these debates, for the following reasons: first, I am (not even joking) an accomplished orator and thereby I believe that I am capable of thoroughly trouncing you in a public venue; second, in the event that I do not serve you immediate comeuppance, just the fact that we are both willing to talk for a while, slang some words and make a lot of publicized noise will garner us each greater name recognition than we already have; and, third, it is my belief that these debates will allow for us each to dispel the notion held in the public eye by certain naysayers that we each are clueless infants toddling into the political arena with no idea what we stand for other than some pandering an unfocused optimism.
And so the gauntlet is thrown, sir. I eagerly await your response. Is any other candidate getting grilled like this? or is it just a hate on for kelduum cause it's fun to jump on the poetic schnitzel bandwagon? A debate I think is a very good idea. But then I'd like to see the other highsec candidates involved as well.. So you can compare their responses. I honestly don't know what you're saying about him being "grilled," when this is the first I've spoken of it.
I am an alumni of EVE University, and I believe that a debate with Kelduum with regards to the issues would be good.
Sorry if somehow I have stumbled into some sort of conspiracy. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM. |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
267
|
Posted - 2012.02.10 01:10:00 -
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As a goon and the promise of not trolling in the debate, do you worry about spontaneous combustion? Or have measures in place to help keep that from happening?
Also isnt just using lincoln-douglas debate an automatric troll, with how much newt gingrich says that and trolls people with it? Signature removed, CCP Phantom |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9161
|
Posted - 2012.02.10 01:14:00 -
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I really wish that people who somehow link "Goons," with "Trolls," in their minds, would read the Something Awful forum rules; or, perhaps they could read the EVE Online forum rules; or, they could dispel prejudice from their minds.
Thanks for the bump, though! Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM. |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
267
|
Posted - 2012.02.10 01:17:00 -
[23] - Quote
Indeed, much like a student at hogwarts, you have stumbled into a conspiracy. Alot of people are gunning it seems for kelduum. or at least poetic stanza has been. Might have to wait for that to blow over or calm down at least, before maybe a debate can happen. Unless feigning ignorace is all part of goon troll. Signature removed, CCP Phantom |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
267
|
Posted - 2012.02.10 01:18:00 -
[24] - Quote
I would try to read something awful, where the internet makes you stupid, but I constanly get made fun of for putting the wrong password in, until they lock me out of it. :( Signature removed, CCP Phantom |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9161
|
Posted - 2012.02.10 01:19:00 -
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rodyas wrote:Indeed, much like a student at hogwarts, you have stumbled into a conspiracy. Alot of people are gunning it seems for kelduum. or at least poetic stanza has been. Might have to wait for that to blow over or calm down at least, before maybe a debate can happen. Unless feigning ignorace is all part of goon troll. I suppose I could go debate some other candidate, then. Drat. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM. |

Deen Wispa
Screaming War Eagles Incorporated
121
|
Posted - 2012.02.10 01:27:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:rodyas wrote:Indeed, much like a student at hogwarts, you have stumbled into a conspiracy. Alot of people are gunning it seems for kelduum. or at least poetic stanza has been. Might have to wait for that to blow over or calm down at least, before maybe a debate can happen. Unless feigning ignorace is all part of goon troll. I suppose I could go debate some other candidate, then. Drat.
I would agree with Rodyas. There's alot of folks gunning for Kelduum and it just feels like you, Poetic, and company are trying to set him up. I'm not saying you are but given Poetic's persistent stalking, you can't blame people for thinking otherwise.
In other words; It's a tarp! Apparently, once you create a sig. You can't completely delete it. So this is my sig...for now. |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9166
|
Posted - 2012.02.10 01:28:00 -
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Deen Wispa wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:rodyas wrote:Indeed, much like a student at hogwarts, you have stumbled into a conspiracy. Alot of people are gunning it seems for kelduum. or at least poetic stanza has been. Might have to wait for that to blow over or calm down at least, before maybe a debate can happen. Unless feigning ignorace is all part of goon troll. I suppose I could go debate some other candidate, then. Drat. I would agree with Rodyas. There's alot of folks gunning for Kelduum and it just feels like you, Poetic, and company are trying to set him up. I'm not saying you are but given Poetic's persistent stalking, you can't blame people for thinking otherwise. In other words; It's a tarp! Perhaps I'll go have a few words with Two Step and Trebor, then. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM. |

Juicy Chanlin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
24
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Posted - 2012.02.10 01:54:00 -
[28] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:Juicy Chanlin wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Kelduum RevaanGÇö
You are hereby challenged to a series of seven Lincoln-Douglas styled debates, which I believe should be publicized as widely as is permissible on these boards and upon all other public channels. I should like to engage you on a live podcast in a series of topics upon which I am certain we can read a concordance. I have no intention for "trolling," for officialese language, or for anything more than a "realtalk" session in which you and I may present our divergent and perhaps concurrent opinions on "the issues," and thereby make for ourselves each a better campaign platform.
It is my honest belief that it is in both of our better interests that you agree to these debates, for the following reasons: first, I am (not even joking) an accomplished orator and thereby I believe that I am capable of thoroughly trouncing you in a public venue; second, in the event that I do not serve you immediate comeuppance, just the fact that we are both willing to talk for a while, slang some words and make a lot of publicized noise will garner us each greater name recognition than we already have; and, third, it is my belief that these debates will allow for us each to dispel the notion held in the public eye by certain naysayers that we each are clueless infants toddling into the political arena with no idea what we stand for other than some pandering an unfocused optimism.
And so the gauntlet is thrown, sir. I eagerly await your response. Is any other candidate getting grilled like this? or is it just a hate on for kelduum cause it's fun to jump on the poetic schnitzel bandwagon? A debate I think is a very good idea. But then I'd like to see the other highsec candidates involved as well.. So you can compare their responses. I honestly don't know what you're saying about him being "grilled," when this is the first I've spoken of it. I am an alumni of EVE University, and I believe that a debate with Kelduum with regards to the issues would be good. Sorry if somehow I have stumbled into some sort of conspiracy.
I was just reading his CSM thread before and it seems like a lot of the posts there are just hating. Didn't notice that on the other CSM threads.
Sorry for the confusion. As I said before. I think you have a good idea..
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Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
726
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Posted - 2012.02.10 02:17:00 -
[29] - Quote
Kelduum will not accept the challenge. His campaign strategy is to ride the 1500 E-Uni member vote into a CSM seat. That is his plan. He does not have to speak publicly (the last time he did, The Mittani called him a 'tard for arguing a part of the game he knows nothing about.) The STAIN Travel Bookmark Collection - 451 Bookmarks |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9171
|
Posted - 2012.02.10 02:19:00 -
[30] - Quote
Poetic Stanziel wrote:Kelduum will not accept the challenge. His campaign strategy is to ride the 1500 E-Uni member vote into a CSM seat. That is his plan. He does not have to speak publicly (the last time he did, The Mittani called him a 'tard for arguing a part of the game he knows nothing about.) I would like to believe him better than that. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM. |

Juicy Chanlin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
24
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Posted - 2012.02.10 02:21:00 -
[31] - Quote
Poetic Stanziel wrote:Kelduum will not accept the challenge. His campaign strategy is to ride the 1500 E-Uni member vote into a CSM seat. That is his plan. He does not have to speak publicly (the last time he did, The Mittani called him a 'tard for arguing a part of the game he knows nothing about.)
funny how you're speaking for him.. as if you know what he thinks.. WOW.. didn't know you two were so close.. |

Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
726
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Posted - 2012.02.10 02:33:00 -
[32] - Quote
Juicy Chanlin wrote:Poetic Stanziel wrote:Kelduum will not accept the challenge. His campaign strategy is to ride the 1500 E-Uni member vote into a CSM seat. That is his plan. He does not have to speak publicly (the last time he did, The Mittani called him a 'tard for arguing a part of the game he knows nothing about.) funny how you're speaking for him.. as if you know what he thinks.. WOW.. didn't know you two were so close.. I am his alt, after all.
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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
268
|
Posted - 2012.02.10 02:53:00 -
[33] - Quote
Alts? As in the fight club kind of split personality disorder. Where poetic is the egotistic fighter kickass personality side alt. And Kelduum is the more sensitive and too good of a guy so he never gets the girl and runs around looking like a ***** but finally gets a ballsack and fights his egotistical fighter personality alt, and becomes the final product of the two emerging into one? Signature removed, CCP Phantom |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9172
|
Posted - 2012.02.10 02:54:00 -
[34] - Quote
rodyas wrote:Alts? As in the fight club kind of split personality disorder. Where poetic is the egotistic fighter kickass personality side alt. And Kelduum is the more sensitive and too good of a guy so he never gets the girl and runs around looking like a ***** but finally gets a ballsack and fights his egotistical fighter personality alt, and becomes the final product of the two emerging into one? I am clearly Marla Singer Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM. |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
268
|
Posted - 2012.02.10 03:03:00 -
[35] - Quote
Well to keep you from future pain. When you are sleeping with poetic stanza you are actually sleeping with Kelduum. But Kelduum wont know he was sleeping with you cause he thinks you are sleeping with poetic stanza and your two guy's actions make Kelduum remember his parents, and he will not like you for awhile.
Prepare for this hardship.
Edit: Actually I am too confused about this to write it the write way, hopefully chuck palhaniuk has a character in EVE and he can straighten it all out for us. Signature removed, CCP Phantom |

Juicy Chanlin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
24
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Posted - 2012.02.10 03:03:00 -
[36] - Quote
rodyas wrote:Alts? As in the fight club kind of split personality disorder. Where poetic is the egotistic fighter kickass personality side alt. And Kelduum is the more sensitive and too good of a guy so he never gets the girl and runs around looking like a ***** but finally gets a ballsack and fights his egotistical fighter personality alt, and becomes the final product of the two emerging into one?
I'd say Poetic is the more ********, I whine cause I got kicked out of the uni for not being able to follow the rules alt.. |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
268
|
Posted - 2012.02.10 03:07:00 -
[37] - Quote
That could be true, and then while poetic sleeps he goes around setting up fight clubs to help fight EVE Uni and fire bombing EVE Uni assets. Signature removed, CCP Phantom |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9172
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Posted - 2012.02.10 03:12:00 -
[38] - Quote
You folks sure have active imaginations! In any event, any advice on debate topics? I'm sure Kelduum will be along shortly to give out a list of things he'd be willing to talk about with me. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM. |

Juicy Chanlin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
24
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Posted - 2012.02.10 03:15:00 -
[39] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:You folks sure have active imaginations! In any event, any advice on debate topics? I'm sure Kelduum will be along shortly to give out a list of things he'd be willing to talk about with me.
What aspects of the game do you think are broken and what priority would you give them. At the same time, what part of the game do you think should never change. |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
268
|
Posted - 2012.02.10 03:21:00 -
[40] - Quote
Thanks for the compliment but I don't really know the issues facing eve too well.
All I can think of is ideas for future expansions or so. Signature removed, CCP Phantom |

testobjekt
Creative Accounting Institute
1
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Posted - 2012.02.10 08:34:00 -
[41] - Quote
We need hard questions:
What are the candidates stances on:
FiS vs WiS?
Incursion money faucet?
non consential pvp?
ganking?
griefing?
scamming?
how much political capital are they going to sacrifice for their pet issues?
About what would they talk to CCP drunk in the night?
Kelduum is running an campaing of "hope" and "change" but with no substentive agenda. He does not want to alienate people by having stances on the issues.
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Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
517
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Posted - 2012.02.10 09:20:00 -
[42] - Quote
Why not a debate with all of the final serious candidates? or a series of debates. I read the platforms but as you mentioned, having a way with words will help during actual meetings. - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
662
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Posted - 2012.02.10 09:22:00 -
[43] - Quote
I'll debate you. My specialty is spaceships. Also, alcohol. A vote for Akirei is a vote for Awesome! |

Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
782
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Posted - 2012.02.10 09:56:00 -
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Without including other major candidates the debates would be a typical attempt to manipulate the voters of Eve into believing this is a two person race.
Add this challenge to include all the candidates that make the ballot and then you will prove you are the clear victor you claim to be!
I would also insist these be a Charles Manson vs imaginary voices style debate as this would be much closer to politics in Eve and a lot more fun to listen to!
Issler |

Kelduum Revaan
EVE University Ivy League
1104
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Posted - 2012.02.10 15:07:00 -
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Despite the potential issues mentioned above, I hereby accept your challenge, assuming I get to be Lincoln and have his awesome hat.
However, my schedule means I wont be able to participate in a full Lincoln-Douglas style debate, as I can't entirely commit to seven full three-hour sessions between now and the end of the election (there is, after all, less than six weeks remaining until the polls close).
Drop me an EVEmail in-game, or forum PM via our forums, and we can discuss the details. Kelduum Revaan CEO, EVE University
Candidate,-áCSM7 |

Zmaster BloodLust
BloodLust Enterprises Apocalypse Now.
3
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Posted - 2012.02.10 16:46:00 -
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And the crowd goes wild! \o/ |

testobjekt
Creative Accounting Institute
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Posted - 2012.02.10 16:46:00 -
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Kelduum Revaan wrote:Despite the potential issues mentioned above, I hereby accept your challenge, assuming I get to be Lincoln and have his awesome hat.
However, my schedule means I wont be able to participate in a full Lincoln-Douglas style debate, as I can't entirely commit to seven full three-hour sessions between now and the end of the election (there is, after all, less than six weeks remaining until the polls close).
Drop me an EVEmail in-game, or forum PM via our forums, and we can discuss the details.
sure you get to be Lincoln, which means you will lose the election. |

Zmaster BloodLust
BloodLust Enterprises Apocalypse Now.
3
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Posted - 2012.02.10 16:47:00 -
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testobjekt wrote:Kelduum Revaan wrote:Despite the potential issues mentioned above, I hereby accept your challenge, assuming I get to be Lincoln and have his awesome hat.
However, my schedule means I wont be able to participate in a full Lincoln-Douglas style debate, as I can't entirely commit to seven full three-hour sessions between now and the end of the election (there is, after all, less than six weeks remaining until the polls close).
Drop me an EVEmail in-game, or forum PM via our forums, and we can discuss the details. sure you get to be Lincoln, which means you will lose the election.
or die trying... |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9271
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Posted - 2012.02.10 18:38:00 -
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Kelduum Revaan wrote:Despite the potential issues mentioned above, I hereby accept your challenge, assuming I get to be Lincoln and have his awesome hat.
However, my schedule means I wont be able to participate in a full Lincoln-Douglas style debate, as I can't entirely commit to seven full three-hour sessions between now and the end of the election (there is, after all, less than six weeks remaining until the polls close).
Drop me an EVEmail in-game, or forum PM via our forums, and we can discuss the details. See you on the battlefield! o7 meight Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM. |
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