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Freddy Dreamer
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.14 06:02:00 -
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So i am thinking about downsizing my accounts and selling my chars and assets in return for a titan char and titan itself. The titan will be used for solo pvp,hot drop,logistics etc. I have very small experience with caps, with that said i am seeking advice on how to keep my titan hidden from the masses and from groups like PL. I am planning on setting up a POS in a quiet lowsec. Is it wise to have several lowsec POS for safety reasons? For you people who own personal titans, how do you keep them hidden? what safety precaution do you practice? |
Super Chair
Project Cerberus Caldari State Capturing
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Posted - 2012.02.14 06:09:00 -
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It's honestly a waste if you're flying it alone. You're either bridging a fleet on top of someone or you're in a pack of titans tracking drakes to death |
Freddy Dreamer
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.14 06:14:00 -
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Super Chair wrote:It's honestly a waste if you're flying it alone. You're either bridging a fleet on top of someone or you're in a pack of titans tracking drakes to death
it will not be flown for pvp, it will just sit inside the pos bridging my pvp toon. |
Mfume Apocal
Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2012.02.14 07:04:00 -
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Freddy Dreamer wrote:it will not be flown for pvp, it will just sit inside the pos bridging my pvp toon.
then a lowsec moon with no moongoo on it is fine. put down a minmatar or amarr large wiht max hardeners and no one will **** with the tower. even if they take down your tower, you can just log in and cyno out, since they can't rapecage it in lowsec |
wallenbergaren
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.14 08:33:00 -
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1) don't kill anyone with the titan 2) use a proper travelling fit when travelling and / or bring an archon along to cap you up so you can jump again before anyone even gets to the cyno 3) don't cyno onto your own pos like a ****** 4) don't warp to your POS at zero 5) don't give anyone you don't TRUST access to the POS People don't need to be inside the POS to bridge
IMO buying a personal titan is a complete waste Yes it's fun for a while but the e-peen factor wears of pretty quickly, so don't be afraid to sell it when you start getting bored. Otherwise you'll just want to quit. |
Freddy Dreamer
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.14 08:35:00 -
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Mfume Apocal wrote:Freddy Dreamer wrote:it will not be flown for pvp, it will just sit inside the pos bridging my pvp toon. then a lowsec moon with no moongoo on it is fine. put down a minmatar or amarr large wiht max hardeners and no one will **** with the tower. even if they take down your tower, you can just log in and cyno out, since they can't rapecage it in lowsec
good to hear, thanks.
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Freddy Dreamer
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.14 08:40:00 -
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wallenbergaren wrote:1) don't kill anyone with the titan 2) use a proper travelling fit when travelling and / or bring an archon along to cap you up so you can jump again before anyone even gets to the cyno 3) don't cyno onto your own pos like a ****** 4) don't warp to your POS at zero 5) don't give anyone you don't TRUST access to the POS People don't need to be inside the POS to bridge
IMO buying a personal titan is a complete waste Yes it's fun for a while but the e-peen factor wears of pretty quickly, so don't be afraid to sell it when you start getting bored. Otherwise you'll just want to quit.
1) yeah i dont plan on soloing with the titan, it is only going to be for bridging my solo pvp toon.
2) roger
3) ?
4) roger, how close should i be from the titan? no more than 5k?
5) yeah i am solo so that is solved.
People don't need to be inside the POS to bridge<<< what do you mean by this? i have seen videos of titans poking its head out so people can bridge, is this what u mean? |
Kaanchana
Rocket Rajas
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Posted - 2012.02.14 10:23:00 -
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3) He means, do not cyno your titan to the pos since you can't light a cyno inside it, you'll have to showboat from the cyno to the pos which coupled with an active cyno makes you very vulnerable. You might get away with it the first time but certainly not anymore.
I guess he wants you to cyno in at a safespot and warp to your pos. |
Irisa Selenia
Capital Consortium Partners One Stop Research
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Posted - 2012.02.14 11:24:00 -
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Kaanchana wrote:3) He means, do not cyno your titan to the pos since you can't light a cyno inside it, you'll have to showboat from the cyno to the pos which coupled with an active cyno makes you very vulnerable. You might get away with it the first time but certainly not anymore.
I guess he wants you to cyno in at a safespot and warp to your pos. If a cyno is lit right outside the edge of the pos bubble, won't you have a 50% chance of landing inside the bubble? And at most you will be 5k from the bubble, which should take 60-90 seconds to get in, right?
Or is cynoing to a safespot always preferable because the titan align time is lower than the time it will take anyone to warp to it?
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Lisan al-Gaib
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.14 14:54:00 -
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They've made it so that when you cyno onto a POS now you always land at least 15km from the shield or something like that. I guess you could cyno onto the pos, warp off, and then warp back, if you want to protect your cynoship. |
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OldMan Gana
The Flaming Sideburn's Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2012.02.14 15:23:00 -
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I'm donning my Mystic Meg hat here- I foresee a life of doing nothing else but fueling and refueling a POS. Responding to notifications of POS attacks and then watching your Titan die. Someone. somewhere will spot your POS and then your Titan, once that happens then you know the rest.
" I spent most of my money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." -George Best-á |
Irisa Selenia
Capital Consortium Partners One Stop Research
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Posted - 2012.02.14 16:12:00 -
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OldMan Gana wrote:I'm donning my Mystic Meg hat here- I foresee a life of doing nothing else but fueling and refueling a POS. Responding to notifications of POS attacks and then watching your Titan die. Someone. somewhere will spot your POS and then your Titan, once that happens then you know the rest.
There is a thing called Strontium.
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Lady Ayeipsia
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2012.02.14 16:56:00 -
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Stront only protects so far. Any serious alliance that wants a Titan kill will stalk the pos, wait out the timer, and get you. |
voetius
Starwinders The Unwilling.
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Posted - 2012.02.14 17:00:00 -
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Freddy Dreamer wrote:[quote=wallenbergaren]
People don't need to be inside the POS to bridge<<< what do you mean by this? i have seen videos of titans poking its head out so people can bridge, is this what u mean?
* Titan is inside the POS and moves to the shield and stops just inside the shield
* POS access rights prevent anyone from entering the POS
* Person(s) wishing to use the bridge approach the POS shield at the Titan and stop when they are nudged up against the POS shield
* You need to be 2 or 2.5km from the Titan to use the bridge (can't recall exact distance, been a while since I last did this)
Which is how this scenario works without letting people inside the POS.
Sometimes in the above situation the Titan will poke just out of the POS shield, they are pretty big and hard to maneuver I guess, I'm not a Titan pilot but that is my impression.
As people pointed out above, everyone wants to be on a Titan kill. |
Daemon Ceed
Brotherhood Of Treachery
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Posted - 2012.02.14 17:36:00 -
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ROTFL. Ok, not to troll (ok, well maybe a little) but I can't wait to see what happens with this. A lone Titan pilot with a few alts is just asking to be wtfpwnd, especially if an attacking force knows you have no real backup should they hit your tower. Never underestimate how clever an attacker can be.
Plainly put, your going to lose your Titan, one way or another, probably sooner than later. That's a crap ton of ISK lost for no good and sane reason at all. But hey, it's your ISK. Can't wait to be on the km for your beloved Titan and watch it assplode. |
supr3m3justic3
Imperium Technologies F0RCEFUL ENTRY
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Posted - 2012.02.14 18:49:00 -
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Buy a Black Ops.... |
Mfume Apocal
Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2012.02.14 18:50:00 -
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OldMan Gana wrote:I'm donning my Mystic Meg hat here- I foresee a life of doing nothing else but fueling and refueling a POS. Responding to notifications of POS attacks and then watching your Titan die. Someone. somewhere will spot your POS and then your Titan, once that happens then you know the rest.
you seriously overestimate people's willingness to shoot POSes and especially max hardener towers.
Lady Ayeipsia wrote:Stront only protects so far. Any serious alliance that wants a Titan kill will stalk the pos, wait out the timer, and get you.
you can't do anything to him in lowsec, he just lands at the pos and cynos out before you can get tackle. i've read this story before (multiple times, in fact) and i know how it ends.
spoiler: him jumping to some empty ass lowsec backwater and logging off while cloaked at a safespot before throwing up a new tower.
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Batelle
HOMELE55
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Posted - 2012.02.14 18:53:00 -
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Once people see the guy that lights a cyno to bridge in one subcap, they will very quickly find your titan through a combination of watchlists and locator agents. Locator agents work even when logged out. If you are forced to abandon your staging pos, there will be alts in whatever system you log out in. Every time your character logs in, you will be in danger. |
Freddy Dreamer
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.14 20:57:00 -
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thank you for the advice and warnings. do you guys think that having 2 lowsec pos or maybe 3 can mitigate the risk? i will not only have 2 or 3 cyno alts but maybe up to 6 just to mix things up. as for the titan toon itself, the only time he will be online is to bridge my pvp toon, so he will not stay on for more than 2 minutes. |
Freddy Dreamer
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.14 20:59:00 -
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supr3m3justic3 wrote:Buy a Black Ops....
black ops can only bridge bombers, no? |
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Hatsumi Kobayashi
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2012.02.14 21:23:00 -
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voetius wrote:* You need to be 2 or 2.5km from the Titan to use the bridge (can't recall exact distance, been a while since I last did this)
It works like a stargate, anything less than 2500m. The idea that it's 2km probably comes from the fact most people use "keep at range" at 2000m while waiting on the bridge, because a bumped Titan takes f'ing forever to stop moving even if it only gets a slight nudge. CAUTION
SNIGGS |
Osvaldr Adridian
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.02.14 22:38:00 -
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Are Titans really that common now?
Inb4 we see a youtube vid of op jumping himself instead of bridging and dieing with a laughable fit http://i.imgur.com/wGQin.jpg |
Katie Frost
Asgard. Exodus.
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Posted - 2012.02.14 22:51:00 -
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Freddy Dreamer wrote:supr3m3justic3 wrote:Buy a Black Ops.... black ops can only bridge bombers, no?
Among other Covops ships...
I think you are missing the point though. BlackOps ships would probably serve your solo/gank scenario far better than a Titan. You are bridging one ship for your other PvP toon. So at best you are hoping for a 1v1 or a gank... you don't need a Titan to do this.
Paying billions to get a Titan and fuel POS(s) only to get occassional fights/ganks? All the while risking your Titan to opportunistic alliances; whereas your goal could be easily achieved by flying solo or BlackOpsing which is far cheaper and probably just as effective?
I don't know. But your risk vs reward is severely out of whack.
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supr3m3justic3
Imperium Technologies F0RCEFUL ENTRY
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Posted - 2012.02.14 23:04:00 -
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Freddy Dreamer wrote:supr3m3justic3 wrote:Buy a Black Ops.... black ops can only bridge bombers, no?
They can bridge anything with a Cov Ops Cloak...and have the added benifit or using Cov Ops Cyno's.
And you're not risking a titan...
Win, WIn |
Monty Kvaran
Criminal Intentions En Garde
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Posted - 2012.02.14 23:16:00 -
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supr3m3justic3 wrote:Freddy Dreamer wrote:supr3m3justic3 wrote:Buy a Black Ops.... black ops can only bridge bombers, no? They can bridge anything with a Cov Ops Cloak...and have the added benifit or using Cov Ops Cyno's. And you're not risking a titan... Win, WIn
Does that include T3 Cruisers? I've been wondering about that one... |
Hatsumi Kobayashi
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2012.02.14 23:47:00 -
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Monty Kvaran wrote:Does that include T3 Cruisers? I've been wondering about that one...
If they have the Covops sub, yes.
The only thing T3s can't do is light the covert cyno. CAUTION
SNIGGS |
supr3m3justic3
Imperium Technologies F0RCEFUL ENTRY
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Posted - 2012.02.15 00:10:00 -
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What he said ^^^ |
Kush Monster
Big Tobacco
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Posted - 2012.02.15 01:33:00 -
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Hatsumi Kobayashi wrote:Monty Kvaran wrote:Does that include T3 Cruisers? I've been wondering about that one... If they have the Covops sub, yes. The only thing T3s can't do is light the covert cyno.
o **** that's badass! hello blackops!
I second the POS fuel prediction. Have fun fueling all those poses just to play with your titan. How to make mining enjoyable: An Autocannon, Faction Ammo, Your Mouth
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Janos Haine
Paxton Industries Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2012.02.15 02:48:00 -
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My suggestion for whats its worth?
Don't sell your characters/assets to buy a Titan. If you must sell your characters/assets please feel free to do so. If you do sell your characters/assets and the collective ISK is enough to buy a Titan character with decent skills AND enough to buy a properly fitted Titan...SPEND THAT MONEY ON SOMETHING ELSE!!!
You are hiding behind an alt, we get that. If you do have characters and assets worth this much ISK ~benefit of the doubt~ you will NOT do well with a solo Titan.
In a dickstar or not. The people who sell you the Titan will likely be the ones killing you. |
Janos Haine
Paxton Industries Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2012.02.15 02:51:00 -
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Better yet- man up and join an alliance in Null.
Faction Warfare might work too.
Several of the Wormhole alliances have decent pvp chops too. |
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