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synK Caldari VITA. Drakeal Federation	Posted - 2008.01.18 19:59:00 - [1] hi, in a few hours i can fly these beasts fully T2 ( apart form guns which are 2 short weeks for rails and blasters, for now im using faction) considering the last setup thread is a year old i was wondering if there were any changes in basic setups. so far i understand it as Guns PVP fit ( scram, web, MWD, cap injector) TANK 2x Repp 2x Rep Rigs? thants all i really know, what else in the lows, MAG STABS and hardners are pretty certain, maybe a damage control? anyhelp would be great, imonline if any1 can chat me thru it! this is my sig
Vim Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.01.18 20:11:00 - [2] 2xMARII 1xDC2 1xEx hardenerII 2xMFSII /* Whats a guy got to do to get a smile off around here */ <a href="http://www.glitteryourway.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/180/glitteryourway0459c69bdu2.gif" al
synK Caldari VITA. Drakeal Federation	Posted - 2008.01.18 20:17:00 - [3] MFS II? sorry, im caldari, dont understand this armor talk lol this is my sig
Alha Qmar Caldari Xenon Logistics	Posted - 2008.01.18 20:24:00 - [4] A question related to the astarte, how many dps can it tank succesfully? Can it withstand lets say a blastermega? How is it compared to the eos?
synK Caldari VITA. Drakeal Federation	Posted - 2008.01.18 20:27:00 - [5] i dont know, these are things id like ot know about! this is my sig
enymphia Malevolent Creation.	Posted - 2008.01.18 20:40:00 - [6] Edited by: enymphia on 18/01/2008 20:42:08 Originally by: Alha Qmar A question related to the astarte, how many dps can it tank succesfully? Can it withstand lets say a blastermega? How is it compared to the eos? The astarte can't tank that well tbh, doubt u will tank a neutron blaster mega with whatever setup. Same goes for the eos, the gallente command ships doesnt have as good tanks as the other command ships Imo. MFS II = Magnetic field Stabilizer II = moar dps :] Standard astarte setup: 6x neutron blasters II 1x Ion blaster II 24km point web MWD cap injector w/ 800's 2x MAR II 1x Dmg control II 1x Explosive hardner II 2x MFS II or 1x MFS II and EAMN II PG rig and Rep amount rig is used IIRC
Vim Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.01.18 20:41:00 - [7] Edited by: Vim on 18/01/2008 20:41:20 MFS=Magnetic Field Stabilizer aka magstab It wont holdup to a blastermega for long imo. /* Whats a guy got to do to get a smile off around here */ <a href="http://www.glitteryourway.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/180/glitteryourway0459c69bdu2.gif" al
Lorz0r You're Doing It Wrong	Posted - 2008.01.18 20:43:00 - [8] there really aren't that many ships can can tank a neutron mega for long
synK Caldari VITA. Drakeal Federation	Posted - 2008.01.18 20:43:00 - [9] im not fussed about an insane tank tbh, ive got my vulture for that, my NH for PVE, so in terms of Gank, is it better than the average? what DPS can i expect? and how good does it perform in a gang? this is my sig
Lorz0r You're Doing It Wrong	Posted - 2008.01.18 20:48:00 - [10] it has the highest possible DPS of all the command ships but as usual it's very close range and the tank isn't amazing but still prolly better than the sleipnir
Klavayne Free Mercenaries Union FreeFall Securities	Posted - 2008.01.18 21:06:00 - [11] Just something to note, the astarte remains exactly identical to before the trinity expansion. Therefore all the setups are still perfectly valid, also just because it started a year ago, doesn't mean every post is from a year ago too.
synK Caldari VITA. Drakeal Federation	Posted - 2008.01.18 23:01:00 - [12] thanks for all the info guys, will go towards a pretty pwnable ship i expect. this is my sig
Guer	Posted - 2008.01.19 01:04:00 - [13] probably a waste to fit tackle mods on a command ship. Let other gangmates do that. And if you're running around solo in a CS, well thats just asking to get jumped.
Bellum Eternus Gallente Death of Virtue Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.01.19 01:34:00 - [14] After flying Blasterthrons and Blasterhypes for a while, I've found the Astarte to be a little lacking for what I do. For starters it only has 18 sensor strength. It gets jammed a lot easier than most battleships, and the Hype has the added benefit of a 5th mid for ECCM if you like. The Astarte's raw hitpoints are rather lacking, even with a HG Slave set. As for DPS, with 7x Neutron IIs and 2x Magstab IIs, you're looking at comparable gun DPS to a Hype w/ 8x Ion IIs and one Magstab, which is to say, not bad. But that's with maxed skills of course. The main issue is tank. Even with dual reps, it just can't take that much DPS, and with it's relatively low HP (plate setups really don't work) you can't stay on the field that long before you go down. Cargo space is another problem. You can't hold that many 800 charges, and you go through them like crazy with a 7x Neutron II/2x rep setup. Range is another issue. While you do get a range bonus from the CS skill, the optimal/falloff of medium blasters just isn't as good as that of heavy Ions or Neutrons. It really does make a difference. You have to get really close to a target to start doing solid DPS with an Astarte, while a Hype/Mega/Kronos can do healthy damage from more than twice the range. Astartes (and most CS for that matter) are best used in 0.0 or empire wars where the combination of speed and firepower is better suited to lighter targets. In low sec, if you're up against BS sized targets with lots of Raw HP and you have the added problem of gate guns, you're going to go down hard, as you just don't have the HP to absorb that kind of DPS. The problem with 0.0 is that you're going to be fighting nano ships a lot, and the Astarte also doesn't have the speed/agility to catch anything without completely running out of cap. By the time you get something within blaster distance, you've already run out of steam. If you limit yourself to smaller targets (i.e. BC on down) then it excels, as it packs BS firepower in a smaller faster locking package, but going toe to toe with a BS will just get you a dead Astarte. Bellum Eternus [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y I I

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