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Rumpelstilski
Caldari The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.01.24 10:37:00 -
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As I promised :) http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=689578&page=2#40
Eve has witnessed that even a major power like BoB can be killed within Eve Online through a negative public opinion. In a similar manner (although a lot less glamorous) KOS has been KOS'd (forgive the pun) as the least valuable member of a southern coalition - effectively giving the green light to more valuable members(?) of the coalition to take their systems.
In a dog-eat-dog world someone is always "weakest" and "contributes the least" to mutual efforts and someone is always rising to power and needs more space. The public opinion usually determines who is "the weakest link", which often but not always has anything to do with actual strength - just like in the popular show.
We are here to gauge that public opinion and find .. the weakest link! In roughly alphabetical order to ensure fairness:
- AAA
- Blackout
- BOS
- CVA
- DMC
- Goonswarm
- Ka Tet
- KW
- RA
- Sylph
- TCF
- UNL
Please share opinions 
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Xerpex
Ars ex Discordia
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Posted - 2008.01.24 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: Rumpelstilski
Eve has witnessed that even a major power like BoB can be killed within Eve Online through a negative public opinion.
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Agmar
Game-Over Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.01.24 10:45:00 -
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Karma police? ________________ What I say does represent my corp.
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Sul Condbax
Open Season
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Posted - 2008.01.24 10:47:00 -
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Are you saying that BoB is dead already?
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Olavane Riftsnake
Clan Shadow Wolf Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.24 10:48:00 -
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Our space is crap no one want it doh!

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Zorland
Minmatar Detinus Republic
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Posted - 2008.01.24 10:50:00 -
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Edited by: Zorland on 24/01/2008 10:52:58 Edited by: Zorland on 24/01/2008 10:51:01 I'd say UNL, but they are Russians (kinda) so..... It's really hard to say. I think I'll bet my money on -A- removing Black Out next. Btw you missed IAC on your list
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Diekraft
Minmatar D00M.
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Posted - 2008.01.24 10:50:00 -
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Bobs not dead yet...
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umop 3pisdn
Minmatar Fnck the blob.
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Posted - 2008.01.24 10:55:00 -
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BOS is paying for its new home, maybe you should do the same.
There is always someone who contributes the least, its meant to be the smallest entity.
You are one of the largest and you contribute: Nothing I guess killing you might drive the price of isk from ebay up a bit but really, I dont think many people will care.
You are a little out of touch. DMC is on its way to empire. CVA isnt part of the coalition. You missed about a million alliances who currently have you set blue... Stop screaming to COAD for someone to care, you have the numbers, defend your space or die quietly.
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Rumpelstilski
Caldari The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.01.24 10:56:00 -
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Originally by: Diekraft Bobs not dead yet...
BoB is dead in the eyes of quite a lot of southern coalition members. For all practical purposes of this discussion that is enough. It's certainly dead in the eyes of AAA or those 60 dreads, carriers and moms, not to mention titans and 150 supporting BSes, would be blasting away around PR- and not in Tenerifis.
Goons could surely use those caps and BSes down in Delve 
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Zorland
Minmatar Detinus Republic
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Posted - 2008.01.24 10:58:00 -
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Edited by: Zorland on 24/01/2008 11:06:03 Edited by: Zorland on 24/01/2008 10:58:29
Originally by: umop 3pisdn BOS is paying for its new home, maybe you should do the same.
There is always someone who contributes the least, its meant to be the smallest entity.
You are one of the largest and you contribute: Nothing I guess killing you might drive the price of isk from ebay up a bit but really, I dont think many people will care.
You are a little out of touch. DMC is on its way to empire. CVA isnt part of the coalition. You missed about a million alliances who currently have you set blue... Stop screaming to COAD for someone to care, you have the numbers, defend your space or die quietly.
So why does your main care about price of ISK on Ebay? Is that why you are going to remove all entities out of drone regions? Is that why you are killing KOS?
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Rumpelstilski
Caldari The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.01.24 10:59:00 -
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Umop, you are right about KOS - you will not see a lot of griefing on forums, though. My bad, DMC was killed by RA and Ka Tet CVA is a friend of the south and a holder of 0.0 space so they are on the list. Those not holding 0.0 space in a significant number of systems didn't come on the list.
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Diekraft
Minmatar D00M.
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Posted - 2008.01.24 10:59:00 -
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bob is hanging on and anything can happen in the next couple of weeks, this is eve after all 
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ZENZATION
MeMento.
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Posted - 2008.01.24 11:00:00 -
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Originally by: Rumpelstilski
Originally by: Diekraft Bobs not dead yet...
BoB is dead in the eyes of quite a lot of southern coalition members. For all practical purposes of this discussion that is enough. It's certainly dead in the eyes of AAA or those 60 dreads, carriers and moms, not to mention titans and 150 supporting BSes, would be blasting away around PR- and not in Tenerifis.
Goons could surely use those caps and BSes down in Delve 
bob isnt dead and you are the weakest link,goodbye.
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Howling Jinn
Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk Amarr branch.
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Posted - 2008.01.24 11:11:00 -
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sylph and cva are blue to iac. thats it. last time i checked, 1 whole day ago cva had gs at -10 and gs and cva exchanged fire in providence.
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Adril Alatar
Minmatar Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.01.24 11:19:00 -
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Originally by: Rumpelstilski Edited by: Rumpelstilski on 24/01/2008 10:59:56 CVA - EDIT: already killed by RA and Ka Tet, disregard
i stopped reading there.
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Danno
Filthy Scum
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Posted - 2008.01.24 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: Sul Condbax Are you saying that BoB is dead already?
i'm guessing he doesnt mean dead but the power they held or the "institution" they created has been largely shattered, for now anyways.
i'm pretty sure you knew what he meant too but you wanted to express that in the way you did
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General StarScream
Borg Collective hive mind
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Posted - 2008.01.24 11:34:00 -
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Even tho i hate most of the top leaders in bob.
they have some Class members witch are as good as any eve player in terms of anything.
i have deep respecket for most bob members, and they will not lose delve.
BoB is the strongest alliance in the game. just look at the forces that are teaming up and fighting them.
even tho they aint all in delve, its hard to keep wast regions under your controll, with fuel, moral to fight for the space, and to keep unwanted people out.
BoB is fighting well, and they deserve alot of respect for that. even if they have done ****ty things to others in the past the deserve to have a future.
after bob Ra would be the second best alliance in game in terms of raw power. even tho they are close to taking bobs nr 1 spot, just due to there Great history, Ra is the alliance in the game i have the ut most respect for. Hard working united playing, and superb tactial play of there numbers. There History brings tears to my eyes.
while Goons lol well they prolly come in a good third due to them beeing goons. People offen say hahaha they have to blob to win, what a lack of pvp skills.
well its no diffrent from when those other people uses a Gang to gank smaller gang, with there supiror numbers.
every singel allaince in the game blobs, They bring the numbers they have at hand, and theres nothing wrong with that.
nr 4 i would say Bruce. very strong and loyal member base, hard working, and seem to be able to controll them self and unite to a common goal.
Fountain was maybe not the best defended space at the time they took it, but they used there brains and figured they had a good succes rate at taking it. gl to anyone whom tryes to take it from em in the future.
claiming vast amounts of space, is not a good tactial option. its a waste, its better to have a good amount of space, but not to grow to big and lose sight of your playerbase.
Better to have 1 fish in your pot, than 10000s of fish in the sea with no knowlege of how to fish.
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Mips Nig
The Lost Prophets Euro Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.01.24 11:35:00 -
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So long as theres pvpers like the ones in BoB. BoB wont die so easily. They could be displaced but I'd wager they wont allow themselves to be displaced for too long. 
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thebold
MASS
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Posted - 2008.01.24 11:51:00 -
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Edited by: thebold on 24/01/2008 11:51:05 Edit: Ka-tet all ready is.
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duckmonster
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.24 11:59:00 -
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Edited by: duckmonster on 24/01/2008 12:00:49 The southern coalition isn't turning on KOS, just AAA who is not Southern Coalition, just friends.
And no, we won't attack CVA :rolleyes: CVA are brosefs.
Personally I'd like to beat up Tri. But hey, thats just me.
edit: BOS? BOS have been goonfleet buddies since we where in nappies. I don't think so some how. Unless BOS is a different BOS? -----------
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Keorythe
Caldari Terra Rosa Militia Sev3rance
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Posted - 2008.01.24 12:10:00 -
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I do believe you need to check your sources on who is actually in the southern coalition. Neither CVA nor Slyph participate in any coalition events that do not affect their sovereign areas nor take orders from any coalition alliances. According to their own hostile lists alot of those names listed up there are red to them.
There are plenty of people in the coalition that are bandwaggoning to be on the winning side. Most of those small time guys will drop the war like a hot iron if public opinion changes or they take some crazy losses. However, no coalition, federation, or alliance thats made this much progress has ever relied on those kinds of groups. Weak links get left in the dust while the rest move on.
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Darko1107
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.01.24 12:15:00 -
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Edited by: Darko1107 on 24/01/2008 12:15:39 I think they will take the space of whatever alliance you go to to make u whine a little more.
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.24 12:16:00 -
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Good call Rumpe, I'm thinking the Northern coalition should hit RSF before they turn on us. Cheers for the headsup ---
"Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Ponderous Thunderstroke
Republic War Machine Industries
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Posted - 2008.01.24 12:20:00 -
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Originally by: Fred0
Good call Rumpe, I'm thinking the Northern coalition should hit RSF before they turn on us. Cheers for the headsup
You might want to ***** open a history book and look at what happened the last time the NorCo tried to pre-emptively wipe out a Southern power.
Hint: It didn't work out quite as planned.
-- "PT, you are a complete and total jerk."
Yes. Yes I am.
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Ogodai John
The Bakhunov Family
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Posted - 2008.01.24 12:22:00 -
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Originally by: Ponderous Thunderstroke
Originally by: Fred0
Good call Rumpe, I'm thinking the Northern coalition should hit RSF before they turn on us. Cheers for the headsup
You might want to ***** open a history book and look at what happened the last time the NorCo tried to pre-emptively wipe out a Southern power.
Hint: It didn't work out quite as planned.
You are very good at spotting sarcasm.
Hint: That was sarcasm. |

BuIIseye
Amarr Pax Amarria Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.24 12:31:00 -
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Whatever alliance VOTF is joining
------------------------------ Yes i am hax0r
Because of the name I have a higher chance of a wrecking shot, please don't tell the GM's or they'll nerf me =/ |

Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.24 12:32:00 -
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Originally by: Ponderous Thunderstroke
Originally by: Fred0
Good call Rumpe, I'm thinking the Northern coalition should hit RSF before they turn on us. Cheers for the headsup
You might want to ***** open a history book and look at what happened the last time the NorCo tried to pre-emptively wipe out a Southern power.
? Please educate me. I'm serious and dunno what you are talking about. In the history of the north i remember one pre-emptive strike and that was on TPS in Tribute/Geminate IIRC, could be what 3 years ago. Worked out ok I think. Check with Dianabolic he knows more  ---
"Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Khorian
Gallente Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.01.24 12:38:00 -
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If BoB is dead right NOW, what is KoS then? Dead¦?
PS.: Your Alliance is gonna be killed off because it's home to isk farmers and a turncoat and doesn't contribute to the war and is weak and because no one likes you and no one cares.
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Pao Tui
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Posted - 2008.01.24 12:45:00 -
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Malibu Stacey
Gallente Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.01.24 12:48:00 -
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Originally by: Rumpelstilski
- AAA
- Blackout
- BOS
- CVA - sorry :)
<- not part of the Coalition
- DMC - EDIT: already killed by RA and Ka Tet, disregard
- Goonswarm
- Ka Tet
<- don't think they are part of the Coalition. Certainly not grouped under northern or southern blocs
- KW
<- who?
- RA
- Sylph
<- not part of the Coalition
- TCF
- UNL
Please share opinions 
I don't know whether I should be impressed or disheartened that we are left off your ridiculous list. You also left out the entire Northen bloc.
It's always useful to know what you're talking about before you post but I guess this is CAOD where actual information doesn't matter. --- Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
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