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Roz Akanit
Akanit Supplies
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Posted - 2008.02.04 14:10:00 -
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I've just become a dual booter, XP on 1 HDD, Ubuntu 7.1 on a 2nd HDD. 
I must say, absoulutely brilliant CCP/TG, TYVM. 
Once I had activated the restricted driver for my graphics card and run the tests (all passed 1st time) I opened eve
There was no noticable change from the Windows Verion (except it's not the new graphics - I'm not too bothered).
I'm getting about 30fps in space, which by direct comparason I'm getting 50fps using the new graphics on a windows install.
I was in awe of how easy it was to install and setup not only Ubuntu but Linux-Eve as well, that I'm going to convert my 2nd machine to incorperate a 2nd HDD with Dual boot.
But.....
The start movie made the game hang for a long time. I quit the game and unticked it from the options menu at next login and started without any problems.
When character pictures are loaded, the game freezes for a substantial length of time.
Even if "Generate Character Picture When Clicked" is not selected, it still loads pictures when people in your addressbook log in or out for the 1st time and it updates their picture. 
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Norwood Franskly
Minmatar
Fleet of the Damned
United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.05 11:10:00 -
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As far as the pictures taking a long time to load, I haven't seen that problem before, sounds like it could be a filesystem thing as it needs to download the picture to your cache and then load it in Eve. If it's freezing for a long time everytime it needs to load a pic, sounds like your hard drive read speeds are slow.
I've noticed you mentioned your running Eve on a second hard drive, a few questions? What filesystem are you using, if it's EXT3 do you have journalling enabled? Are you possibly low on disk space in you "/" partion? Are you using a swap file? Is it a pata or sata drive? Do you have something else running in background reading or writing to the disk?
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Roz Akanit
Akanit Supplies
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Posted - 2008.02.05 22:39:00 -
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54GB Maxstor 7200rmp ATA133. (Master Drive on IDE0)
Filesystem -
45GB free - 9.1 GB used
Type: ext3
I dont know what journling is, I dont know about the swapfile.
as far as I am aware it's just the Ubuntu environment and Eve running.
I have LAMP running in the background, but only to store a LAMP test environment for me, and i'm certainly not using it while playing eve.
HTH.
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Norwood Franskly
Minmatar
Fleet of the Damned
United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.06 07:09:00 -
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Edited by: Norwood Franskly on 06/02/2008 07:10:38
Edited by: Norwood Franskly on 06/02/2008 07:10:09
 Originally by: Roz Akanit
54GB Maxstor 7200rmp ATA133. (Master Drive on IDE0)
Filesystem -
45GB free - 9.1 GB used
Type: ext3
I dont know what journling is, I dont know about the swapfile.
as far as I am aware it's just the Ubuntu environment and Eve running.
I have LAMP running in the background, but only to store a LAMP test environment for me, and i'm certainly not using it while playing eve.
HTH.
I'm not a ubuntu user so I'm not sure what their default partitioning scheme is, but you can check if you have swap by
running this from a terminal:
cat /proc/swaps
which should return something like this
Filename Type Size Used Priority
/dev/sdc1 partition 2048248 76 -1
you can see I'm using a 2gb partition as swap, I have 1gb of physical ram in my system (generally it's a good idea to use 2* your mem size for swap).
Swap in Linux is a bit like virtual memory in Linux,
This article explains how to add swap space to your system http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-8.0-Manual/custom-guide/s1-swap-adding.html
This article explains a bit about journaling and how to improve filesystem performance
http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-increase-ext3-and-reiserfs-filesystems-performance.html
"man tune2fs" has a lot more info.
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ocadok
Caldari
Soviet Fleet
DeaDSpace Coalition
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Posted - 2008.02.06 09:37:00 -
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i don't think that you need to set your swap to double size of memory. if you have about 4gb then 8gb seems some... hm, strange...
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Norwood Franskly
Minmatar
Fleet of the Damned
United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.06 10:56:00 -
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Originally by: ocadok
i don't think that you need to set your swap to double size of memory. if you have about 4gb then 8gb seems some... hm, strange...
From
http://www.linux.com/feature/121916
article was written December 2007, so quite recent
Quote:
How big should my swap space be?
It is possible to run a Linux system without a swap space, and the system will run well if you have a large amount of memory -- but if you run out of physical memory then the system will crash, as it has nothing else it can do, so it is advisable to have a swap space, especially since disk space is relatively cheap.
The key question is how much? Older versions of Unix-type operating systems (such as Sun OS and Ultrix) demanded a swap space of two to three times that of physical memory. Modern implementations (such as Linux) don't require that much, but they can use it if you configure it. A rule of thumb is as follows: 1) for a desktop system, use a swap space of double system memory, as it will allow you to run a large number of applications (many of which may will be idle and easily swapped), making more RAM available for the active applications; 2) for a server, have a smaller amount of swap available (say half of physical memory) so that you have some flexibility for swapping when needed, but monitor the amount of swap space used and upgrade your RAM if necessary; 3) for older desktop machines (with say only 128MB), use as much swap space as you can spare, even up to 1GB.
The Linux 2.6 kernel added a new kernel parameter called swappiness to let administrators tweak the way Linux swaps. It is a number from 0 to 100. In essence, higher values lead to more pages being swapped, and lower values lead to more applications being kept in memory, even if they are idle. Kernel maintainer Andrew Morton has said that he runs his desktop machines with a swappiness of 100, stating that "My point is that decreasing the tendency of the kernel to swap stuff out is wrong. You really don't want hundreds of megabytes of BloatyApp's untouched memory floating about in the machine. Get it out on the disk, use the memory for something useful."
One downside to Morton's idea is that if memory is swapped out too quickly then application response time drops, because when the application's window is clicked the system has to swap the application back into memory, which will make it feel slow.
The default value for swappiness is 60. You can alter it temporarily (until you next reboot) by typing as root:
echo 50 > /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
If you want to alter it permanently then you need to change the vm.swappiness parameter in the /etc/sysctl.conf file.
if you have 4gb of ram your probably running a server (or are very rich) so your point is moot imho...
Theres an older Kerneltrap discussion about it here http://kerneltrap.org/node/3202
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Roz Akanit
Akanit Supplies
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Posted - 2008.02.06 23:38:00 -
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The swap partition is reading aroung 2GB. I'll have a play with some of the other settings over the weekend.
Thaks for the tips though.
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