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Max Leadfoot
PAK
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Posted - 2008.01.30 16:18:00 -
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Hello,
I was wondering when i was walking earlier.
ISK donation help people in need?
simple concept
players donate ISK, and ccp have some sort of equivelant in real money to give into charity.
1. would help people in need, as all eve subscribers surely are well off "hey your spending time in an internet spaceship, so you dont have a problem filling your belly" that includes myself
2. isk sink, some money dissapears from the eve economy, as i understood it, there is alot of new isk coming in..aka bounties from npcs, this would make isk dissapear and not just move from a wallet to another "player driven economy"
Would CCP be interested? thats a thing that i would avoid to get as an anwser from flaming people soo.....
I don't know if CCP as a company would be prepared to donate real money into charity but im sure that with the subscriber base it has plenty lieing around.... yeh yeh "upgrade the server" needs a lot of money I know
but i wonder if those 10k-20k USD a month less would really make such a big difference to a company making revenue of around 3m a month.
let me know what you guys think
and please keep this post to some level of decency
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Kirjava
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.01.30 16:19:00 -
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Heres a thought, gather donations and buy GTC for isk, then sell them on ebay giving proceeds to charity.
Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. |

Max Leadfoot
PAK
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Posted - 2008.01.30 16:20:00 -
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not saying it being done by a character in eve
but by ccp itself
there wouldnt be any trust issues and things like this
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2008.01.30 16:26:00 -
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CCP hold an auction for childrens hospitals at every fanfest. ---- Anything less is wasted effort |

Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2008.01.30 16:29:00 -
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Actually that sounds like a neat idea.
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Anti Protagonist
Archron Dusyfe Industries
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Posted - 2008.01.30 16:29:00 -
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Originally by: Kirjava Heres a thought, gather donations and buy GTC for isk, then sell them on ebay giving proceeds to charity.
Step 3) Get banned.
Can't do that. Only legal GTC trade is through the secure website method and that gets immediately applied to your account.
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Max Leadfoot
PAK
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Posted - 2008.01.30 16:33:00 -
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I didnt know so about what goes on at fanfest...
its a nice thing
but a year event for charity is not enough...well its never enough
an ongoing thing has more impact than a yearly event
just had another idea:
pilots give isk for charity... this is than calculated into real life money for people that pay real money to play the game will get a cheaper price for their subscription
say I donate 100m isk, this than gives me 2usd less to pay for subscription
CCP throws in those 2usd towards charity...
i know just getting wierd ideas
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Tajidan
Mortis Angelus The Church.
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Posted - 2008.01.30 16:40:00 -
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FIX SERVER FURST!!
sry, i had to do it. was my first and last one.
All in all a neat idea, but maybe use the bought isk to buy GTC's to get moneys back and then give it to charity. c'mon there needs to be some use of all the ebay-isk
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Thuranni
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.01.30 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: Max Leadfoot pilots give isk for charity... this is than calculated into real life money
ISK has no real life value. Fail.
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Max Leadfoot
PAK
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Posted - 2008.01.30 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: Thuranni
Originally by: Max Leadfoot pilots give isk for charity... this is than calculated into real life money
ISK has no real life value. Fail.
hence saying, ccp could "finance" the charity from their revenue
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Axel
Gallente PAK
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Posted - 2008.01.30 16:43:00 -
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Charities sucks... all those organizations don't help ****e. Maybe support the USD currency  Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected]) Berserk 3 is out!
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Shinori
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.01.30 17:07:00 -
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Only evil people give to charities.
Temporarily supporting people who can't be self sufficient is only prolonging their misery.
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Thuranni
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.01.30 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Max Leadfoot
Originally by: Thuranni
Originally by: Max Leadfoot pilots give isk for charity... this is than calculated into real life money
ISK has no real life value. Fail.
hence saying, ccp could "finance" the charity from their revenue
So basically you want CCP to give money for nothing?
CCP is a business, not a charity. It's not looking for ways to spend more money on bull****.
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Kuranta
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Posted - 2008.01.30 17:19:00 -
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Would make great promo. Would be pretty unique. I think a lot of people would donate.
Maybe CCP can think of a way to pull it off. Since those pesky ISK sellers use it for profit, CCP might be able to do something good with our play money. They had an auction at the fanfest for a children-aid organisation.
Maybe a once-a-year christmas thingy.
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Callisto Ares
Companion Cube Industries
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Posted - 2008.01.30 17:26:00 -
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Basically you want CCP to donate say $30,000 USD to a Charity for based on a dollar to ISK ratio. You realize how insane that donation ratio would have to be per dollar to like say 100,000,000.00 isk to even remove any significant amount of wealth from the game.
I know this may sound crazy, but why not just donate directly to the charity yourself like most of us do already? It cuts out the middleman, saves on inefficiencies in fees so all your money goes right to the charity that needs it. |

Outlaaz
Meridian Dynamics
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Posted - 2008.01.30 17:31:00 -
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Edited by: Outlaaz on 30/01/2008 17:31:43 I think many of you are forgetting the fact that ISK has no real value to CCP. Suggesting something like 'donating' ISK to CCP so they can convert that into real money which they then donate to a charity is basically asking them to give away money they worked for. Rather than asking someone else to donate to a charity, why don't you donate your own money to a charity if you are feeling so generous.
Edit: Looks like Callisto beat me to the punch.
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Angry Alt
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.01.30 17:42:00 -
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Originally by: Thuranni So basically you want CCP to give money for nothing?
That's kinda the idea behind charity, to give to those less fortunate/in need.
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Kirjava
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.01.30 18:16:00 -
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When I got given 2Billion in a "can I have your stuff" in an "I'm quitting" thread I donated ú10 to charity because I thought it was the right thing to do 
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Princess Jodi
Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2008.01.30 18:37:00 -
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Much as we try to keep Politics out of this game, we need to avoid any sort of Charity. I'm sorry.. but this game is not for that. I certainly don't want to spend my playing time fending off convos from someone wanting isk for the 'Save the Children' campaign.
It is also my personal belief that Charity work is actually counter-productive. For example, the FarmAid 'Feed the World' program did nothing to promote long-term sustainable farming in Africa. All it did is feed people who will again be hungry tommorrow.
As a Corporation, I'm sure CCP looking into supporting Charities. But they do that for reasons such as Tax Writeoffs or Public Relations, not because the player base needs a means to support the world's unfortunates.
Put another way: Do you really want Bums running up to your spaceship as you undock for Jita 4-4, demanding Isk so they can feed their kids, and blocking the exit till you pay?
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2008.01.30 18:41:00 -
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Edited by: Frug on 30/01/2008 18:41:41
Originally by: Princess Jodi Much as we try to keep Politics out of this game, we need to avoid any sort of Charity. I'm sorry.. but this game is not for that. I certainly don't want to spend my playing time fending off convos from someone wanting isk for the 'Save the Children' campaign.
Wow. That's the lamest opinion i've heard in a while. Because that's exactly what's going to happen. Charitable organizations are going to start purchasing macros and spamming people for isk. Just wow dude.
CCP, you should stop donating to charities during fanfest. I don't want to go to fanfest and have hobos asking me for money while I'm there.
Originally by: Princess Jodi
It is also my personal belief that Charity work is actually counter-productive. For example, the FarmAid 'Feed the World' program did nothing to promote long-term sustainable farming in Africa. All it did is feed people who will again be hungry tommorrow.
So as much as politics should stay out of this game, lets start discussing the politics of giving money to people in need.
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2008.01.30 18:50:00 -
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I wonder, would it be legal to offer to donate to charity in exchange for isk?
What about if you didn't? ---- Anything less is wasted effort |

Angry Alt
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.01.30 18:56:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Jodi I certainly don't want to spend my playing time fending off convos from someone wanting isk for the 'Save the Children' campaign. ... Put another way: Do you really want Bums running up to your spaceship as you undock for Jita 4-4, demanding Isk so they can feed their kids, and blocking the exit till you pay?
Where did you even get the idea that anything like this would happen?
From the OP, it would be like a fundraiser. CCP would have 1 or more charities and for each XXX amount of ISK received (ISK sink), CCP would donate X RL money to said charity. Let's say for each 1,000,000 ISK you donate, it's $0.01 USD or $10USD/Billion ISK donated..something along those lines.
Originally by: Princess Jodi As a Corporation, I'm sure CCP looking into supporting Charities. But they do that for reasons such as Tax Writeoffs or Public Relations...
Exactly, so why not setup a donation mechanism. This provides for an ISK sink and it looks good for CCP.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.01.30 19:00:00 -
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Well, judging from what I've seen from my charity collection drives... the Eve community does not like to give to charity 
Originally by: Sharupak When you go to vote, you are voting on whether you want to bend over or get on your knees.
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Doctor Fruitloop
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Posted - 2008.01.30 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Well, judging from what I've seen from my charity collection drives... the Eve community does not like to give to charity 
We beleive in Darwinian theory that weak civilisations are doomed. Hard fact but true, people play the game not to keep the face on we have in public, that includes charities.
Originally by: me bored The only bad thing about pokemon is what a frustratingly terrible trainer ash is. Can you believe that he actually tried to use a caterpie to catch a flying type pokemon? What a noob.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.01.30 19:10:00 -
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awww.... you didn't get it 
Originally by: Sharupak When you go to vote, you are voting on whether you want to bend over or get on your knees.
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Doctor Fruitloop
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Posted - 2008.01.30 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny awww.... you didn't get it 
Oh I did get it, if you are going to complain about others not getting it and decide to quit....
....could I have your stuff?
Originally by: me bored The only bad thing about pokemon is what a frustratingly terrible trainer ash is. Can you believe that he actually tried to use a caterpie to catch a flying type pokemon? What a noob.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.01.30 19:15:00 -
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Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 30/01/2008 19:15:14 What? 
I was talking about ransoms... people dont pay em'
Way to wreck the joke 
Originally by: Sharupak When you go to vote, you are voting on whether you want to bend over or get on your knees.
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari SIVAKASI
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Posted - 2008.01.30 19:30:00 -
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I like the thought because it is something like repatriation fees but I am a believer of charity begins in my wallet so I would vote for donations to be wired to me until I am happy then it is allowed to be redistributed to the needy.
Please help me.  --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria!
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Doctor Fruitloop
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Posted - 2008.01.30 19:40:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Way to wreck the joke 
/me starts licking Plunders delicious tears off her face - more, more pain   
Originally by: me bored The only bad thing about pokemon is what a frustratingly terrible trainer ash is. Can you believe that he actually tried to use a caterpie to catch a flying type pokemon? What a noob.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.01.30 19:51:00 -
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Not sad, angry...
<--- sad face
<-- Angry face
Originally by: Sharupak When you go to vote, you are voting on whether you want to bend over or get on your knees.
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