EVE Search - Oh the humanity

All Channels

Crime and Punishment

Oh the humanity

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: [1] 2 :: one page
Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Raul Watanabe	Posted - 2008.01.26 16:06:00 - [1] Well ive been playing EVE for about almost four months now and im at a stage now where im ready to try my hand at PVP. My first initial steps into low sec during my free trial resulted in the loss of a thorax at the hands of two experienced pilots and as a result i vowed to return to low sec when i had some actual good equipment and could afford to lose a ship or two. So fast forward to the present and i have an extremely tidy hanger with multiple battleships, battlecruisers, cruisers and frigates plus salvagers all with rigs fitted, 3 clones, two of which have full sets of +4s one with combat implants as well, the other clone has +3s and combat implants as well (im big on carrying spares)and my skill points stand at 5.8 million. So i decide that im going to fly my favourite ship which was my Myrmidon 'Crimson Dawn' out from Ignebaener into Aeschee with my main +4 implant guy. The ship setup was pretty decent with all tech 2 gear except guns but i had faction ammo and some faction hardeners and i felt confident that i could hold my own against a player with more experience, certainly i had used an earlier primitive setup in a sparring match against a much older player and he was quite impressed at the time so given the tweaking i had since done and the extra 2 mil in SPs i was looking forward to a nice bit of PVP killing and if i was gonna go down then it would be tough. Im ratting in the asteroid fields for a while and i guess my one big mistake was not watching the local to watch for groups of guys from the same corp or just general hardasses. A cruiser comes out of warp at 24 km range locks on me and comes straight at me warp jamming me in an instant. I launch my tech 2 hammerheads, use my fleeting web, medium nuet and medium nos and open fire. I see him taking more damage straight away and along with the energy drain im inflicting think to myself that i could win against this experienced pirate (he was flashing red :P ) that thought quickly vanished as 3 other ships (2 brutix class ships i think and some other thing) warped in around me and my ship took massive amounts of damage bringing me to my knees in seconds where upon they cease fire and demand 40 mil from me. It was at this point that i had the time to info my attackers and realised that it was four players from VETO with at least one guy with 3 years under his belt and all had security ratings around the -10 mark i think (doh!). i offered 16 mil saying its all i had (was true) and was asked for 40 again, stating that you cant get blood from a stone i focused on being super quick warping my pod when the time would come, right before my ship exploded i actually activated the self destruct cause ill be damned if anyone is gonna have the satisfaction lol. I did get my pod out thankfully saving the 100 mil in implants but my ship was lost and unfortunately my Amarr Navy Issue Nano membrane survived as my main antogonist thanked me afterwards reminding me gleefully of its value. Although somewhat irked i managed to refrain from smacktalk as did my attackers and i afterwards placed a 5000 isk bounty on the main guy Weedmasta as a bit of a joke which he seemed to find funny, i told him if he killed me again i might even crank it up to ten :D. Of course i realise now that in destroying my own ship at the last minute i denied myself valuable knowledge from the killmail . So there it is folks, i guess thats the luck of the draw i was in the wrong place at the wrong time it wont stop me from pursuing my dreams of PVP fun i just hope that my luck is a little better in future i hope you enjoyed my tale.
Ghost Nightmare Clan Eshin	Posted - 2008.01.26 16:14:00 - [2] Indeed, s**t happens
Stakhanov Metafarmers	Posted - 2008.01.26 16:16:00 - [3] In before tl;dr. (can't believe I read that post entirely ) I just hope it's not a pod or post pod or wall of text , now that would be cruel. Originally by: ivan draco we didnt want your post anyway
Adelorae24 Caldari Black Podding	Posted - 2008.01.26 16:41:00 - [4] I've got almost 20 Mil SP and I don't even waste money on faction mods. There's always a group of 3 or 4 guys with 90+ Mil SP between them that can pwn you. Solo pvp is about being able to afford what you loose. You only had 16 Mil isk to pay for the bounty while flying a ship that cost many many times that much. Get a thorax, kit it out with T2, and stay fleet of foot... Alien (1979): "Before we dock, I think we ought to discuss the bonus situation."
Maverick 52	Posted - 2008.01.26 17:11:00 - [5] 6 mil SP with battleships, faction gear, multiple clones w/ expensive implants. That screams carebear. PvP isn't like missions, if you're not aware of your souroundings your gonna get your butt kicked in no time flat. Best advice for you is to keep it cheap until you get the hang of it. Join a PvP corp to get some pointers, and some backup. If you're gonna go at it solo, you've got to know all the little tricks that pirates use to kill you, and you have to recognize and react to them correctly.
Redglare's Demise Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2008.01.26 17:12:00 - [6] Originally by: Raul Watanabe Im ratting in the asteroid fields for a while... If by "wrong place at the wrong time" you mean, sitting in a belt solo with faction loot, you would be correct. Luck was not a factor
Tchell Dahhn Amarr The Space BorderLine	Posted - 2008.01.26 17:26:00 - [7] Originally by: Raul Watanabe I'm ratting in the asteroid fields for a while and i guess my one big mistake was not watching the local to watch for groups of guys from the same corp or just general hardasses. Watching local is a must, and it's not just general hardasses to be careful of. I once warped in to see a battlecruiser fighting with a frigate, which I'm certain he was sure he could beat... ...until four or five of his friends appeared, in cruisers, battlecruisers and battleships. Originally by: Raul Watanabe (he was flashing red :P ) In losec, if they're flashing red, that means they have done something recently to invoke the Global Criminal Counter, which means they started a fight - and the fact that they were still alive is a good reason to think that they might have help waiting. Originally by: Raul Watanabe It was at this point that i had the time to info my attackers and realised that it was four players from VETO ... If you had to do an 'info' on them, then you're Overview is not configured correctly. Quickly panning over your attackers can tell you their Corp, Alliance, and even the ship that they are flying. (Another must for losec travel.) Doing this properly can also show you "major threats" in your local chat window. Threats showing as "-5" can be configured to show a blinking skull, so that you always know who's in the system. Otherwise, always always ALWAYS be aware of your surroundings if you're going to losec. Check local while you're cloaked on the way in, highlight a gate for a quick warp out (to zero, please - no autopilot) and watch for any quick influx of pilots.
Sirius Problem Darkness Inc. Blood Blind	Posted - 2008.01.26 23:48:00 - [8] Originally by: Raul Watanabe i was in the wrong place at the wrong time it wont stop me from pursuing my dreams of PVP fun i just hope that my luck is a little better in future Everything was wrong. No luck involved. You were/are a victim waiting to happen. 4 months old ,flying faction-fitted BCs in low-sec, solo. Lots of threads here in C&P on how to get into PvP, so I won't rehash what has been said a hundred times. Good luck. ---- I am Super Cool
Raul Watanabe	Posted - 2008.01.26 23:58:00 - [9] Thanxs for the advice people, i know i was asking for it but hey, it was Australia day and after a lazy day of drinking i wanted to go have some fun, theres no doubt that once in low sec i totally let my gaurd down. Not many 'carebears' would laugh at a 120 mil loss i dont think however and i certainly never passed into low sec thinking my baby was gonna make it home (hopefull though). Im going to fit out something fast and cheap as per the advice above and thankyou Tchell for having much positive, constructive criticism.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.01.26 23:59:00 - [10] Who flies a Myrmidon? Originally by: Sharupak When you go to vote, you are voting on whether you want to bend over or get on your knees.
Ka Jolo Ministry of Destruction	Posted - 2008.01.27 07:17:00 - [11] Like you, I was in lowsec that day looking for a fight. Like you, I had a range of ships in my hangar ranging from frigates to battleships. Like you, I have 5-6 million SP. Unlike you, I've been pirating for a living, so I can't afford the faction modules and implants. Unlike you, virtually all of my experience as a pilot has been PvP. So... Unlike you, I was in a T1 frigate. Frigates make it much easier to survive lowsec. In lowsec, Bigger = Better...loot (notice none of the pirates had a bigger ship than you, and at least one was in something smaller). Unlike you, I had a good idea what I was facing, and I intended to fight exactly the ship I ended up fighting. Sadly, like you, I lost my only engagement that day. Hopefully, we both learned something from our experiences. I paid less in tuition than you. Your Money or Your Life! The journal of a space pirate
Arekhon Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2008.01.27 07:39:00 - [12] Originally by: Redglare's Demise Originally by: Raul Watanabe Im ratting in the asteroid fields for a while... If by "wrong place at the wrong time" you mean, sitting in a belt solo with faction loot, you would be correct. Luck was not a factor this Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap [BEES]
techzer0 IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2008.01.27 08:06:00 - [13] Originally by: Ka Jolo Like you, I was in lowsec that day looking for a fight. Like you, I had a range of ships in my hangar ranging from frigates to battleships. Like you, I have 5-6 million SP. Unlike you, I've been pirating for a living, so I can't afford the faction modules and implants. Unlike you, virtually all of my experience as a pilot has been PvP. So... Unlike you, I was in a T1 frigate. Frigates make it much easier to survive lowsec. In lowsec, Bigger = Better...loot (notice none of the pirates had a bigger ship than you, and at least one was in something smaller). Unlike you, I had a good idea what I was facing, and I intended to fight exactly the ship I ended up fighting. Sadly, like you, I lost my only engagement that day. Hopefully, we both learned something from our experiences. I paid less in tuition than you. heheh... you win sir ------------ Originally by: Praxis1452 you win eve
maCH'EttE Veto.	Posted - 2008.01.27 10:55:00 - [14] Edited by: maCH''EttE on 27/01/2008 11:01:06 And there I was thinking... Hey, this sounds awefully familiar... So you're aware, self destruct takes 1 minute (or is it 2?) from the time you click, to the time you assplode. Anyway, glad we provided you with some excitement! EDIT: Originally by: Tchell Dahhn Originally by: Raul Watanabe (he was flashing red :P ) In losec, if they're flashing red, that means they have done something recently to invoke the Global Criminal Counter I'd just like to correct you there... If we're flashing red, it could also mean we're outlaw, with no current Global Criminal Countdown. Originally by: Devil Hanzo (ISD) I got pwned!
Raul Watanabe	Posted - 2008.01.27 11:21:00 - [15] Edited by: Raul Watanabe on 27/01/2008 11:23:01 Edited by: Raul Watanabe on 27/01/2008 11:21:52 Ka Jolo, it never ceases to amaze me how people love to take the opportunity to explain how smart they are. I never made any claim to fame but certainly was happy to admit my mistakes. Losing that ship was a big whatever for me but like i said, and the funny part of the story is, that this was the day that i made my first clear move into PVP and i got intsapwned by four long time badasses in an area that ive been around for a long time in, i actually used to run missions into low sec from ignebaener sometimes even taking my 30 mil salvager in there . I wanted it to be in the toughest ship i could fit and afford to lose, and lose it i knew i would. I wanted that experience and to see what would happen. You only know what you know and for all the so called good advice on offer in these forums in actual truth most replies are about people waxing lyrical about how smart they are and how dumb other people are. Thankyou to all those who actually have something to say. As for the future i will be heading back out into low sec all the time now and it will certainly be in cost effective ships which im sure i will lose. Who knows i may even have company or i may not. Im sure as hell not gonna fly around in a limp wristed T1 fitted T1 frigate cause im scared of losing some ISK (T2 fitted would be fine ). The whole point of me making all my money while i was building my SPs was so i could fly decent stuff and afford to lose it all the time. I think i will learn quicker not having so much monetary constraints placed on me. See you in space.
Mao TseTung Gallente Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.01.27 12:06:00 - [16] Edited by: Mao TseTung on 27/01/2008 12:08:27 Quote: It was at this point that i had the time to info my attackers and realised that it was four players from VETO with at least one guy with 3 years under his belt and all had security ratings around the -10 mark i think (doh!) That was me Edit: That was a nice tank on your Myrmidon, for the record. -------------------------------------------------- Chairman Mao Veto.
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition	Posted - 2008.01.28 00:50:00 - [17] I saw those guys earlier in the day, but decided not to engage them. Dunno if that would have saved you or not . Although, I would have went after you too, being that young in a battlecruiser. I don't ransom either.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.01.28 01:25:00 - [18] Edited by: Akita T on 28/01/2008 01:27:00 You failed EVE's #1 rule : flying what you can afford to lose. Well, not quite failed, but still, to some degree, it DID hurt. At least you're learning. Going into lowsec = "I hereby agree that my ship will die a horrible gruesome death and my pod might also follow". Translation: IF you enter lowsec, you enter with the knowledge that what goes in won't come out. If it somehow miraculously does come out, well, thank whatever gods you believe in nicely, and go for another round. There is nothing else to be said. 1\|2\|3\|4\|5.
Mao TseTung Gallente Veto.	Posted - 2008.01.28 01:36:00 - [19] Originally by: Feng Schui I saw those guys earlier in the day, but decided not to engage them. Dunno if that would have saved you or not . Although, I would have went after you too, being that young in a battlecruiser. I don't ransom either. Haha we were debating engaging you as well - decided against it. Might have been a good fight
Ahn Riane Blue Star Surveying and Mapping Zzz	Posted - 2008.01.28 01:51:00 - [20] Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 28/01/2008 01:27:00 Going into lowsec = "I hereby agree that my ship will die a horrible gruesome death and my pod might also follow". Translation: IF you enter lowsec, you enter with the knowledge that what goes in won't come out. If it somehow miraculously does come out, well, thank whatever gods you believe in nicely, and go for another round. There is nothing else to be said. Uhm... I travel through low sec all day, and do seldom loose a ship. You are painting in deepest black, while a pale grey color would be appropriate. ItÆs all a question of where, when and how the venture goes. But going to low sec, looking for a fight, well then you are right. Then there is good chance to fly in your pot after a while.
Mr Twinkie The Bastards	Posted - 2008.01.28 04:36:00 - [21] Originally by: maCH'EttE Edited by: maCH''EttE on 27/01/2008 11:01:06 EDIT: Originally by: Tchell Dahhn Originally by: Raul Watanabe (he was flashing red :P ) In losec, if they're flashing red, that means they have done something recently to invoke the Global Criminal Counter I'd just like to correct you there... If we're flashing red, it could also mean we're outlaw, with no current Global Criminal Countdown. was waiting for a non carebear to point that out. And sitting in a belt in low in a battlecruiser... alone... ur a free meal ----------------- The Bastards.. Come Visit
Onezen Greystone Heavy Industries	Posted - 2008.01.28 09:18:00 - [22] Going into lowsec, solo, and looking for some PvP is, umm....unwise. Going into lowsec and not watching local like a hawk is, .......unwise. There will always be traveling "squads" of pirates who are well organized and well equiped to make short work of the lone unwary individual. Me and a friend got jumped by a roving Veto group in OICX some time ago. Actually he got jumped and I came to his aid. First time I have had a run in with a Lachesis and I hope it's the last. Trust me when I say, they were very good and very well organized.
Arachidamia The Ninja Coalition	Posted - 2008.01.28 15:51:00 - [23] Originally by: Onezen Going into lowsec, solo, and looking for some PvP is, umm....unwise. I dunno, it can work out. Just pick something pretty quick, and very cheap. t1 cruisers work well for this (I use a lollicose... don't laugh at the back there!)
Gaven Blands	Posted - 2008.01.28 16:06:00 - [24] Originally by: Raul Watanabe Ka Jolo, it never ceases to amaze me how people love to take the opportunity to explain how smart they are. I never made any claim to fame but certainly was happy to admit my mistakes. They didn't read that bit. They read, ha lol noob, carebear, go back to wow. Best thing you can do is join a decent corp and learn the easy way. Being an ozzie makes this difficult. Try starting out with the anti macro corps / alliance. It's easy to rationalise yourself as conducting victimless crime and they have a specific agenda which rules out the need to show any solo heroic any time soon. Learn at a steady pace so to speak. When you're bored of doing CCP's job for them and getting constantly harrassed by GMs you'll be able to move on boldly. Other combat career paths exist. Learning it all solo. Probably the hardest path. 0.0 isn't the pinnacle of all of Eve. It's just another arena. -- Death of an insidious dictator Birth of a new one
Barashi Nugan Gallente The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2008.01.28 18:45:00 - [25] Originally by: Raul Watanabe As for the future i will be heading back out into low sec all the time now and it will certainly be in cost effective ships which im sure i will lose. Who knows i may even have company or i may not. Im sure as hell not gonna fly around in a limp wristed T1 fitted T1 frigate cause im scared of losing some ISK (T2 fitted would be fine ). The whole point of me making all my money while i was building my SPs was so i could fly decent stuff and afford to lose it all the time. I think i will learn quicker not having so much monetary constraints placed on me. See you in space. Glad to see that you, infact, didn't learn a single lesson. What area do you generally hang out in again? Thanks.
Mr Twinkie The Bastards	Posted - 2008.01.28 21:46:00 - [26] pvp in metro... its very friendly i swear ----------------- The Bastards.. Come Visit
hellsknights RennTech SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.28 22:09:00 - [27] I wish more people would fly faction equipped ships. I would love to receive this lewt more often and especially free faction goodness.
weedmasta Minmatar Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.01.29 11:42:00 - [28] For the record, I wasn't nossed, neuted nor webbed during that engagement. ___________________________________ Shuuuun, shuuuun the smacktalkers.
Miho San	Posted - 2008.01.29 13:37:00 - [29] Wait wait wait.... Can I just draw peoples attention to something here.... The OP claims to have been alive for 4 month (game time), and well I find that 1 of 2 things hard to believe.... 1) This is not an alt character or 2) Has not bought isk. (could also have generous friends) By reading his post you will notice that after 4 month in game (mainly if not purely High sec) he has managed to accumulate enough isk to buy numerous BS's, BC's, cruisers all fitted with rigs. Also where does a noob (4month = noob) get multiple clones??? Also after all this expenditure the clones all have +4 implants. All this after only residing in High sec after a failed attempt into Low sec. This thread totally fails... and can only be lies.
Omarvelous Destry's Lounge	Posted - 2008.01.29 14:41:00 - [30] Ouch rough loss - always have an eye on your scanner when you're at the belts. At your stage in playing eve - I'd recommend sticking to T1 and T2 mods on a T1 cruiser. Thorax or Vexor are nice cruisers to learn some pvp basics in. Friends are the most valuable asset in low sec - if you fly solo - there is always the perfect counter to your ship - and people will be ready to engage you with that. Think fast and deadly and the surprise factor when you engage people in low-sec - have an attack plan, and even more importantly have an escape plan. Good luck - you'll get the hang of it, pirates have the most skill intensive highest risk profession in Eve - they've lost a lot of ships in time too, and with every loss comes valuable lessons. P.S. As stated above - self destruct takes 1-2 minutes - if you had been successful, no loot would have dropped. They blew up your ship before self destruct occurred. If you're interested in joining up with people to do some pvp hit me up - we do a variety of things, and might be able to get you on a solid footing for pvp among other things. __________________________________________________ Sup brosef! Destry's Lounge is looking for a few good drunks - contact me in game.

Pages: [1] 2 :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.