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nether void
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Posted - 2008.01.10 15:46:00 -
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This is like the people that rob your house, but sue you cause they tripped over a toy in the hallway and broke their ankle.
I wouldn't call it griefing; I'd call it justice and your moral obligation.
This game should be harsh for innocents, and brutal for aggressors. Unfortunately in most cases those roles are reversed.
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Posted - 2008.01.10 15:56:00 -
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 Originally by: Kirjava
Would I be allowed to hold the pod, log an alt in then suicide the pod with my alt? Is this an exploit or a variation of the Lofty manouver?
If you have two accounts, I don't see how that would be wrong. Just like a pirate tackling a victim until their friends arrive.
I have no idea though if it is officially wrong.
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Posted - 2008.01.10 16:08:00 -
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Originally by: Kalazar
Originally by: Adonis 4174
Originally by: EliteSlave
Originally by: PhantomVyper
Edited by: PhantomVyper on 10/01/2008 15:57:05
Originally by: Jovoich
Yes you can scram and web the pod, and no concord wont kill you. But it isnt allowed.
P.s. This is why i sent my petition about podding in empire.
Are you sure about this? I was always under the impression that any aggro against a non-outlaw pod in safe-sec = death by Concordokken!
Technically speaking yes, but once u flip the can and are aggressed, u become an "outlaw" in a pod
What happens when the kill rights expire?
They won't if you take advantage of the fact you now have a flashy red person in a pod sitting 2k from you webbed and pointed. The aggression timer keeps resetting, and you can go away for hours if you want, leaving them to sit there and ponder life, the universe and everything.
Can't they just log out? Wait 10. Log back in? I think the point of 'tackling' them is to hold them for the pod kill, or did I misread the original question?
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nethervoid - since '97 [UO|EQ|SB|SWG|PS|EVE|HZ|NWN|VG|WoW] |
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Posted - 2008.01.10 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Fina
Edited by: Cpt Fina on 10/01/2008 17:45:33
from Wreckthread Originally by: Xaen
The fact that there's a contradiction between the statement "does not profit in any way" and the example of blowing up newbies (since you profit from their wrecks and cans) only serves to illustrate that it's the spirit of the "don't grief" rule that matters, not the particular verbiage.
In this case the one that hold the pod doesn't even get any financial gain from it. Should be even more clear how to classify it then.
The financial gain is in the ore thief not being able to try to steal from you again.
The problem with 'does not profit in any way' does not apply in Eve. In Eve every action changes the profit or loss of another individual no matter what that action is. Even the action of logging off changes it. Even the action of cancelling your account. Even the action of choosing not to purchase the game in so much effectively never having played the game. Everything changes, if even on a minute scale, the profit and loss of every individual in the game in some sort of way.
Therefore there can be no act that can be considered griefing.
...Which is why I don't agree with the definition of griefing in this game, but that's an entirely seperate thread.
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