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ry ry StateCorp	Posted - 2008.01.30 14:14:00 - [1] Edited by: ry ry on 30/01/2008 14:14:30 Originally by: ToxicFire This is not wow we don't have addons we don't have custom ui's we have eve fullstop Assuming you mean 'This is not wow' in the pejorative sense, why would a customisable UI be a bad thing? i can think of no logical reason not to put it in, beyond cpp having to allocate dev-time to write the code to facilitate it. if the demand was there, i'm sure they'd seriously look into doing it. +1 for customisable GUI. [IMAGE REMOVED]
ry ry StateCorp	Posted - 2008.01.30 14:18:00 - [2] Edited by: ry ry on 30/01/2008 14:19:29 the existing ui is very easy for screen scraping macros. pixelColor(coordX, xoordY) stuff isn't exactly Minmatar Starship Construction. [IMAGE REMOVED]
ry ry StateCorp	Posted - 2008.01.30 14:47:00 - [3] le sigh. what fresh new CHEATINGLOL are you expecting from people being able to reposition elements of the interface? [IMAGE REMOVED]
ry ry StateCorp	Posted - 2008.01.30 14:52:00 - [4] Mmm, but there are already apps & websites that take market dumps and do all that for you. [IMAGE REMOVED]
ry ry StateCorp	Posted - 2008.01.30 14:54:00 - [5] Edited by: ry ry on 30/01/2008 14:55:01 Originally by: Emily Spankratchet An API is more than just being able to reposition interface elements. Unless you're talking about a pretty crap API. customisable UI is all i ever said i wanted. i'm easily pleased. well, that and i thought i was still replying to the "customisable UI makes it eazy to sc*****the screen noobz" guy. ¼_¼ [IMAGE REMOVED]
ry ry StateCorp	Posted - 2008.01.30 15:43:00 - [6] Edited by: ry ry on 30/01/2008 15:47:03 Quote: What is the essential need to change icons and colors (that's what WoW UI addon's do). i know what 'wow addons' do, cheers. that's why i think a customisable UI would be A Good Thing. look. it's the old UI, because its the only image with more than a couple of windows open i could find, but add an overview to that and you're approaching the Eve Experience (TM). most of that stuff could be compressed down to little draggable bars, complete with actual values or percentages, or maybe even just numbers. like this, or sumfink. chuck that in the corner out of the way, and you've just gained a whole bunch more screen space. i don't want buttons to automatically target and repair damaged drones or anything of the sort, i just want to be able to fight you lot without fighting a bunch of random windows, accidentally overheating my MWD, starting a conversation and jettisoning all my ammo at the same time. customisable UI ffs! [IMAGE REMOVED]
ry ry StateCorp	Posted - 2008.01.30 19:03:00 - [7] Originally by: Kuranta Originally by: ry ry i don't want buttons to automatically target and repair damaged drones or anything of the sort, i just want to be able to fight you lot without fighting a bunch of random windows, accidentally overheating my MWD, starting a conversation and jettisoning all my ammo at the same time. - if you have random windows open: close them - never happened to me. Use shortcuts to activate modules, it's faster anyway. LOL U MUST BE CLUMSEY N00B LOL!!1!. - how is it possible to accidentually open a convo or jettison cargo? Opening a can of worms (customizable UI) just 'cause you are clumsy won't happen. The negative points of it ("must have addons") have been mentioned. most of those things don't happen very often, but they can be done if you're clicking quickly. as far as i can remember you can jetisson stuff by dragging it out of cargo into space, and right clicking to show infor on somebody can easily end up as an accidental convo. i'm glad you're 100% satisfied with the UI. i'm not. [IMAGE REMOVED]
ry ry StateCorp	Posted - 2008.01.31 14:55:00 - [8] Originally by: Tzar'rim Seriously, if you want addons, can you give an example of an addon that, you feel, would be going too far? auto-target and repair drones/gangmates would be too much. change ammo type automatically for maximum damage based on target would be too much. automatically deploy, name and fill jetcans would be too much. on the other hand, being able to change "orbit at" distance on the fly with a slider or something, rather than context menus, would be really good. [IMAGE REMOVED]
ry ry StateCorp	Posted - 2008.01.31 14:57:00 - [9] Originally by: Stormaar 1. 2. 3. i like those. they'd all fix stuff that eve does in a horrible way. [IMAGE REMOVED]
ry ry StateCorp	Posted - 2008.01.31 15:20:00 - [10] Originally by: Mattikus Originally by: Stormaar Edited by: Stormaar on 30/01/2008 15:13:34 Originally by: ApaKaka Let me give you a real example of why this is not allowed. Lets say you customize your UI to blink/make sounds and go freaky as soon as someone enter local. Voila, you have an advantage over everyone else in reacting to the threat of being popped by pirates before you notice they are there. EVE needs to be carefully balanced and give everyone the same experience, simlpy because it is geared towards so much PVP and the hunter/hunted philosophy. Giving one or the other a significant advantage would break this careful balance. So, u cant read at all. Im repeat for u personaly - API regulated by CCP. And thing with authorized developers teams from community members... if CCP wonna control process. He probably cant read cause of your terribly terrible English....I dont know if its not your first language or not...but earlier up the thread you made a post that made sense and seemed like you knew English very well...and now your back to talking like your drunk as a skunk. Kinda annoying actually....Sorry if I've "offended" any of you. lol? take it to CAOD, troll boy. [IMAGE REMOVED]
ry ry StateCorp	Posted - 2008.02.01 13:02:00 - [11] err, you're saying part of the appeal of eve is it's crusty UI? are you sure about that? [IMAGE REMOVED]
ry ry StateCorp	Posted - 2008.02.01 13:04:00 - [12] besides the hordes of macro miners adeptly demonstrate how easy it is to cheat at eve, and the programmable keyboards represent a big fat grey area that already exists. [IMAGE REMOVED]
ry ry StateCorp	Posted - 2008.02.01 14:42:00 - [13] Originally by: Tzar'rim Originally by: ry ry err, you're saying part of the appeal of eve is it's crusty UI? are you sure about that? Are you sure you're not (intentionally?) missing my point? nope. you're saying that eve is supposed to be difficult, and having to try to warp to find out if you're scrammed is all just part of the challenge, and that anybody who thinks otherwise should go back to WoW. i'm saying you're wrong. [IMAGE REMOVED]
ry ry StateCorp	Posted - 2008.02.01 16:25:00 - [14] Edited by: ry ry on 01/02/2008 16:27:16 Originally by: Tzar'rim Ok, you DID miss the point... clearly the point-missing was mutual here - as has been mentioned several times, we're not talking about any kind of automation/macro engine mate, just being able to present the information eve already gives us in a more useful, intuitive manner. the eve community has shown itself to be rather handy when it comes to creating little tools (eft being my favourite example of total awesomeness) and in exchange for the time it'd take CCP to write an API, the community would blatantly put in the man hours the UI clearly needs - for free! it's a win-win situation. [IMAGE REMOVED]
ry ry StateCorp Insurgency	Posted - 2008.02.04 23:36:00 - [15] Originally by: Vandal Achilles Unbelievable resistance in this thread to something that needs to happen. aye, i'm genuinely suprised that so many people are strongly against a customisable UI. the 'thats what wow would do' and 'its for cheats' arguments are a wee bit silly, but the attitude that the UI is just fine as it is? mind boggling. i like eve. its fun. but sometimes whilst CCP are off fixing the Big Things stuff like GUIs get pushed to the back burner time and time again. the character APIs are brilliant, i think a UI API would be a similarly brilliant idea. Signature removed. Too large and flashing signatures are not really permitted. Navigator
ry ry StateCorp Insurgency	Posted - 2008.02.05 23:19:00 - [16] Originally by: Ricardo Phallus Originally by: Stormaar Impossible. There still no official... The devs don't work like that, you can't summon them. You have to be discussing something they give a rats ass about first. you know what? i bet they've already discussed this and decided they don't want to/can't pull developers off other projects to start writing a non-essential feature that won't attract new players in the same way prettier graphics would. that's not the say that isn't the right decision, but it would be nice to hear if this is something CCP with categorically never introduce, or something that may follow in the near/distant future depending on how things go. in the long term, i'd rather have faction warfare than a customisable UI, but i'd imagine a UI API would be considerably less work. That said, the new UI improvements announced are getting there albeit slightly slowly. Signature removed. Too large and flashing signatures are not really permitted. Navigator

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