Originally by: Cpt Branko

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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 12/01/2008 18:26:55
Edited by: Cpt Branko on 12/01/2008 18:26:18

Originally by: Alyth

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It's not derailing, it's just discussing aspects of his various arguments albeit far more rationally than his usual YOU'RE WRONG outburts. T1 Amarr are also fairly decent too. Try out the Arbitrator, Geddon and Abaddon for very very very decent ships.

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But they suck - in EFT!

Sorry, couldn't resist ;)

Curzon should really make a song about EFT warriors, It'd be awesome ;)

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Originally by: Alyth

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Originally by: Lyria Skydancer

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You seriously think that someone NOT playing amarr has the time and energy to whine about them on the forums all day?

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Given the standard of his arguments and the comments he makes being obviously, even painfully, wrong I'd have to stick with my original assessment. Either he doesn't play amarr or he has all the related skills to 1 and wonders why he sucks. Anyone who has actually played Amarr with decent skills knows how good they are.

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After reading your risent rants ( and i ve read them all) i have to ask you to spot. you ve lost it.

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Originally by: Neon Genesis

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Edited by: Neon Genesis on 12/01/2008 18:49:52

Getting very sick of characters spamming incredibly one sided arguments everywhere in order to further their own agendas. The worst thing about it is that characters like JoJo actually manage to turn a hugely disproportionate amount of attention to the topic. It's bad enough that we get far too many identical 'HURR MY TAKE ON AMARR' threads constantly.

Make a sticky and lock new discussions.

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Originally by: Frug

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After reading your risent rants ( and i ve read them all) i have to ask you to spot. you ve lost it.

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English mother******, do you speak it?

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Originally by: Jonny JoJo

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Originally by: Frug

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After reading your risent rants ( and i ve read them all) i have to ask you to spot. you ve lost it.

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English mother******, do you speak it?

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I said - What does Marcellus Wallace look like?

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Originally by: Jonny JoJo

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I never understood why people like you look at EFT and think its works in the real world. I find it very ammusing that you guys use EFT to back up your Anti-Amarr claims, then make stuff up, trying to confuse the reader that I use EFT. Actually, all of my posts are about stuff that relates to real world pvp.

After all, a Megapulse/Conflag Abaddon shooting a typhoon that has been webbed to 20/ms at 1k range will miss 60% of its shots. EFt does not show you that, and you are still putting your head in the sand ignoring broken amarr issues

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Originally by: Jonny JoJo

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Originally by: Cpt Branko

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Never shoot while MWD-ing, you won't hit a thing.

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Defently. Also try approaching the enemy to lower transversal velocity*. You can add Transversal to overview so you can roughly judge how when you are tracking with experience. You can use your speed to an advantage as some races, such as Amarr, have terrible tracking so you can orbit the enemy at a speed where his shots cannot hit you, but yours can. **

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Originally by: Jonny JoJo

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425 II In PVE? Surely hybrid users use Blaster in PvE.

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Originally by: The Djego

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Actualy Jojo is the biggest Nerf for Amarr atm. This is 100% not flame, simply my point of view after watching his posting Style a bit.

My evidence:

He creates a lot of threads where he states a fact at it self that is preaty easy to prove wrong.By simply overdoing it and real silly pure EFT points the treads end everytime in a pure flamefest.

After eatch post of him i wonder a bit more If Amarr ships are realy broken(what is realy strange since I fly Amarr myself, and know there are issues)...

He high Jacks every good Amarr Thread and turn it into a big flamefest. Also he attack player that realy bring sugestions and stop serious Posting by ading huge Spam, Flame and add to everything something to make it look overpowert or stupid.

He makeing Threads longer and bader to read because of many contentless posts. This also makes a real argumentations and keeping Threads in a good/usefull shape realy hard.

He never came up with ingame realted Conted only EFT Numbers, not even a Fitting. This is because he wants not open point in his deffence where somebody can disagree, sloving up posts and bring them back to live. Also he uses Conted of others, spam it and make i look quite silly the more he repeats it by his way to change facts and start theoretical Situations where a Amarr Ship can be subpar to another Ship to lead the Threads to a dead end.

For real he don¦t want a amarr Boost. He only trolls and using Amarr as a simple cover because of the huge amount of posts and the general opinion that some things have to get done here(I also thing that). By this he destroys any good and constructive Thread about them. By making Amarr look silly and stupid he creates a opinion for People that not fly Amarr that this is pure wine and the ships are fine afterall(and this is not true in some cases).

I don¦t know if this is wanted or yust a ugly sideeffect of his trolling fun but he prevents constructive Contend on the Forums over Amarr to stay on toppic. By this he prevents creative Threads that lead to a needet Change in design for some Ships and Lasers in general to become worth the atention of CCP.

Any one that thinks he is actuall a good thing for Amarr Threads here on the Forum should question himself what is the result of his posting style right now like I did.

Thanks for reading and signed.

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Originally by: Ira Theos

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Leave JoJo alone! His negative views are based upon the misconception that the Amarr role in eve has anything to do with combat. For example, once I understood that the Apoc was an armored mining barge and not a BS, I was happy with it.

As soon as he accepts the Amarr role of the "garbage collectors and street sweepers of eve", he will be happier.

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Originally by: The Djego

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I don¦t know if this is wanted or yust a ugly sideeffect of his trolling fun but he prevents constructive Contend on the Forums over Amarr to stay on toppic. By this he prevents creative Threads that lead to a needet Change in design for some Ships and Lasers in general to become worth the atention of CCP.

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Originally by: Jonny JoJo

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Hey - I took on a bob carrier today - it was fun!

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Originally by: Jonny JoJo

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Originally by: The Djego

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I don¦t know if this is wanted or yust a ugly sideeffect of his trolling fun but he prevents constructive Contend on the Forums over Amarr to stay on toppic. By this he prevents creative Threads that lead to a needet Change in design for some Ships and Lasers in general to become worth the atention of CCP.

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So says the person who thinks that "1v1 freindly punisher battle" = Amarr pvp. Still using your freinds account for his amarr bs?

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Originally by: Rawr Cristina

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I swear 95% of all Amarr whines come from Johnny JoJo and Lyria Skydancer alone. They've successfully managed to infiltrate every thread remotely related to Amarr (and in some cases not) in the last year or so and turn it into an Amarr whine. One wonders how they keep it up

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