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Kiska Myau
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Posted - 2008.02.03 20:22:00 -
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Edited by: Kiska Myau on 03/02/2008 20:22:48 I am planning to use CNR for lvl4 missions with omni tank, so I dont have to change hardeners every tank. Do u think it is possible to use this setup and tank all the missions withoutproblems (including DED blockade and other difficult missions). Please comment.
7 t2 cruise, heavy diminishing nos 1 xl gist c-type, gist b-type shield amplifier, gist b type therm, kinetic hardeners, DG em hardener, t2 invul 2 BCU t2, 1 DG bcu t2, 2 PDU t2 rigs ccc implants crystall low grade + omega lg
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AstroPhobic
Minmatar Port Royal Independent Kontractors Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2008.02.03 20:26:00 -
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Originally by: Kiska Myau Edited by: Kiska Myau on 03/02/2008 20:22:48 I am planning to use CNR for lvl4 missions with omni tank, so I dont have to change hardeners every tank. Do u think it is possible to use this setup and tank all the missions withoutproblems (including DED blockade and other difficult missions). Please comment.
7 t2 cruise, heavy diminishing nos 1 xl gist c-type, gist b-type shield amplifier, gist b type therm, kinetic hardeners, DG em hardener, t2 invul 2 BCU t2, 1 DG bcu t2, 2 PDU t2 rigs ccc implants crystall low grade + omega lg
Search for Eve fitting tool - it's great for these hypothetical setups.
Otherwise, stop being lazy. It takes 5-10 seconds tops to switch out hardeners.
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EvilMan I
Minmatar Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.02.03 20:27:00 -
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why not simple 2x DG invuls? when i did lvl 4 missions on cnr, 2x DG invuls been enough for all missions. Make WAR, not love! |
Kiska Myau
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Posted - 2008.02.03 20:31:00 -
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did u use only 2 invuls ? what about amarr/merc missions where there is a lot of thermal damage.
Also the reason to use omni tank, because that sometimes i am given missions without knowledge which faction i am going to fight
ps. it is not hypothetical setup, it is what I was using before (exept i was changing hardeners all the time)
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2008.02.03 20:47:00 -
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Edited by: Marcus TheMartin on 03/02/2008 20:47:59 meh nevermind
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Bladen Kerst
Caldari Bladen Kerst Innovations
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Posted - 2008.02.04 00:21:00 -
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Well even passive tanked Raven can tank Recon mission 1st stage with right hardeners. It is all about how many BCSs your setup allows you to equip.
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Bladen Kerst
Caldari Bladen Kerst Innovations
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Posted - 2008.02.04 00:24:00 -
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Also I can understand why you would want omnitank, because I had almost lost my ship on numerous occasions by forgeting to switch hardeners.
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Onyon
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Posted - 2008.02.04 04:08:00 -
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3 words to seriously consider
faction gear -> ganked
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Kerfira
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.02.05 15:15:00 -
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This works for me. Perma-tanks too.....
High: 7x Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher I 1x Salvager I
Mid: 1x Gist C-Type X-Large Shield Booster 1x Gist B-Type Shield Boost Amplifier 3x Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field 1x Dark Blood Cap Recharger
Low: 3x Caldari Navy Ballistics Control Unit 2x Capacitor Flux Coil II
Rigs: 3x Capacitor Control Circuit I
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Jessamine
Umbra Legion
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Posted - 2008.02.05 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: Kerfira This works for me. Perma-tanks too.....
High: 7x Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher I 1x Salvager I
Mid: 1x Gist C-Type X-Large Shield Booster 1x Gist B-Type Shield Boost Amplifier 3x Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field 1x Dark Blood Cap Recharger
Low: 3x Caldari Navy Ballistics Control Unit 2x Capacitor Flux Coil II
Rigs: 3x Capacitor Control Circuit I
I use the same but a b-type booster, a Photon Field T2 instead of 3rd Invuln., and a t2 Cap Recharger instead of DB, permatanks. Very good ship.
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Kadoes Khan
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Posted - 2008.02.05 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: Onyon 3 words to seriously consider
faction gear -> ganked
Eh, well you can try, better bring lots of friends though. -=^=- "Someday the world will recognize the genius in my insanity." |
Teh Supah
eXceed Inc. eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.02.05 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: Kiska Myau including DED blockade and other difficult missions
This one is tough but it uses omni tank anyway if u can tank it u can tank every mission I can tank it in t2 fit. Thing is it just takes ages to finish. Your set up will be able to tank it (not whole aggro though)
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Sergo Mor'Zert
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Posted - 2008.02.05 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: Kiska Myau Edited by: Kiska Myau on 03/02/2008 20:22:48 I am planning to use CNR for lvl4 missions with omni tank, so I dont have to change hardeners every tank. Do u think it is possible to use this setup and tank all the missions withoutproblems (including DED blockade and other difficult missions). Please comment.
7 t2 cruise, heavy diminishing nos 1 xl gist c-type, gist b-type shield amplifier, gist b type therm, kinetic hardeners, DG em hardener, t2 invul 2 BCU t2, 1 DG bcu t2, 2 PDU t2 rigs ccc implants crystall low grade + omega lg
change mids for: 3 DG invul and cap recharger and you should be set (check skills that increase cap and its recharge and lowers shield booster cap use per cycle... those must be at level5), if you still have issues use 2 BCUs and 3 PDUs in lows
and here you have perma running omni tanked cnr, |
Jessamine
Umbra Legion
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Posted - 2008.02.05 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: Sergo Mor'Zert
change mids for: 3 DG invul and cap recharger and you should be set (check skills that increase cap and its recharge and lowers shield booster cap use per cycle... those must be at level5), if you still have issues use 2 BCUs and 3 PDUs in lows
and here you have perma running omni tanked cnr,
Cap Flux Coil IIs lower overall cap but give a better recharge boost. I went from 12 minute cap out to permatank by changing two PDU IIs for two CFC IIs
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Dianeces
Minmatar Repo Industries
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Posted - 2008.02.05 22:01:00 -
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Originally by: Kadoes Khan
Originally by: Onyon 3 words to seriously consider
faction gear -> ganked
Eh, well you can try, better bring lots of friends though.
If by lots, you mean 5 or so people, yeah. Probably not a good idea to go saying stuff like that.
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Avery Fatwallet
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Posted - 2008.02.05 22:03:00 -
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im pretty sure you just take 3x DG/CN Invuls for an omnitank on a CNR. if you can slap on a gist booster, too, you should be able to permarun the whole setup with a few CCC and CFC IIs.
37.5 invuls are getting cheaper by the day. get some. theres no reason not to, if you can afford them.
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Kerfira
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.02.05 23:40:00 -
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When considering a permatank there's only two things that matter, how many effective HP you can boost (including resists), and how fast you can recharge CAP.
The first one of these usually means you have to have a good booster, a shield boost amp, and 3-4 hardeners of certain types. If you choose the 3 DG route, you'll need a cap recharger to keep up their high cap use. This generally takes care of all your mid slots.
Going on to your low slots, you'll want to use three of them (at least) for BCS since damage is king when finishing missions.
This leaves rigs and 2 (maybe only 1) low-slots for cap recharge. The rigs are easy enough (CCC's), but then what to put in the lows?
A few people have suggested PDU's, but this is a bad idea! On paper it is a wonderful module. It increases cap recharge, shield recharge, powergrid, total cap and total shield. Nice, ehh? ... NOT! Of all these nice benefits the only useful one is the cap recharge! The others might sound nice, but remember that your objective has to be cap recharge! For that, all the other bonuses of the PDU are (close to) useless.
As other people has said, this is where the Capacitor Flux Coil comes in. It might look bad since it reduces your total amount of CAP, but the recharge rate is fabulous!
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zayanka
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Posted - 2008.02.05 23:51:00 -
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thanks for the input to everyone, used this setup, runs 24/7, tanks all mission without any problems. Had full aggro in DED blockade and most of the others missions.
Power Diagnostic System II 3 x Ballistic Control System II True sansha cap power relay
(need to try with 2 cap flux coils)
Gist C-Type X-Large Shield Booster (with crystal low grade boosts 869 hp per cycle) Gist B-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Gist B-Type Ballistic Deflection Field Gist B-Type Heat Dissipation Field Dread Guristas Photon Scattering Field Invulnerability Field II
7 Cruise Missile Launcher II tractor beam 3 x CCC rigs
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Lord WarATron
Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.06 00:18:00 -
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Edited by: Lord WarATron on 06/02/2008 00:19:43 Edited by: Lord WarATron on 06/02/2008 00:18:42
Originally by: zayanka thanks for the input to everyone, used this setup, runs 24/7, tanks all mission without any problems. Had full aggro in DED blockade and most of the others missions.
Power Diagnostic System II 3 x Ballistic Control System II True sansha cap power relay
(need to try with 2 cap flux coils)
Gist C-Type X-Large Shield Booster (with crystal low grade boosts 869 hp per cycle) Gist B-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Gist B-Type Ballistic Deflection Field Gist B-Type Heat Dissipation Field Dread Guristas Photon Scattering Field Invulnerability Field II
7 Cruise Missile Launcher II tractor beam 3 x CCC rigs
Drop the relay and PDU, 2 x Flux II will permarun with 5/4 cap skills if you go to 3 hardners + cap recharger insted of 4 harders (think about it - you just wasted the effectiveness of shield boost with that relay, and 3 hardners are overkill currently.
Or, if using full crystal set, just use 3 x t2 invul for afk setup for all lvl4's. You can do all lvl4's in this game on 2 hardners (2 DG invuls) if you have crystal set quite easaly. --
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