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dalman
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Posted - 2004.03.25 16:41:00 -
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Fix plz.
Issue seems to be with the Sansha Lord (500k), maybe other Sanshas too.
But these NPCs often drop "medium beam laser I", a small weapon...
It kinda ****es you off to get a standard small laser instead of a named large one.
Oh, and they love to drop standard 1 MN AB too...
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |

XpoHoc
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Posted - 2004.03.25 16:45:00 -
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I had a pc Megathron dropping medium projectiles... maybe the devs should look into that aswell 
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FileCop AI
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Posted - 2004.03.25 18:51:00 -
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Well, Sansha drop a LOT of ****ty frigate loot and basic equipment. Can't be right - and definately not fair.
FileCop AI of MASS Co-CEO |

Phaethon
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Posted - 2004.03.25 19:06:00 -
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Edited by: Phaethon on 06/04/2004 09:44:11 You just had the unfortunate experience of killing a real n00b npc :) All his friends make fun of him constantly because he's soo bad at equipping his ships.
WTB. Infifitrator I drones |

dalman
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Posted - 2004.03.25 20:32:00 -
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Quote: You just had the unfortunate experience of killing a real n00b npc :) All his friends make fun of him, cause he's soo bad a equipping his ships.
Nah, I see what their tactic is... Usual drop from an NPC may be Heavy cap injector, armor plate, smartbomb, laser and MWD.
They use cap injectors to be able to move all the way over and then do huge damage with L smartbombs and small weapons from very short range.
Only problem with this theory is... how the heck do they travel at 900 m/s when using a frigate sized MWD?

M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |

Kathira
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Posted - 2004.03.25 22:12:00 -
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Yeah got some marvellous Miner I from 85 k mission pirates.
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voogru
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Posted - 2004.03.26 11:45:00 -
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I like the 85k caracal that I had to really fight in my little frigate (incursus or whatever), and I saw the wonderful can, then one second later *poof* no more can.
And I wasnt using missiles. ------- Your 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun perfectly strikes Guardian Enforcer, wrecking for 827.3 damage. |

Marcus Aurelius
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Posted - 2004.03.26 17:16:00 -
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Quote: Yeah got some marvellous Miner I from 85 k mission pirates.
Oh, dont worry about that. All high bounty pirates drop crappy loot. You wouldn't believe the stack of miner I's i've looted from Arch Angel Centurions.
And something else: them Arch Angel 85K tech2 cruiser rats drop basic cargo expanders like mad. Light missiles, assault launchers, 1Mn AB's and the whole scala of frigate loot finds its way into their cans.
I always try to think that there must have been 20 frigates in that belt just before i warped in and that them cruiser killed and looted them.
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.03.31 11:12:00 -
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BUMPAGE
THE SANSHA LORD(500k) IS BUGGED
IT'S DROPPING STANDARD LARGE WEAPONS AS IT SHOULD, BUT INSTEAD OF DROPPING META VERSIONS OF THESE WEAPONS THEY DROP STANDARD MEDIUM BEAM LASER 1 (small gun).    
FIX.
(yea, I AM that mad, after killing LOTS of these)
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |

Busko Moonwalker
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Posted - 2004.03.31 11:21:00 -
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we heard u the first time. Typical caldari.
Its not only the 500k lord that is buged then i crap loot form all kind of pirats.
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.03.31 11:39:00 -
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Quote: we heard u the first time. Typical caldari.
Its not only the 500k lord that is buged then i crap loot form all kind of pirats.
NO, you didn't.
That you get "crap loot" is one thing.
That the loot table for the Sansha Lord is bugged is another. In the loot table, where a meta large beam is supposed to be, it instead picks "medium beam laser 1".
THAT'S A VERY BIG DIFFERENCE.
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |

Orestes
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Posted - 2004.03.31 12:04:00 -
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This ain't the place to rant, people..
Join the IC! |

dalman
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Posted - 2004.03.31 12:11:00 -
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Quote: This ain't the place to rant, people..
Well, if you can tell me how I do to get a dev check and correct the loot table for the Sansha Lord, then you can lock/delete how much you want
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.03.31 12:45:00 -
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dalman, you're Caldari.
This means any issues you raise will be ignored until an Amarr posts about it.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Judicator
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Posted - 2004.03.31 13:45:00 -
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Quote: dalman, you're Caldari.
This means any issues you raise will be ignored until an Amarr posts about it.
^^
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Maule
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Posted - 2004.04.01 01:07:00 -
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Quote: dalman, you're Caldari.
This means any issues you raise will be ignored until an Amarr posts about it.
Fix the loot tables..
here you go.. a Amarr posted about it.. now fix it.. I¦m tired of finding frigate sized mwd¦s in a Commodore (1mil npc)
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2004.04.01 03:34:00 -
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Blood Raider suffer from this as well. _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf |

Czar Marcus
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Posted - 2004.04.01 07:28:00 -
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Edited by: Czar Marcus on 01/04/2004 07:29:18
What happens when you destroy a ship is it drops only a portion of the items it had in it's cargo and modules that it had on the ship.
This means , if you're going into a combat situation and you don't want the opponent to get your good guns when you're destroyed, fill your cargo with a bunch of small ammo, small weapons, throw in a basic miner or two, and you'll be ready to go kamikazee.
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.04.01 09:09:00 -
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So you're telling me that the Sansha Lord has it's cargobay filled with standard large guns and standard small guns, and that's the reason why this NPC NEVER drop meta turrets? 
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |

Baggam
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Posted - 2004.04.01 10:47:00 -
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I must admit the drop tables do need some looking at CCP
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Killash Larz
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Posted - 2004.04.01 13:02:00 -
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Never having fought a Sansha Lord I wonder if they fire at your ship using small to medium lasers too? or do they hit you with big then magicaly drop the small ones?
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.04.01 15:04:00 -
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Quote: Never having fought a Sansha Lord I wonder if they fire at your ship using small to medium lasers too? or do they hit you with big then magicaly drop the small ones?
No, they have 45 km optimal range and 15 km falloff range.
They drop standard dual heavy beams, standard mega beams, and standard medium beam laser 1.
It seems very obvious that they are by mistake dropping these small lasers instead of meta versions of dual heavy beam and mega beam (I've killed and looted lots of them without EVER finding a named turret) (and I've killed lots of all the Sansha and Gurista battleships). That's what needs to be fixed.
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |

Yggdrassil
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Posted - 2004.04.01 19:40:00 -
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I've asked this question before, regarding Blood BS's.
The answer was that they'd done it that way not to destroy the market for producers...
Doesn't make much sense to me though... As I got a BUNCH of heavy cap injectors, 1600mm, large repairers etc. etc....
So - I just don't buy it, really.
FIX it, please :) Yggdrassil |

Falnaerith
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Posted - 2004.04.01 20:39:00 -
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Now see you go to all that trouble killing those big npcs, while I can log an alt, hop in a merlin and get the exact same loot from frigs in empire. Now if they increased the bounty for frig npcs, there would be no reason to go into 0.0 at all. ------------------- Basic truths? Idiots make us rich. - Some people are only alive because it is illegal to kill them. |

Ka Dargo
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Posted - 2004.04.05 03:24:00 -
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Had the same problem last night with a 500k Serp (Guardian Enforcer-Megathron) loot was worthless, but item out of 1x500k,2x85k,8x7.5k spawn was a 23ms named overdrive. Also if these high end serps shoot missles, shouldn't they be able to drop missle launchers?
We got better loot from a 250k Serp Dominix, and that was only a Large ion blaster. |

Lallante
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Posted - 2004.04.07 03:34:00 -
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whats that you say? a named seige AND a c5l xl in the SAME 500k rat can?
On a tuesday? surely not.
hehe i think your just unlucky
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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ElCoCo
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Posted - 2004.04.07 20:01:00 -
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Gurista BS's in TQ still drop 1mn mwd and abs 
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