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Thent Duxll	Posted - 2008.01.26 10:32:00 - [1] This may be something thats going to make me look stupid. If there are 2 (or more) buy orders at the same price in the same station, how does the market decide who gets the deal? Discussed this in corp, nobody had a clue. Somebody must know.
Quilan Mesura Pangalactic United Trading	Posted - 2008.01.26 10:47:00 - [2] afaik the older one - same with sell orders
Robacz Essence Trade Essence Enterprises	Posted - 2008.01.26 10:47:00 - [3] I never tried it, but I believe it is by order age. First in, first out - older order gets priority.
EBANK Ricdic Eve-Tech Savings n Loans	Posted - 2008.01.26 11:12:00 - [4] Originally by: Robacz I never tried it, but I believe it is by order age. First in, first out - older order gets priority. That was what I always believed as well. However I have noticed with the R2R project that modifying my orders resets the order timer. So let's say I have 5 days pass on a 90 day buy order. It shows 85 days. I then do a modification and it shows my order date back at 90 days. I didn't spend too much time looking into it but it did seem a little bizarre. Maybe I missed something.
Thent Duxll	Posted - 2008.01.26 11:12:00 - [5] That seems logical, but this is Eve so you never know. Anyone actually tested it?
Quilan Mesura Pangalactic United Trading	Posted - 2008.01.26 11:14:00 - [6] only tested with sell orders - but thought it would be same with buy orders
Thent Duxll	Posted - 2008.01.26 11:18:00 - [7] modified orders being put to the end of the line sounds fair, in effect you are creating a new order if you change it.
Robacz Essence Trade Essence Enterprises	Posted - 2008.01.26 11:19:00 - [8] Originally by: EBANK Ricdic Originally by: Robacz I never tried it, but I believe it is by order age. First in, first out - older order gets priority. That was what I always believed as well. However I have noticed with the R2R project that modifying my orders resets the order timer. So let's say I have 5 days pass on a 90 day buy order. It shows 85 days. I then do a modification and it shows my order date back at 90 days. I didn't spend too much time looking into it but it did seem a little bizarre. Maybe I missed something. Yeah when you update your order it puts you on the end of queue.
Destructive Dave	Posted - 2008.01.26 11:23:00 - [9] I once put in a buy order station range at the same price of an older order which was set to region range. My order was getting filled. Dont know the result with both station only range?
Thent Duxll	Posted - 2008.01.26 11:35:00 - [10] Originally by: Destructive Dave I once put in a buy order station range at the same price of an older order which was set to region range. My order was getting filled. Dont know the result with both station only range? Hmm that complicates things, looks like I'm going to have to run some tests
FastLearner Fury Holdings Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.01.26 11:53:00 - [11] Originally by: Destructive Dave I once put in a buy order station range at the same price of an older order which was set to region range. My order was getting filled. Dont know the result with both station only range? Yeah, that seems to happen sometimes. You can also queue-jump by putting up a 30-day order when the existing one is a 90-day one. But neither of these seems to be totally consistent.
Sphynx Stormlord Gallente Anqara Tech	Posted - 2008.01.26 11:55:00 - [12] Two orders dont have the same price. If you put up a second order with the same price as another order, the price gets changed from what you type in by .001 isk.
Mortymer Blackbyrd	Posted - 2008.01.26 11:56:00 - [13] Originally by: Destructive Dave I once put in a buy order station range at the same price of an older order which was set to region range. My order was getting filled. Dont know the result with both station only range? Unable to check currently due to downtime, but I believe not only manual modifications but also someone filling your order resets the timer. Meaning that, manual modifications aside, in a tied price situation you would get every other deal while your competitor would get the rest. Which actually sounds rather fair and well thought-out.
Destructive Dave	Posted - 2008.01.26 12:04:00 - [14] Originally by: Mortymer Blackbyrd Unable to check currently due to downtime, but I believe not only manual modifications but also someone filling your order resets the timer. Meaning that, manual modifications aside, in a tied price situation you would get every other deal while your competitor would get the rest. Which actually sounds rather fair and well thought-out. So if this is true, you can effectively share the market with someone. I will do some tests
Thent Duxll	Posted - 2008.01.26 12:06:00 - [15] getting alternate deals is the outcome I was thinking about. A way to join a market without pushing the price. I hope this is true
Mortymer Blackbyrd Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2008.01.26 12:41:00 - [16] Apparently how it goes it that the oldest order always gets the deal, as many have stated in this thread. Order amount, actual time left, range etc. don't seem to have an effect. Too bad.
Billinda Gates	Posted - 2008.01.26 14:22:00 - [17] Buyorders = Range determins which order is on top (and gets the item). So region > 3 jumps > station e.t.c Sellorders = The sellorder with the shortest time left before it ends, will sell first.
Shadarle	Posted - 2008.01.26 16:40:00 - [18] Originally by: Mortymer Blackbyrd I believe ... someone filling your order resets the timer. Nope. And to Ricdic, you really didn't know that modifying an order reset the timer? Tanking Setups Compared Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained
EBANK Ricdic Eve-Tech Savings n Loans	Posted - 2008.01.27 03:17:00 - [19] Originally by: Shadarle Originally by: Mortymer Blackbyrd I believe ... someone filling your order resets the timer. Nope. And to Ricdic, you really didn't know that modifying an order reset the timer? Before my R2R project started I had barely ever done raw trading before. So no
Shadarle	Posted - 2008.01.27 03:24:00 - [20] Originally by: EBANK Ricdic Originally by: Shadarle Originally by: Mortymer Blackbyrd I believe ... someone filling your order resets the timer. Nope. And to Ricdic, you really didn't know that modifying an order reset the timer? Before my R2R project started I had barely ever done raw trading before. So no It's actually something I wish was changed. I'd rather the timer wasn't reset. Tanking Setups Compared Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.01.27 07:11:00 - [21] Actually, the way EVE does it is a bit simpler (and creepier). First off, most people think ISK in EVE is a quantity with 2 decimal points. Well, WRONG. In EVE, ISK values have four (4) decimal points. The easiest way to check this is look at your own raw character sheet XML. Basically, each time two orders match, EVE modifies the last two "hidden" decimal points so that no two orders ever get the same value. Of course, this is just (one of) my "creepy things EVE does" theories, and I'd like to see it put to the test. Anybody feel like setting up 100+ orders of same value in the same station for some item ? 1\|2\|3\|4\|5.
Robacz Essence Trade Essence Enterprises	Posted - 2008.01.27 08:56:00 - [22] Those 4 digits sometimes show on order modify dialog, but it seems to be random. I often get them on ammo orders, even though they do not share same price with other orders.
Mort Caseate Caldari Esoteric Industries	Posted - 2008.02.16 22:01:00 - [23] Edited by: Mort Caseate on 16/02/2008 22:08:15 Edited by: Mort Caseate on 16/02/2008 22:05:21 So. If someone else has a buy order set to, say, 561,332.01 ISK, what if you were to try typing in 561,332.0149 then it would appear that you both had the same price but yours would be ahead? EDIT: Based on the Modify Order Dialogue, when you change from, e.g. .1149 to .1150 it makes the change the "total change" goes from 0.00 to 0.02 ISK for two items. Hence you don't get to manipulate the 3rd and 4th decimal places yourself (Unless the total change is a lie) However, they are definitely there. The interesting question is, how are these decimal places allocated? If indeed each buy order is unique, and earlier orders take priority, then I guess the first order should get .1149, and then on down to .1050??? It's pretty weird =P

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