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KillerQuokka
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Posted - 2003.06.11 15:16:00 -
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M0o, so you want to be taken seriously and hope to shed your image of gate-ganking, can dumping, noob killing loosers(tm)?
THEN STOP SPAMMING PEOPLE WITH GANG REQUESTS TO PREVENT THEM FROM DOING ANYTHING!
Its lame, it sucks, and it makes you look even more guilty off all the others things that you say you have not done....
Come on guys, grow up and play then game, don't exploit it. ------------------------ "The direct use of force is such a poor solution to any problem, it is generally employed only by small children and large nations." ------------------------ |

Nibarlan
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Posted - 2003.06.11 15:20:00 -
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when that happens just block them, I always set deny gang requests unless I'm looking for one or someone asks me.
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Ulf Ulfsson
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Posted - 2003.06.11 15:22:00 -
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Damn, beaten to it ;-)
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Ulf Ulfsson
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Posted - 2003.06.11 15:22:00 -
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Just set the option to deny all gang requests - if you forget you've done it then anyone that really wants to gang with you is probably talking to you anyway and will ask why you're rejecting. Problem solved....
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Nibarlan
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Posted - 2003.06.11 15:23:00 -
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lol
----------------------------------------------- In space no one can hear you scream...unless you scream on the radio, then everybody on that channel can hear you...but only if your in a ship, because they wouldn't hear you if you were in space and screamed into the radio ----------------------------------------------- |

RAPID
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Posted - 2003.06.11 16:51:00 -
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still an exploit though.. just coz non-newbies can stop it easily doesn't mean that MOO shouldn't be getting a short sharp ban for using it ...
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BehindYou
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Posted - 2003.06.11 16:59:00 -
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This is a prime example of not role playing, but exploiting a bug or poor CCP judgment. I find it remarkable that some people may say that all they are doing is role-playing and it is not fair for the GMs to come in and ôkickö their but with Battleships, when that is calling the ôKettle Blackö. Given the opportunity, I am sure M0o would have hoped in those Battleships if they had access. I am not saying all the people in M0o utilize bugs or CCP shortcomings to win their battles, as I know this is not the case, but this type of action does not bold well for those who are in fact role playing.
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Ivellios
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Posted - 2003.06.11 17:17:00 -
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Come on guys.... Im no m0o fan. I still think j0rt should buy his neighbor a dog... but you cant scream "EXPLOIT" every time someone uses a game feature to outsmart other players.
Using Canisters to lag a would be victim is cowardice. If you are a REAL badass then wait till someone is out of warp and out of magnetic re-alignment to shoot at them.
Tricking someone into ganging with you so that you can warp straight to them.... LOL ... is a stroke of genius. Good one... I will have to try it out.
When at last they discover the center of the universe there will be many people who will be dissapointed that they are not it. |

Cachorro Louco
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Posted - 2003.06.11 17:27:00 -
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Ivellios I don't think that's what the original poster was talking about.
I think he was talking about multiple windows poping up to request you to a gang and that he is unable to do anything else until those requests are accepted or rejected.
Now I have never tried that and don't know anyone who has. But if someone uses that "tactic" to delay that person to respond to an attack that to me is an exploit of the game mechanics and not sound tactics.
Now if someone I don't know from Adam asked me to gang with them, and they were nowhere near me, I would laugh and remove the window. I would then do a search on their character name. If I found it belonging to some nefarious individual I would block that person from any futher communications from or to me.
Mad Dog says: Bet I'm the only true Reverend in the game. It says so on the printout I got from an Internet site. |

Xandax
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Posted - 2003.06.11 17:29:00 -
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The reasons for the gang request is it is a modal screen, meaning you can't do anything before you have gotten rid of that screen. So you can't activate modules and run or fight or even steer your ship, until you have answered the gang-request.
I think this is why people say it is an exploit - because you can't perform any other action while pending a gang-request.
I urge all people experience this to report it to CCP. If it is an exploit they will handle it - otherwise it isn't.
Edited by: Xandax on 11/06/2003 17:30:30 ------------------------------------------------------------
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Ivellios
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Posted - 2003.06.11 17:45:00 -
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<strange repeat>
Edited by: Ivellios on 11/06/2003 17:50:07
When at last they discover the center of the universe there will be many people who will be dissapointed that they are not it. |

Ivellios
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Posted - 2003.06.11 17:49:00 -
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Ahh i see now... Sorry
You are right, it's just as bad if that is what it's for. Once again the Cowgirls can only win by cheating.
Using any kind of software mechanics to beat other players (canisters, modal windows) are the tactics of a mind with no real creativity.
When at last they discover the center of the universe there will be many people who will be dissapointed that they are not it. |

ShadowStrike
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Posted - 2003.06.11 20:44:00 -
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Whats sad is that despite the default action being set to No, many players still fall for accepting gang invites from pirates. Its sad... yet funny at the same time. If you don't want the invite, simply block the sender.
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Xandax
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Posted - 2003.06.11 20:51:00 -
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So to avoid getting blocked by gang-invites where it slows your speed with what you can react, because the window is modal you have to use settings?
I simply think this tactic should be avoided or the window should be made non-modal.
It can't be right that you have to set up your settings in one paticular way to increase your chances to surviving due to such a tactic.
Edited by: Xandax on 11/06/2003 20:52:28 ------------------------------------------------------------
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MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2003.06.11 21:08:00 -
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Now this one is really lame...
Actually I find it pretty interesting how some people have so much fun by simply annoying other players with these methods. It¦s sad... but interesting. Can¦t help it... I¦d really like to hear what a professional psychologist would say about computergame players who use such methods. I mean... something has to be behind all this. It¦s pretty much the same as with cheaters in FPS-games. Normal people don¦t do such things do they? At least not where I¦m living.
Don¦t get me wrong this is no offence of any kind.
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Merell
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Posted - 2003.06.11 22:07:00 -
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That m0o is using the Gang Request spamming exploit really should be common knowledge for the Devs right now, this has been pointed out so many times in the forums.
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Axelay
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Posted - 2003.06.12 00:24:00 -
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There are those among you that would say _ANYTHING_ to try to get us all banned.
It's kinda funny really...
_____ m0o
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Cassim
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Posted - 2003.06.12 02:15:00 -
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I hear that m0o has an lag magnification amplifier. When they target a ship it warps them 20 seconds behind real time and they don't even know whats happening. Get a life. Go mine someplace else, there are 5k systems.
Ywev m0o
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Axelay
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Posted - 2003.06.12 02:28:00 -
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GMs are always helpin' us out too.
That's why the petition response time is so low. They are busy boosting our shields for us when we get in a fight.
And we all have level 5 skills too
Or...
We could just be good at what we do? Nah... _____ m0o
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Ends
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Posted - 2003.06.12 03:04:00 -
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haha Axe, don't fool yourself your an idiot. : ) Just a ineffective jerk, who desperately needs a videogame to have some way to express your inner nature since doing it in real life would have consequences that you couldn't avoid. Like that noob you just tried to screw with, stealing your lunch money.... again.
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Mustafa Ken'Yova
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Posted - 2003.06.12 03:12:00 -
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You m00 boys are funny, too bad you didn't address the issue at hand.
If in fact you are spamming people with gang requests in order to expedite the killing processs, you are indeed lower then I originally expected.
'Tis a real shame that people like you have to come clutter such a game, Pirates are fine, but *****ish griefers are another thing. Play the game the way it was meant to be played, stop looking for any single little thing you can abuse / take advantage of to get ahead.
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Axelay
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Posted - 2003.06.12 03:14:00 -
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Yeah, you're right..
Here, why don't I just lay here and let you kill me. _____ m0o
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Axelay
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Posted - 2003.06.12 03:16:00 -
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n00b stealing my lunch money?
what are you talking about?
I haven't 'tried to mess' with anyone in several days, perhaps you have me confused with someone else. _____ m0o
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Salgurdar
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Posted - 2003.06.12 03:51:00 -
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Noone is asking your or M0o members to lie down and let themselves be killed. They are asking for M0o to use a little common sense before they act. Using a feature in a way that it was not designed to be used, to the detriment of others, is what is commonly called an "exploit". And repeated use of exploits in most online games I have played results in account suspension or banning. I am at a loss as to how M0o is allowed to use these tactics unhindered by the GM/CS department at CCP. Your corporation is well known for it's use of ingame exploits to grief players, and this use of gang chat requests just cements the fact that your member are only in it to make life hell for everyone. I'm under the impression that you only target those that are far inferior to yourselves and you run scared from encounters that you believe to pose in any way a risk. So to use exploits like system loading and repeated chat invites to cripple your prey is quite pathetic. You are good at what you do M0o. Because what you do is mass kill new players in rookie ships for no gain other than bragging rights to other M0o members. And if you get a wiff of a well armed cruiser, you head for the hills with your tails between your legs. There is no skill to mounting multiple stamped heatsinks to a cruiser to ensure maximum damage output, and placing youself in oprtune situation where your far weaker opponent has absolutely no chance to defend themselves, even the basest idiot could achieve this after being showed it once. Try taking out a cruiser in a frigate, then come back and tell us you're good at what you do.
"We all know what we are, we're just haggling about the price" - W.C. Fields Rolschau > anyway... because some jerk today... (it is soon 5 am) will turn on the smoke alarm all over the place and then go inside our room to check.. then I will stay up and not get a shock while sleeping and die.... I will be playing eve untill the jerk shows up
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Axelay
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Posted - 2003.06.12 04:10:00 -
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Oh get off of it.
The gang invite is not an exploit.
We've only invited people a few times that are hard to track down, and people that click 'yes' instead of 'no' are just trained monkeys (thank you microsoft).
No-one really uses it anymore anyway. Just take a pill. _____ m0o
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XeQtR
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Posted - 2003.06.12 05:26:00 -
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WOW? A thread about m0o?? Haven't seen one of those in, what? 2 seconds?
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Tool
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Posted - 2003.06.12 06:09:00 -
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Lol, these guys do seem to hog all the attention don't they? The quintessential attention *****s.
Axe, spamming a player with gang invites to prevent them from being able to control their ships is an exploit, how can you NOT realize this?
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Sabastian Kane
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Posted - 2003.06.12 08:39:00 -
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Because if you were 30+ old men (sitting in your underwear) living in your mommy and daddy's basement (like all MOo****s) you would realize that griefing and being ****heads is the only form of entertainment that these guys can get (sorta, there is always ****!)I feel sorry for these guys. There either below the age of 12 or the above desperate attention gettion adults I mentioned above. They dont understand the concept of exploit or bug. All they know is if its in the game, they can use it. There sole existance on this planet is to make people miserable in online games. They cant hack it in the real world so the retract into a world where you can say and do anything with no reprocussions. This is exactly the vision CCP had when they created this game. A universe filled with people doing WHATEVER they want, whenever they want and to whomever they want to!
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Captain Bluebear
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Posted - 2003.06.12 09:12:00 -
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Wow Sabastian, that was Amazingly personal, even for a Moo bashing. How many times have you been griefed by Moo?
Personnaly i've never met any Moos (yet), but i'm tempted to go and find them to see their uber-pirate skills in action.
In the meantime, can i suggest that, since Moo have been the reason for so many threads in the boards, CCP create a new board called Moo Bashing, to honour what is unquestionably the most infamous corp in EVE. Even a sticky Moo Bashing thread would do.
'What a strange thing to request!' I hear you exclaim (politely put). Maybe it is, but i'm a 56k'er, and not likely to see broadband in my area within the next 5 years. Five moo topics per page per forum is just wasting my limited bandwidth.
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Jequan
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Posted - 2003.06.12 16:14:00 -
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I don't think it's an exploit. I only shows once more that m0o aren't pirates but plain simple griefers. I can't understand how someone can have fun destroying other players fun but it seems to be the case here.
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