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Me Loonn
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Posted - 2004.03.26 07:24:00 -
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Reducing the ship volume taken would allow frigates (and more shuttles) to be able to transport with industrials around the EVE. There is no problem AFAIK to reduse frigates' (and shuttles') sizes so that even bestower can haul 2 or more when fitted with normal 18% cargo expanders.
Ex. currently to haul ONE Incursus u need iteron5 AND 5 LHC expanders - that are very rare and insanely expencive. That means u have no choise but to use shuttles to go get the next one. 
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Cogswell Tornicade
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Posted - 2004.03.26 12:23:00 -
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make a skill called hauling and let them buy tow equipment that would only work for transporting ships. put in a big speed penalty maybe a tractor beam device or something. and start giving out ship hauling missions as well.
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John Blackthorn
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Posted - 2004.03.26 16:01:00 -
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Actually the simple solution is that if a frigate or shuttle is unassembled (packaged) it takes up 20% of it's volume. So lets say a frigate is 20k m3 that would be 4000 m3 if it's packaged.
You can do this to crusers so that maybe you can get a cruser to say 10 m3 or so when packaged.
-BT
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Lance60266
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Posted - 2004.03.26 17:00:00 -
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Exactly John,
Why is it you can haul the raw minerals to build 10 rigates but you cannot haul even one unassembled one?
This makes now sense to me.
I agree make a unassembled frigate take up a fraction of the space of a assembled one.
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Lance60266
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Posted - 2004.03.26 17:01:00 -
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apologize for multiple type "O's"
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Grimmy Deathstar
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Posted - 2004.03.26 18:03:00 -
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Actually the simple solution is that if a frigate or shuttle is unassembled (packaged) it takes up 20% of it's volume. So lets say a frigate is 20k m3 that would be 4000 m3 if it's packaged.
You can do this to crusers so that maybe you can get a cruser to say 10 m3 or so when packaged.
-BT
Thats a really good idea and i thought in the beginning of EVE that was the purpose with repacking and stacking stuff.
In addition i would also like items to take less space when they are stacked.
- Grimmy
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Me Loonn
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Posted - 2004.03.31 22:16:00 -
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Actually the simple solution is that if a frigate or shuttle is unassembled (packaged) it takes up 20% of it's volume. So lets say a frigate is 20k m3 that would be 4000 m3 if it's packaged.
You can do this to crusers so that maybe you can get a cruser to say 10 m3 or so when packaged.
-BT
Yes, that would be perfect solution to this. Now if only a DEV would read this ..
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2004.04.01 10:15:00 -
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Actually the simple solution is that if a frigate or shuttle is unassembled (packaged) it takes up 20% of it's volume. So lets say a frigate is 20k m3 that would be 4000 m3 if it's packaged.
You can do this to crusers so that maybe you can get a cruser to say 10 m3 or so when packaged.
-BT
That feature is already in the game, in effect - you recycle the cruiser, take the minerals to where you want the cruiser to be, and rebuild it. Better still, it even comes with a cost, which your idea would not; recycling the cruiser will lose you some of the minerals, if only those that were wasted in building it.
I don't like the idea of being able to haul multiple ships around the place without any cost involved.
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NAGGAROK
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Posted - 2004.04.01 14:50:00 -
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If I remember right, Re-packaged ships will take up less space once Shiva's in.
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Tyr Guann
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Posted - 2004.04.01 18:56:00 -
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Reducing the ship volume taken would allow frigates (and more shuttles) to be able to transport with industrials around the EVE. There is no problem AFAIK to reduse frigates' (and shuttles') sizes so that even bestower can haul 2 or more when fitted with normal 18% cargo expanders.
Ex. currently to haul ONE Incursus u need iteron5 AND 5 LHC expanders - that are very rare and insanely expencive. That means u have no choise but to use shuttles to go get the next one.
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do you see the flaw in your logic? By reducing the total volume of a ship, you are also reducing the volume that ships can carry, therefore you are stuck with the same problem.
but yeah, the whole, unassembled ships taking less space makes sense.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2004.04.01 22:47:00 -
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[do you see the flaw in your logic? By reducing the total volume of a ship, you are also reducing the volume that ships can carry, therefore you are stuck with the same problem.
Maybe he doesn't think of an industrial as a small ship...
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Me Loonn
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Posted - 2004.04.02 07:39:00 -
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do you see the flaw in your logic? By reducing the total volume of a ship, you are also reducing the volume that ships can carry, therefore you are stuck with the same problem.
but yeah, the whole, unassembled ships taking less space makes sense.
IF u would read my post again (AND THE TOPIC), u might get what im talking about... but thats too much to ask, right ?
As it is now in EVE, small ships are very low density objects, so redusing the volumes is not an issue, rather than making frigates' faster to move around. Ex. Incursus has (acording to the stats) an averige density of ~37kg per cubic meter. Unless the ship is made mostly of gas form elements (or is 90% of vaccuum), those ship stats make no sense what so ever.
Industrial class ship is _NOT A SMALL SHIP_ - those indies are almost as big as a BATTLESHIP. Cruisers are too huge to be hauled in a indy anyway. There for this topic has NOTHING to do other ships than _Shuttles_ and _Frigates_, aka SMALL SHIPS.
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Ruffles
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Posted - 2004.04.02 12:07:00 -
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Edited by: Ruffles on 02/04/2004 12:08:55
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I don't like the idea of being able to haul multiple ships around the place without any cost involved.
I have been waiting for something like a packaged ship to be a fraction of the size for a long time. If it was easier to move ships to locations where you don't have a factory/hanger, then you may find more battles involving throw-away frigates that a corp is using to do disruption attacks.
The problem is, if you wanted to be remote based out of anywhere else, you HAVE to have a hanger there. Of course you are waiting for Shiva, then you can spend millons on a mobile hanger to try to base out of. Except that also has to be in 0.0 space, control towered, etc, etc... 
Well we all know the corp office situation, and that hasn't changed for well over 6 months, so I don't expect it to change more.
I would welcome being able to move multiple frigates in an industrial, much like a large cargo aircraft today can carry multipe fighters/helicopters to locations, deploy them there for use.
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Atansa
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Posted - 2004.04.02 21:47:00 -
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Actually the simple solution is that if a frigate or shuttle is unassembled (packaged) it takes up 20% of it's volume. So lets say a frigate is 20k m3 that would be 4000 m3 if it's packaged.
You can do this to crusers so that maybe you can get a cruser to say 10 m3 or so when packaged.
-BT
As the builder for my corp I sit building ships then they have to come get them now I would love to be able to drop them off for them for I make a good sized wallet from my corp and I would have no problem doing it.
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