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Trog626
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Posted - 2008.01.14 00:37:00 -
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Edited by: Trog626 on 14/01/2008 00:39:49
Edited by: Trog626 on 14/01/2008 00:38:32
Jita is probably the best place in terms of volume and low cost to get cap ship component bpcs, but every time I go there it breaks.
I mainly do this at the weekend which is when I get most time to play the game, but obviously that means its the busiest time as well. I live in CA, USA, which means I suffer the business of the Euro end of the weekend, and the US afternoon, and much as I would like, I am not staying up until after DT to get in and out of Jita.
Everyone moans about it, some people support it, all are sick of hearing it, but when is an improvement going to occur.
I have just had an interesting stuck petition chat with GM Zhainius in customer service, who has not been able to answer the question how is Jita being handled by CCP, and has advised that the only route I can use is to post ideas on the forum.
I guess this means that the only way to get change is to introduce customer pressure, but I can't exactly see 40k players agreeing not to play or pay for a week to get something done.
With the above in mind, what ideas are out there to either change how Jita works, or get CCP to beef up whatever they need to beef up a bit (if that is even possible).
First idea from me - put a 25% sales tax on everything for sale in Jita. Producers won't like it, but it might force them to operate from more systems so at least others can choose from more destination to go and buy stuff.
Any other ideas out there?
I have always had the greatest respect for the hardware methodology CCP follow, but maybe a reminder is due that the customer base is not an experiemental one. I am a paying customer for this leisure product and that does come with some expectations about service. I live with gate lag, loosing the occassional ship because I got lagged out rather than warping etc, but to be stuck for hours because a system is too busy is a bit much.
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Life Machine
Caldari
Damned Legion
Mournival Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.14 01:40:00 -
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Making people spread out from Jita isn't the solution. The whole POINT in Jita being busy is BECAUSE almost everything is in that system for sale, and normally at very competitive prices. Why force sellers AND buyers to spread out instead of keeping everything in one place.
Its sort of like saying "Hmm...there's 3 local butchers that cost more about my neighbourhood, but then there's that big supermarket just a few doors down that'll be packed, but it'll be cheap, so although I might not get served as quickly, its worth it in the end."
Only way I can see, using my example, is to put an express lane...do whatevers in the powers of CCP to beef up (Even more) the amount of server space Jita gets.
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Fovo
Timetravel Enterprises
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.01.14 02:43:00 -
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How about Jita on its own server (or cluster)? Assuming that it isn't already that is...
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Selene Le'Cotiere
Amarr
I-Omniscient-I
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Posted - 2008.01.14 03:40:00 -
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 Originally by: Fovo
How about Jita on its own server (or cluster)? Assuming that it isn't already that is...
Jita already has it's own dedicated node, and we broke it.
One option I can see is a limited Interbus service. I'm not talking about delivering items across regions, but only within a jump or two from Jita. For a modest fee of course.
Would allow peeps to shop there and pick up their goods just outside the system.
Another thing needed, would to have Auto Piloting options to avoid systems (Jita) to lessen the number of people "just passing thru".
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Posted - 2008.01.14 04:02:00 -
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What is wrong with it? Go to Wallmart, you get low prices but it is a pain in the ass to shop there. Instead go to the market down the block and things are much easier.
If they improve Jita more and more people will just go and do business there while making other more local hubs less attractive.
All for increasing taxes there.
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Crow Daddy
CC Industries
VENOM Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.14 04:42:00 -
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Originally by: Selene Le'Cotiere
One option I can see is a limited Interbus service. I'm not talking about delivering items across regions, but only within a jump or two from Jita. For a modest fee of course.
I remember a Dev saying once upon a time that it wasn't the number of people in the system that caused the lag but the moving of items from inventories to ships and vice versa.(Not saying cramming 700 people into a system doesn't cause lag). So I'm not sure how well Interbus would work if it would still be causing the moving items between item hangers. The one thing that might make it work would be like the new bounty system so every so often like 15 minutes deliveries would be made so the load could be accounted for and braced for.
Originally by: Selene Le'Cotiere
Another thing needed, would to have Auto Piloting options to avoid systems (Jita) to lessen the number of people "just passing thru".
This is something I have wanted for ages say there is a gate camp always in X system, you could put this in your avoided systems list and it would be nice for those accidental autopilots when you're not paying attention to when you're going through Jita.
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Zeph Solaris
Heretic Army
The Covenant Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.14 10:10:00 -
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Introduce a delivery system. Make it like research agents where you select what you want moved, set a destination system, and the agent states a fee. Make it only available for Jita. Eve needs more ISK sinks and this has the potential to be a good one.
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Wolf Spyder
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Posted - 2008.01.14 17:21:00 -
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Edited by: Wolf Spyder on 14/01/2008 17:26:43
Youu want to solve the Jita problem. Put an unstable star in the system and tell everyone it will go nova in a week. Problem solved. 
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Mr Cleann
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Posted - 2008.01.14 17:26:00 -
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I avoid jita like the plague. 
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Mr Cleann
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Posted - 2008.01.14 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: Zeph Solaris
Introduce a delivery system. Make it like research agents where you select what you want moved, set a destination system, and the agent states a fee. Make it only available for Jita. Eve needs more ISK sinks and this has the potential to be a good one.
Maybe it would be a good time to actually use those npc convoys we see always coming and going from stations. Make the npc's able to jump a limited number of systems to deliver goods for whom ever bought them as well as deliver the "static" supplies they normally carry. As they are we can pop them outside the range of the station defenses without concord bugging us. So you may want to add a couple escort ships that can return an ample supply of firepower. this would create more risk to the game.
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Una D
Ex Coelis
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Posted - 2008.01.14 17:50:00 -
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Remove any and all agents from Jita. Remove all stations except 4-4 (the one in use). Remove the stupid noob agents close to it sending people to it for missions. Make it just a trade hub. That should help quite a lot.
Rotate the station to point towards more gates to facilate faster exit from the system.
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.01.14 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: Selene Le'Cotiere
Originally by: Fovo
How about Jita on its own server (or cluster)? Assuming that it isn't already that is...
Jita already has it's own dedicated node, and we broke it.
One option I can see is a limited Interbus service. I'm not talking about delivering items across regions, but only within a jump or two from Jita. For a modest fee of course.
Would allow peeps to shop there and pick up their goods just outside the system.
Would be nice, but then I would require the same for Amarr, Oursulaert, Rens and all the other systems in EVE. A service can't be limited to 1 system of all eVE.
Originally by: Selene Le'Cotiere
Another thing needed, would to have Auto Piloting options to avoid systems (Jita) to lessen the number of people "just passing thru".
I think all the pilot in EVE would love that.
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