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Ho HsienKo Delictum 23216	Posted - 2008.01.31 00:45:00 - [1] I see the Devs are finally trying to get a grip on doing something for the Holy Empire and all its devoted citizens. Here is an Idea I used to play a Pen and Paper game years ago called Traveler... it was a space based game and the main weapon everyone used was... you guessed it! LASERS! The defense against Lasers was a "Sand Caster" ... and it did exactly that, launched a packet of sand which exploded and diffused the incoming laser beams. I think this would be a grand idea to help in the balance of Amarr. Introduce Sand Caster Mods.. high slot take charges... defense against Lasers (Caldari have their anti-missile nemesis, why shouldn't Amarr have a race specific defense against their weapons) Ok now here is the bit you can't forget... BUFF Lasers... damage output cap use the whole shooting match! Sand casters would be a high slot fit and take charges. Thoughts?
Ho HsienKo Delictum 23216	Posted - 2008.01.31 00:45:00 - [2] I see the Devs are finally trying to get a grip on doing something for the Holy Empire and all its devoted citizens. Here is an Idea I used to play a Pen and Paper game years ago called Traveler... it was a space based game and the main weapon everyone used was... you guessed it! LASERS! The defense against Lasers was a "Sand Caster" ... and it did exactly that, launched a packet of sand which exploded and diffused the incoming laser beams. I think this would be a grand idea to help in the balance of Amarr. Introduce Sand Caster Mods.. high slot take charges... defense against Lasers (Caldari have their anti-missile nemesis, why shouldn't Amarr have a race specific defense against their weapons) Ok now here is the bit you can't forget... BUFF Lasers... damage output cap use the whole shooting match! Sand casters would be a high slot fit and take charges. Thoughts?
Lyria Skydancer Amarr Dark-Rising The Dawn of Darkness	Posted - 2008.01.31 01:02:00 - [3] How is this gonna buff lasers if they are protection AGAINST lasers? I dont get it. Amarr pvp Vids: Inq - I Inq - II
Lyria Skydancer Amarr Dark-Rising The Dawn of Darkness	Posted - 2008.01.31 01:02:00 - [4] How is this gonna buff lasers if they are protection AGAINST lasers? I dont get it. Amarr pvp Vids: Inq - I Inq - II
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out	Posted - 2008.01.31 01:03:00 - [5] "(Caldari have their anti-missile nemesis, why shouldn't Amarr have a race specific defense against their weapons)" You know, there's a reason why virtually no-one uses defender missiles. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Firkragg Blue Labs Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2008.01.31 01:03:00 - [6] caldari only has specific anti missile weapons as missiles never miss (ignoring speed tanking them)
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out	Posted - 2008.01.31 01:03:00 - [7] "(Caldari have their anti-missile nemesis, why shouldn't Amarr have a race specific defense against their weapons)" You know, there's a reason why virtually no-one uses defender missiles. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Firkragg Blue Labs Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2008.01.31 01:03:00 - [8] caldari only has specific anti missile weapons as missiles never miss (ignoring speed tanking them)
Meridius Dex Amarr Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.01.31 01:07:00 - [9] Edited by: Meridius Dex on 31/01/2008 01:07:01 Holy crap, a fellow Traveler player! That was the first RPG I ever played in 1983 (and I played it for years). I had forgotten sandcasters. Doubt they'd consider a whole new defensive weapons system, though. Look at all the problems they've had with Defender missiles... -- Meridius Dex -- Amarr = EVE on Hard setting
Ho HsienKo Delictum 23216	Posted - 2008.01.31 01:18:00 - [10] Originally by: Lyria Skydancer How is this gonna buff lasers if they are protection AGAINST lasers? I dont get it. Easy it gives options to people... who in PVP is gonna fit sand casters taking up a high slot unless the fleet they are fighting is all Amarr? Lasers get a nice BOOST to go along with the introduction of sand casters... In other words if you don't fit sand casters lasers will do more damage. PVE and specialized PVP kits will be able to use sand casters to reduce damage from the buffed lasers... not ELIMINATE the damage. See where this is going?
Ho HsienKo Delictum 23216	Posted - 2008.01.31 01:19:00 - [11] Originally by: Meridius Dex Edited by: Meridius Dex on 31/01/2008 01:07:01 Holy crap, a fellow Traveler player! That was the first RPG I ever played in 1983 (and I played it for years). I had forgotten sandcasters. Doubt they'd consider a whole new defensive weapons system, though. Look at all the problems they've had with Defender missiles... Shut up you!! yer making us both look way too OLD!! ; P
Shadow Joy	Posted - 2008.01.31 01:24:00 - [12] Originally by: Ho HsienKo Shut up you!! yer making us both look way too OLD!! ; P You can count me among the old people who played Traveler. I would rather have spinal mounts than sand casters, though.
Ho HsienKo Delictum 23216	Posted - 2008.01.31 01:26:00 - [13] Originally by: Shadow Joy Originally by: Ho HsienKo Shut up you!! yer making us both look way too OLD!! ; P You can count me among the old people who played Traveler. I would rather have spinal mounts than sand casters, though. I think the Dooms Day weapons are almost the same, just not focused.
Meridius Dex Amarr Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.01.31 02:38:00 - [14] Originally by: Shadow Joy Originally by: Ho HsienKo Shut up you!! yer making us both look way too OLD!! ; P You can count me among the old people who played Traveler. I would rather have spinal mounts than sand casters, though. No! Introduce the Vargr and the Aslan as playable races! -- Meridius Dex -- Amarr = EVE on Hard setting
Barasu Minmatar Earned In Blood	Posted - 2008.01.31 03:03:00 - [15] But then people would need Reactive Armor to balance against minmatar and gallente.
Ho HsienKo Delictum 23216	Posted - 2008.01.31 04:06:00 - [16] Originally by: Barasu But then people would need Reactive Armor to balance against minmatar and gallente. I was thinking about this: Gallente main weapon is drones, counter would be shooting them, or smart bombing them. Both of which you can easily do ATM. Minmatar projectile weapons have a counter in tracking disrupters. Though I agree that if the "Boost" to Amarr stands as is then it isn't much of a boost, and benifits Minmatar at least as much. It is definately a nurf for any poor bastage trying to shield tank (Caldari) I hope the Devs have a few more carefully planned steps in this "Buff" and arn't flying by the proverbial seat of their pants.
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2008.01.31 04:45:00 - [17] Traveller: Do math for fun; die during character creation. Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Ho HsienKo Delictum 23216	Posted - 2008.01.31 04:51:00 - [18] Edited by: Ho HsienKo on 31/01/2008 04:53:59 Originally by: F'nog Traveller: Do math for fun; die during character creation. But I wanted the extra money from my pension after those 4 more years with the special forces ; [ And yes.... thanks 2 "L" in Traveller the game ; P
Blaise Farmoon Minmatar Free Trade Syndicate	Posted - 2008.01.31 05:41:00 - [19] Traveller FTW! The first boardgame I ever bought and only because the (then) 32-page rulebook first edition of Star Fleet Battles was sold out. Steve Jackson's Car Wars was a fave too. Villains and Vigilantes and Morrow Project. Bushido. Chainmail. Sigh... But yeah, anything to nerf lasers and Amarr in particular would be great. /me drifts back into the past __________________________________________________ The meek shall NOT inherent the earth, they will be beaten and their toys taken from them. - Blaise Farmoon
Wet Ferret	Posted - 2008.01.31 05:51:00 - [20] Originally by: Ho HsienKo Easy it gives options to people... who in PVP is gonna fit sand casters taking up a high slot unless the fleet they are fighting is all Amarr? They would probably use volumetric fog for their graphical effects meaning extreme lag if a bunch of them were used at once. I'm sure some people who would use them just for that purpose.
Trishan Green Men Incorporated	Posted - 2008.01.31 05:52:00 - [21] Yes! Let us do planetary orbiting computations by hand too! Ah, Traveller... :)
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.01.31 10:29:00 - [22] Traveller was great. However, lasers already have an effective counter - tracking disruptors. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Misanth The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.01.31 10:44:00 - [23] Edited by: Misanth on 31/01/2008 10:46:50 Originally by: Meridius Dex fellow Traveler player! ..guilty as well. Damn you both, made me googlesearch Traveller and got lost in wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traveller_(role-playing_game) ,damn fun read with some perspective to things. Btw; misread your title (early in the day here coughs) as "..sandcastles". Was expecting a comparison with how easy it is to destroy something built in sand and then got this read instead. Hahaha.

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