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BH Hurricane
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Posted - 2004.03.25 16:50:00 -
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This does not happen to everyone all the time.
We need reproducible steps here. Here is what we have heard.
Created an Amarr fighter, started in Chaven, and it happened.
However, a second character we tried (female this time) Amarr fighter in Chaven and it worked fine.
Anyone have any more information on this that will help us reproduce this everytime?
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Alex Sharp
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Posted - 2004.03.25 18:52:00 -
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I started an alt (Caldari) and it worked fine. Started a Gallente alt and it broke. Sorry can't be more help. I see no pattern here.
FYI - the starting ship for the tutorial now starts out with the civ gun and miner OFFLINE. I feel the tutorial needs to include explanation of the offline/online changes that were implemented.
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BH Hurricane
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Posted - 2004.03.25 19:19:00 -
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Thanks for your feedback. This is helpful.
Anyone else? __________ Hurricane Bug Hunter Lead |

Aronis Contar
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Posted - 2004.03.26 01:44:00 -
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Edited by: Aronis Contar on 26/03/2004 01:46:29 Created a Caldari Deteis in Todaki, it was broken. Modules were offline for me as well.
I'll try it again with the same school, this time being extra careful to do exactly what I'm told by the tutorial (might have been a bit hasty the first time :-) )
Ciao, Aronis!
PS: I'll also turn the logserver on... maybe there's something ugly happening here silently.
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BH Hurricane
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Posted - 2004.03.26 02:24:00 -
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Again thanks for the feedback. I'm looking forward to it. I'd like to have CCP QA find this new feedback when they come back to the office 7-8 hours from now.
Thanks
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Aronis Contar
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Posted - 2004.03.26 04:01:00 -
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Just made a new character ("Tutorial Tester"), and went through the tutorial up to the point where I was told to dock. It seems to me the tutorial went through fine!
Things I noticed:
- When you are first told how to navigate your ship around by double clicking on the background, if you get to close to the roid floating next to you, the tutorial will skip a bit ahead, directly to the mining part. I did not move close to the roid when I recorded the log, I waited till I was told to do so.
- When you are told to start mining the roid, you get a graphic showing the high slots of your ship. Initially however, the mid slots are displayed. Telling the player what the three blue dots above the speed gauge do would help here.
- Modules were offline. Also, when I clicked on the offline miner to mine the roid, it mined it empty - but after it deactivated, it appeared to go offline again - but actually (and correctly) stayed online. Seems to be a display error.
- Shooting the drone proved to take a while - hitting it is not easy for a noob character :-)
- It's a long time since I did my tutorial thoroughly, but wasn't there a drone that you had to disable and scoop up?
- Telling the player to find the station by looking for a square icon is not the best idea - in Todaki, you have the moon, planet, station and training ground icon on top of each other, and they are all very dim since they are far away. Maybe the right click->stations->... would be better.
- The player is told that he should right click on the school and choose Warp To. It is omitted that different warp to distances are available now.
So, even though it went fine this time, I'll post the logs here for you to look at. The first one, named "CharGen", is the character generation up to the point where I was back at the character selection screen (I guess that one's not of interest, but just in case...), the second one, labeled "Tutorial", is from me clicking on my character's portait up to the point where I came out of warp at the station.
http://animus.brinkster.net/eve/logs/TutorialLogs.zip
I will try this again with another character soon. It irks me 
Ciao, Aronis!
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BH Hurricane
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Posted - 2004.03.26 08:09:00 -
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Thanks I have passed your information on to the devs.
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BH Hurricane
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Posted - 2004.03.26 08:42:00 -
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We have isolated the problem with tutorial and ejecting ore.
We have no confirmed ETA but I am personally expecting a server-side fix in the next few days.
* Hurricane crosses fingers for sooner.
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Aronis Contar
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Posted - 2004.03.26 18:07:00 -
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w00t!
Well, that was fast 
Ciao, Aronis!
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