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Infinity Enterprises
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.02.02 04:47:00 -
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Was anybody else holding their breath for a Drone Apoc?
I prayed to the Amarr God and all I got was this fleet niche sniping ship?
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Edgerrin Planck
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Posted - 2008.02.02 04:50:00 -
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Welcome to the world of the Caldari pilot.
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Zana Kito
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Posted - 2008.02.02 04:58:00 -
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I was hoping for a big brother to the arbitrator.. but at least it can now peform its intended role well. No longer the gimped poc. |
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Infinity Enterprises
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.02.02 04:59:00 -
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A Drone/Neut/Missile/Tracking Disruptor lol bonus SOME variation. Amarr have 3 turret bonus'd Bs... yay
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Wu Jiun
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Posted - 2008.02.02 05:06:00 -
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I don't do sniperwarfare so i won't make much use of it. Its an important part of the game though and an area where amarr were lacking for some time now. So i think its good. Long time ago apoc was the nr.1 fleet ship so its not even far off imo.
As for my personal uses i'd really need some more cpu to make a viable closerange fit. For plates + mps the abaddon and geddon both excel so i'd like to have a bs that can fit mwd, tackling gear, inject + single lar + single plate. (abaddon can but even with only a singlerep its lightyears from cap stability)
From my computations it should fit pg wise with awu 5 but cpu is a no go. Somethink like this would be nice:
8 x mp2
named mwd, named cap booster, fleeting web, named disruptor
lar2, dcu2, 1600mm, triple hardener, heat sink
Atm (current tq apoc) i am over 60cpu short even with both the highest cpu imps.
It would only do 545dps with faction ammo (up to about 20km). So i don't think it would be horribly overpowered. But it would be nice i think. What ya think?
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Infinity Enterprises
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.02.02 05:38:00 -
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Confused me a little but, but what I got was that Amarr need a fleet sniping ship?
As is the Geddon/Abaddon are on par Sniping wise with Mega/Hyp, and Mael/Tempest. Alot I'm sure will argue this but dps/range and even cap wise they are all in the same ballpark.
The Apoc as it is now on Tq is lacking a role. Another turret bs is not what Amarr IMO(and I believe the silent majority's as well) need.
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Wu Jiun
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Posted - 2008.02.02 06:06:00 -
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 Originally by: source
Confused me a little but, but what I got was that Amarr need a fleet sniping ship?
Yep that was kinda my point.
Originally by: source
As is the Geddon/Abaddon are on par Sniping wise with Mega/Hyp, and Mael/Tempest.
No, they aren't. Geddon is just horrible as a sniper. There is no way to fit it halway competitive compared to mega or tempest.
Abaddon does omgwtf dps as a sniper but still people don't use it so much because sustainability matters for sniping. Also from what little i know price also matters for fleet sniping as you gonna get killed a lot.
Originally by: source
Alot I'm sure will argue this but dps/range and even cap wise they are all in the same ballpark.
How do you fit a geddon to be in the same ballpark with a thron for example range wise? The answer is simple: you don't because you can't. And if you can do it with some exotic fitting it will lack in every other department and not be a viable fleet ship.
Originally by: source
The Apoc as it is now on Tq is lacking a role. Another turret bs is not what Amarr IMO(and I believe the silent majority's as well) need.
I'd also prefer i.e. a torp boat because it fits much more in what kind of combat i am involved in usually. But the fact that i or you can't make use of it does not imply its useless.
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Setana Manoro
Gallente
Firefly Inc.
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Posted - 2008.02.02 09:07:00 -
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Edited by: Setana Manoro on 02/02/2008 09:07:21
Truth is, Apoc was the only decent sniper Amarr had, and now it got boosted a bit in that role.
Sure, if it were turned in a i-win button, it would have been nice, but i don't see what the big problem is with this change.
With this change you got 60km on MP II with Scorch L and 200km on Tachyons, putting it on par with the Rokh.
Apoc needed that bonus for range, because most ppl use it with beams, and for beams falloff is very very very bad.
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Gordon Red
SteelVipers
YouWhat
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Posted - 2008.02.02 11:51:00 -
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now:
Apoc = sniper
Geddon = gank
Abaddon = what ever I want it to be
looks good, but a bit boring, nothing "fresh" like a big Arbitrator or armortanking missile boat
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Y3R M4W
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Posted - 2008.02.02 12:23:00 -
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Edited by: Y3R M4W on 02/02/2008 12:23:04
I was always hoping for a torp spewing armor tanking boat, since afaik none of them exist atm 
Nothing wrong with a snipership though, just not my thing.
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Escobar Noreaga
Amarr
F.R.E.E. Explorer
Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2008.02.02 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: Y3R M4W
Edited by: Y3R M4W on 02/02/2008 12:23:04
I was always hoping for a torp spewing armor tanking boat, since afaik none of them exist atm
Nothing wrong with a snipership though, just not my thing.
agree, make it khanid and a lovely black with blue lights. Ill retire in that ship and itll be my coffin. 
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