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Soulstinger
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Posted - 2004.03.23 03:50:00 -
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I jumped through a gate and found a blockade waiting for me. I satt here, knowing my Bestower couldnt make it back through the gate, much less warp away b4 they destroyed me. I log out in cloak, hoping to survive, but no, auto warp kicks in, un-cloaks me and poof I'm down 500 Arkonor and a Bestower. Please, auto-warp, along with the new online/offline features, is not only bugged to hell, but was not wanted or even mentioned by the general populace, can you do away with it?
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Lan2
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Posted - 2004.03.23 06:10:00 -
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You would have lost your ship anyhow.
You only stay clocked for about 60 seconds.... your ship stats in space for like 180 seconds.
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Imperishable
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Posted - 2004.03.23 06:37:00 -
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Someone should slap you on the face for trying to use log-off trick to avoid combat. Games aren't supposed to be played like that. It's not a valid tactic.
auto warp is a good idea, as long as it doesn't happen instantly
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Neil Crow
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Posted - 2004.03.23 07:00:00 -
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Glad you got destroyed, ebil exploiter. You should die in those situations, no escort in low-sec or 0.0 space.
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Spike Spiegel
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Posted - 2004.03.23 07:28:00 -
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500 ark thats it??
Man back in the day when I was in FA, I lost 1200 ark to a m0o guy that was there, damn auto warp screwed me up. Thought I turned it off but oh well, you pay for your stupidity and well I paid that 40mil back then.
If you lost good mods and that then i'd feel sorry but not for 15-20min of work.
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Zarquon Beeblebrox
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Posted - 2004.03.23 10:30:00 -
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Edited by: Zarquon Beeblebrox on 23/03/2004 10:31:26
its "cheating" and utterly coward act to log out like that, to save your ship and cargo. You are the lowest char in the game sir and i hope your pod warped back when you loged in and was poded to.
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Grey Area
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Posted - 2004.03.23 10:44:00 -
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Oh, such mixed feelings about this post...I'm a total Carebear but...take some protection dammit...pirates are evil...logging off is cowardly...pirating is mean...argh!
Maybe if there were MORE "true" pirates and LESS "who gives a damn what you're carrying we're just going to pod you anyway" pirates, people might be more inclined to take their chances. I have the highest respect for the true "highwaymen" (OK maybe not at the EXACT moment I'm handing over my hard-earned ISK, but you get my point), and nothing but contempt for the psychotic "Pod! Pod! Pod!" crowd who just indiscriminately blow up everything that moves. Go play Unreal Tournament for God's sake, and leave us grown-ups alone.
Sheesh, if that don't get me flamed, nothing will....
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Fester Addams
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Posted - 2004.03.23 14:52:00 -
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The problem isnt autowarp, its the fect that you didnt check the map properly.
If you had done that you wouldnt have jumped into the blockade.
In short dont blame your own mistake on the game mechanics.
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.03.23 15:16:00 -
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<Angry post, cursing exploiters. Make something up for yourselves - I'm not good at smacktalk, flamewars and similar, but hopefully you get my point...>
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toaster
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Posted - 2004.03.23 16:46:00 -
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agreeing with a few posters here. Logging in cloak is a loathsome tactic, but happens all too often. Soulstinger hangs around my area of space sometimes, so it is especially crappy now that I know he does this.
If I catch you logging I will PK you Soulstinger. We toll when we can, but definitely pod kill loggers. Believe me when I say I understand why you would log to save your butt, but it's such a cowardly tactic that I have to PK you on principal alone. Bad planning = face the music.
We've all made tactical/planning mistakes in the past, and most of us have lost ships as a result. That's just the game.
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Soulstinger
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Posted - 2004.03.24 14:10:00 -
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Wah wah wah, logging is bad wah wah. Just because none of you can summon the neccesary brainpower to think your ways out wet paper bags doesnt mean you have a right to screw up everyone else's day. EVE devs are way out of line with this game anyway, making it definatly sure to have no way out. Game's hard enough to get through and succeed without societal rejects wanting to feel important coming to undo what you have acheived for the express reason of doing so. I must agree with soem of the more rational people on these forums, go play some FPS game where your need to let your anger for daddy not loving you is justified and helpfull. Flame away, assorted people with nothing better to do but scream at every post on forums.
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Harisdrop
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Posted - 2004.03.24 14:51:00 -
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Beutiful. The game has come to a great place in time. With risk is reward.
Notice: If you dont know what your doing dont do it.
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.03.24 15:00:00 -
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The reason why I hate this kind of tactics, is that it's using an out-of-game method to escape danger. If you had mounted a cloaking device on your ship and used that to get past the blockade, I had not reacted at all (yes, I know the cloaking device is not in yet).
Of course, sometimes the game crashes during a fight or similar - but with the autowarp you don't have any reason to log out to escape a fight, since if you stay you can deal more damage to the enemy, perhaps self-destruct to prevent looting or be able to park your pod at a safespot.
I'm glad they prevented this lame tactic with autowarp...
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Estios
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Posted - 2004.03.24 15:02:00 -
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to the poster - you would have died anyway mate, period.
The autowarp thing can be annoying if you CTD but it also goes some way to stop folks all logging in cloaked and surveying a battle area for a minute with no risk.
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Nuladen
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Posted - 2004.03.24 15:03:00 -
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Soulstinger, I guess you ought to read your own reply, it applies quite well.
Nul.
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Ma'at
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Posted - 2004.03.24 15:06:00 -
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its fun to kill, its fun to run.
if your going to log, why the hell are you playing.
you are the worst kind of gamer, you should stick to single player games, preferably one with a 'godlike' cheat.
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Auman
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Posted - 2004.03.24 15:47:00 -
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If you were flying through 0.0 space with valuable cargo without an escort you kind of deserve what you got. 0.0 space is supposed to be dangerous you shouldn't be able to fly around in an hauler 23/7 without any danger what so ever.
Logging off to avoid a blockade/fight is lame. I would think it encourages pirates to gank everything instead of holding people ransom.
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Veronica Anselmo
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Posted - 2004.03.25 00:53:00 -
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thats prolly the biggest carebearer ******* yet
this game is made this way and if its not "easy" enough for ya don't play or practise more stop crying for a tiny isk loss this is a multiplayer game i guess in a single player u could just retunr to the save and dont go that way but thats not eve deal with it punk
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Toastmaster
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Posted - 2004.03.25 01:14:00 -
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from the begining it should been like if you logg off its an act of movement and you uncloak anyway... And those who was logging before this autowarp got here to fix stuff everyone who logged was exploiting and CCP ban ppl for exploiting so be glad that you only lost your ship and not the account
"viper zulu > toast has killed our whole corporation ships at least once"
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Razaelle
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Posted - 2004.03.25 06:40:00 -
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Auto-warp has been implemented specifically to counter those using this lame tactic you use... So I find it quite ironic that you come here to cry about this...
Ok let's be constructive.
You made an error. Learn from it.
Whining will get you nowhere. Understanding what error you made will make you better.
Learn and adapt. That's all.
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McWatt
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Posted - 2004.03.25 10:13:00 -
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Auto-warp has been implemented specifically to counter those using this lame tactic you use... So I find it quite ironic that you come here to cry about this...
seconded.
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Rodge
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Posted - 2004.03.25 10:57:00 -
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Have to give him some credit though.
Not only did he come on to the CCP official forum and admit that he uses exploits, but he's complaining that his exploit doesn't work anymore! 
10 out of 10 for cheek mate!
[ 2005.04.17 00:34:30 ] Nagilam > u better leave Rodge, u will not gank any1 else 2nite......
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Grey Area
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Posted - 2004.03.29 13:54:00 -
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OK, unless this was another example of stealth-nerfing, then I don't think the auto-warp WAS implemented to stop cowardly log-offs - it was more to "save" people who got disconnected by their ISP whilst in active combat (or at least that's the way I saw it). I never got an answer as to whether a warp jammer would prevent this type of warp or whether it was excluded somehow.
I still have some feelings for both sides. I can understand the experiences with the cretinous "kill everything" brigade that lead to combat-dodging, but I don't agree with it and wouldn't use it myself. I think it's true that some PVP'ers were the first to start using exploits (thus denigrating themselves to the standard of mere "griefers"), but it's not acceptable to fight one exploit by using another.
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.03.29 13:58:00 -
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Ha, you deserved that. Loging out to survice, how lame!!!
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JackDonkey
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Posted - 2004.03.29 22:26:00 -
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EVE devs are way out of line with this game anyway, making it definatly sure to have no way out.
Agreed if warp scramblers can scramble you 100% of the time. Guns should just do 100 damage every 5 seconds.
Here's my idea on warp scrambling and such: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=67462
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EveJunkie
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Posted - 2004.03.30 16:02:00 -
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I never got an answer as to whether a warp jammer would prevent this type of warp or whether it was excluded somehow.
If you're warp scrambled you wont auto warp out.
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lash
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Posted - 2004.03.30 16:09:00 -
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You would have died anyway. Logging out takes 2 minutes to make your ship disapear. Cloaking only last 1 minute. Then it probably took you a good 25 seconds to descide to log out after jumping through so you were pretty much a gonner once you hit esc.
Best move you could have attempted would be to try to warp to something. Really anything would have been better what you did.
And dont mean to sound like an ass, but really you deserved what you got. Atleast take the bullet like a man/woman and dont hide behind your lame logging out tricks.
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