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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance
The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.01.24 16:47:00 -
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Currently, secure containers are the biggest in-space advertising; they're used pretty much everywhere in high-sec. Instead of these containers everywhere, corporations and players should be able to anchor billboards instead.
Why?
Immersion - An official player billboard system is better for immersion than seeing dozens of labelled secure containers
Lag Reduction - These billboards can have their attributes tailored so they use up approximately the same or even less server space than secure containers (billboards have no storage capacity, for one). Now normal secure containers could possibly be removed without affecting this method of advertising
Recruitment - These billboards could be a better tool for informing and recruiting than secure containers
Specifics
Each corporation or player will be limited in how many billboards they maintain, but as long as the corporation is active these billboards will remain unless removed by the owning player/corporation. In order to anchor billboards a skill must be trained. This skill will be a rank 3 or 4 skill and cannot be trained on trial accounts to prevent exploitation.
Billboards may only be anchored 100KM from stargates or stations, and must be anchored at least ten kilometers from the nearest object. Combined with simple LOD (level of detail) this prevents them from causing much graphical lag when warping to a stargate.
Each billboard will have several different settings that it can be set to when deployed, and affects the images it displays and it's category on the overview:
Warning - Has an appropriately cautionary image displayed (exclamation point, skull and crossbones, etc). You cannot attach any corporate or personal information to it, but they are enabled on the overview by default to (theoretically) assist new players.
Recruitment - Displays your corporate logo as the image and can also link to an official recruitment file (placed by the new corporate recruitment feature) in addition to corporate information.
Ownership - A simple, one-line claim of ownership that can link to information about a player, corporation, or alliance.
That sums up my current thoughts. I realize that this is a fairly low priority in lights of things like fleet lag, but I think it would be fairly simple to implement and wouldn't generate any more lag than a secure container. What do you think?
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Tarminic - 31 Million SP in Forum Warfare
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Shadow Tycho
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.01.24 16:57:00 -
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I like it. /signed
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Caiman Graystock
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.24 16:58:00 -
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Make them require fuel.
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Eleana Tomelac
Gallente
Through the Looking Glass
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Posted - 2008.01.24 17:00:00 -
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I think the number of such bilboards should be limited, or this could happen :
-everyone removes the billboard from the overview : no one looks at them as containers.
-Populated systems get 2000 billboards anchored at each stargate.
Which is bad.
But, there could be limited billboards that you could rent. Look in the cities, they allow limited advertizing, it is state/city controlled (depends on countries).
So, in station billboards are created and players can rent the space (increases with demande as offices).
Out of station billboards are added, some could be placed close to the stations, just a very few ones.
We keep official concord billboards at stargates and add very few ones on stargates to rent.
This way, any billboard spamming is avoided.
What I like most is the in station advertizing, it would give me something to read!
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Charlie Seriya
Gallente
Eve Defence Force
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.01.24 17:26:00 -
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/signed
But they should require fuel, including a LOT of charters.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2008.01.24 17:33:00 -
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Any means to reduce the amount of cans in systems and belts is welcome. *Any* means. I was ice mining in Abduban and not only was the lag terrifying, the ice belt looked from afar much like a huge yellow turd floating in space. Not nice to look at. Really, not nice. 
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance
The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.01.24 19:01:00 -
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I agree that there should be some limiting means, whether it's ISK, Charters, or Fuel.
The problem is that if the costs are too high or too inconvenient to maintain, people won't use them over secure cans, which is the entire point. By increasing the benefits we can increase the potential costs, but they cannot be so high that people won't use them.
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Wreth Saran
Caldari
Phantom Stallion Security Forces
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Posted - 2008.01.24 19:14:00 -
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Billboards would be awesome I think and why not let us be able to make use of the ones already at stargates? Might as well get rid of that "This space for rent" message eventually.
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Chomin H'ak
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Posted - 2008.01.24 19:37:00 -
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Why not have bilboards as a button; as there is for contracts, et.al. The problem with putting signs up all over space, is that there's signs all over space. A window which allows easy access to posts in system/constellation/region seems, imo, the better solution.
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Ris Dnalor
Minmatar
Ama-gi
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Posted - 2008.01.25 11:47:00 -
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Edited by: Ris Dnalor on 25/01/2008 11:47:42
meh, just let us run ads on the existing billboards. We would have to pay per system we wanted them in. Setup the fees like office rental fees, so that if all of the advertisment rotations for a current systems' billboard were taken then the price would continue to rise untill some ppl dropped out. The empty slots would be filled with the usual concord wanted posters, and of course they could have some permanently assigned NPC slots as well.
I'm sure jita would be pricey, as would starter systems. anyway, I think this would allow a new creative outlet in eve. provide a needed isk sink. And give us a reason to look at the billboards that are pretty much pointless and have been for 4+ years.
raise the priority on this one boys. it's not a neccessity but it would be fun.
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Noriko'n
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Posted - 2008.01.25 22:40:00 -
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I am definitely supporting the idea of button based billboards. Floating billboards don't sound bad either but imho those billboards should be doable by anyone even if you weren't necessarily for example in a corporation. You can create contracts without any extra hussle and it still works so why couldn't you create public freeform notes as well? Only difference there would be that instead of selling stuff you would put some of text in it and perhaps some ready-made icons etc.
I think that it is extremely stupid that EVE didn't already have billboards or something similar. If you can't efficiently market yourself in this kind of game it just doesn't make sense to me. This should be a game where you create your own goals and you choose your own ways to do them and that requires some sort of way to bring your ideas public. People have tried to get over it by creating secure containers in space and renaming them but isn't that just a little 'primitive' way to bring out your word? Even ultima online had billboards but EVE has only renamed secure containers??? 
Billboards would be very easy to create into the game and they would only make EVE better.
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Khanamotep
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Posted - 2008.01.25 22:45:00 -
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 Originally by: Chomin H'ak
Why not have bilboards as a button; as there is for contracts, et.al. The problem with putting signs up all over space, is that there's signs all over space. A window which allows easy access to posts in system/constellation/region seems, imo, the better solution.
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance
The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.01.26 03:19:00 -
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Originally by: Noriko'n
I am definitely supporting the idea of button based billboards. Floating billboards don't sound bad either but imho those billboards should be doable by anyone even if you weren't necessarily for example in a corporation. You can create contracts without any extra hussle and it still works so why couldn't you create public freeform notes as well? Only difference there would be that instead of selling stuff you would put some of text in it and perhaps some ready-made icons etc.
That's entirely possible actually - you could just create another category for that.
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