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toto moor
Eve Corporate Enterprise
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Posted - 2008.02.05 21:57:00 -
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BOB's much vaunted fortress Delve seems to have fallen at the first hurdle. Pulling their tenants back to delve (those that actually went)was supposed to bring a concerntrated firepower bloc to Delve that the anti-BOB coalition would not be able to break.
QY6 has fallen (the first BOB station in Delve) leaving F-T wide open to fall as well.
Was the decision to abandon the BOB tenants and require them to leave the systems they own/rent to defend BOB's core their undoing?
What is certain is that BOB fought long and hard for QY6 and still lost it, without the support in numbers of their former tenants can they hold any non NPC systems in Delve?
BOB were clearly the most powerful force in EVE for a long time, their inability to save "Fortress Delve" shows that even the mighty can fall. But what led to this state of affairs? BOBs arrogance? its disdain for its tenants? or a belief that they were in fact so good no-one could touch them?
I personally believe that BOBs biggest problem is that they think they are invincible, even when the evidence is presented in front of them, and that arrogance leads to making daft decisions.
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.05 22:02:00 -
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j-l will have to fall before f-t just sayin'
420 smoke sov4 everyday
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o2bu4once
Amarr Dark Angel Battalion
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Posted - 2008.02.05 22:04:00 -
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Edited by: o2bu4once on 05/02/2008 22:07:00 It will be intresting to see what happens.BoB have lost alot of capitals as the coalition has.With supply lines happered.. will they have the staying power and be able to replace losses?
Does BoB they have these huge reserves they have talked about?They seem to not be able to truely do as they will to do.They have been stopped.While still winning many fights.
They win most of the fights and handle lag very well.It's Like they are not lagged as BAD as some people.This is either through learning to work with it before,Learning how to use in game tweeks to minimize it(GM info?) or cheating.The later not being likely.
BoB are still powerful and if they pulled out and evacuated from Delve and sat for awhile.With that many caps still and their expereince.Would be intresting for anyone to deal with after the colation goes it's ways.Will they fight till the end ?
Intresting stuff to eat popcorn too :)
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DHB FooFighter
Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.02.05 22:08:00 -
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Damn these threads are getting repetitive
Nobody honestly cares about your "in-depth analysis" of a war you probably aren't fighting in. And -1 for the poorly disguised flamebait throughout the post. Please, try harder next time.
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matty01
Minmatar Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.02.05 22:09:00 -
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Originally by: DHB FooFighter Damn these threads are getting repetitive
Nobody honestly cares about your "in-depth analysis" of a war you probably aren't fighting in. And -1 for the poorly disguised flamebait throughout the post. Please, try harder next time.
yes
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Spoon Thumb
Caldari Paladin Imperium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.05 22:09:00 -
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Partly attitude combined with the dev scandals. Don't underestimate the scandal regarding Dev's and cheating. There were lots of reactionary forces at the time, but goons seem to have really managed to harness or provide a long term place for all the haters
Khaldari khanidpublic: RP channel for Kingdom loyalists
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toto moor
Eve Corporate Enterprise
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Posted - 2008.02.05 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: DHB FooFighter Damn these threads are getting repetitive
Nobody honestly cares about your "in-depth analysis" of a war you probably aren't fighting in. And -1 for the poorly disguised flamebait throughout the post. Please, try harder next time.
To be fair here, I didnt create "Fortress Delve" that would be the CEO of BOB, also to be fair the fact that the first real push on "Fortress Delve" seems to have led to a anti-BOB victory is a cause for discussion.
I dont think that discussing wether BOB have actually bitten off more than they can chew (or not depending on your view) is flaming.
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Fry Fortune
Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.05 22:24:00 -
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can we have more: "woot killed 8 bob larges in qy6- today, getting sov and starting countdown for them losing sov 4"
than these rather pointless threads
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.05 22:26:00 -
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Originally by: Fry Fortune can we have more: "woot killed 8 bob larges in qy6- today, getting sov and starting countdown for them losing sov 4"
than these rather pointless threads
yeah we should start up another delve journal thread
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DHB FooFighter
Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.02.05 22:26:00 -
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Originally by: toto moor
To be fair here, I didnt create "Fortress Delve" that would be the CEO of BOB, also to be fair the fact that the first real push on "Fortress Delve" seems to have led to a anti-BOB victory is a cause for discussion.
I dont think that discussing wether BOB have actually bitten off more than they can chew (or not depending on your view) is flaming.
Careful, your bias is showing.
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Exortius Amarrus
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.05 22:27:00 -
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QY6 = Delve?
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Omega Man
The Geddy Foundation
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Posted - 2008.02.05 22:28:00 -
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Only the goons seem to really care and they dont take the game seriously so imagine how interested everyone else is. -
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Man Pat And His Black And White Cat
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Posted - 2008.02.05 22:29:00 -
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Grats on killing pixels with other pixels guys.
YOU GUYS ROCK. /em highfives Mittens.
Postman Pat
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Ace Frehley
Minmatar Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2008.02.05 22:32:00 -
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BoB needs STS-1 and cap Rich Hunter to save them from this situation!
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Elizabeth Fallbrook
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.05 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: Exortius Amarrus QY6 = Delve?
mmhm.
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.05 22:37:00 -
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Originally by: Exortius Amarrus QY6 = Delve?
i know that since you were so recently a member of firmus ixion alliance that you may not be aware of the exact geography of delve yet but indeed it is true qy6 is a station system in delve a factory to be exact!
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SunglassesInSpace
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.05 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: Post Grats on killing pixels with other pixels guys.
YOU GUYS ROCK. /em highfives Mittens.
I'm pretty sure you're windypops.
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Hrin
Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.05 22:41:00 -
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Originally by: Exortius Amarrus QY6 = Delve?
Its where you lost that mothership? You know, you lost about 14 POS? You personally lost a Rohk there yesterday to a driveby. You lost a station there today. BoB built it (eve-maps says in september last year) Same constellation as F-T. You can't log into it becuase all your POS are destroyed and replaced with bubbles.
Ring any bells yet?
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.05 22:43:00 -
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Originally by: Hrin
Originally by: Exortius Amarrus QY6 = Delve?
Its where you lost that mothership? You know, you lost about 14 POS? You personally lost a Rohk there yesterday to a driveby. You lost a station there today. BoB built it (eve-maps says in september last year) Same constellation as F-T. You can't log into it becuase all your POS are destroyed and replaced with bubbles.
Ring any bells yet?
actually bob have lost over 20 large towers in qy6 now :eng101:
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DHB FooFighter
Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.02.05 22:44:00 -
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And you didn't think what you posted in the OP was flamebait...
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Darko1107
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.02.05 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: The Mittani
Originally by: Exortius Amarrus QY6 = Delve?
i know that since you were so recently a member of firmus ixion alliance that you may not be aware of the exact geography of delve yet but indeed it is true qy6 is a station system in delve a factory to be exact!
You really are just a wonderful person arent you. You come down from your chair high up in the clouds just to help this poor uneducated man, even though he is your sworn enemy.
Such wonderous levels of magnanimity!
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Acid Meth
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Posted - 2008.02.05 22:47:00 -
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I'm just happy that eve is proving no one can stand on their own.
This game is about skill yes, but its also about politics, the most SP doesn't always win the game.
So people can say "oh well it took 50 million of them to beat us", I think it was more they knew how to play the game, you didn't.
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Omeega
UA Industry Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.05 22:48:00 -
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yup mittens is rly a nice guy.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Captain Thunk
Captain Morgan Society
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Posted - 2008.02.05 22:49:00 -
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If this is the way the Delve campaign is going to continue then it looks like BoB would have been better to hang onto those regions and at least force the coalition to constantly push them back.
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.05 22:54:00 -
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Originally by: Darko1107
You really are just a wonderful person arent you. You come down from your chair high up in the clouds just to help this poor uneducated man, even though he is your sworn enemy.
Such wonderous levels of magnanimity!
mittens do not have chairs if we are lucky we have a nice sock drawer to be stored in though (pref. w/mothballs i dont like moths :(((( )
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Tido Maliyu
Condottieri Industries The Economy
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Posted - 2008.02.05 22:58:00 -
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I think their current situation has something to do with 1. Lag, and 2. 10:1 odds, summat... But i wouldn't know for sure, just guessin' <.>
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Bob Moore
The JORG Corporation
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Posted - 2008.02.05 22:59:00 -
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Bob iz goin to hire da a-team... and maybe chuck norris too. oO
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Gods Coldblood
Naughty 40 Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.02.05 23:09:00 -
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Like i've said many times before,
" If your in a street and a gang of 20 men beat you up, you don't really feel the loss as there was nothing much you could do too win.. Now, if your back in the same street and some sterotype nerd comes up to you and lays you out cold with one punch you start questioning your manhood and the loss hurts! "
Either way im still looking for my lost cookies
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.05 23:14:00 -
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wait guys im kind of confused the 'of course we lost there were impossible odds' argument does this conflict with the 'we planned for everyone to attack us we control your game from a barbeque' argument or not :o
it is easy to confuse mittens though
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thoth foc
Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2008.02.05 23:16:00 -
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wow.. deja vu thread here! mitten was here b4 me too _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) ATUK (.5.) DICE (BOB) xElcyion Lacar
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Dangerously Cheesey
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.05 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: Exortius Amarrus QY6 = Delve?
Lemme check da map I will have to get back to you.
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Cvuos
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.05 23:19:00 -
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Originally by: Hrin
Originally by: Exortius Amarrus QY6 = Delve?
Its where you lost that mothership? You know, you lost about 14 POS? You personally lost a Rohk there yesterday to a driveby. You lost a station there today. BoB built it (eve-maps says in september last year) Same constellation as F-T. You can't log into it becuase all your POS are destroyed and replaced with bubbles.
Ring any bells yet?
Yeah...but it's not reeeeaaaally Delve. I mean proper Delve, Delvy DelvDelve. So keep grapsing at straws little goonie, why don't you be a man and bring it and start fighting BoB for real soon eh?
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Devian 666
Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.05 23:49:00 -
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Originally by: Cvuos
Originally by: Hrin
Originally by: Exortius Amarrus QY6 = Delve?
stuff about qy6
Yeah...but it's not reeeeaaaally Delve. I mean proper Delve, Delvy DelvDelve. So keep grapsing at straws little goonie, why don't you be a man and bring it and start fighting BoB for real soon eh?
I know qy6 isn't realy fortress delve. We didn't want to defend fortress delve anyway.
That's why you kept sending hacs and carriers outside pos shields to get killed.
I hear fortress delve was included in the orange box.
Originally by: Darkrydar Oh and killboard loss arguments are so 2005.
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.06 03:27:00 -
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there are two sov4 constelations in delve this one clearly isn't real delve so maybe the princess is in the other castle mario :(((
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Firkragg
PREDATORS OF DESTRUCTION
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Posted - 2008.02.06 04:49:00 -
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Originally by: The Mittani there are two sov4 constelations in delve this one clearly isn't real delve so maybe the princess is in the other castle mario :(((
This made me lol. The final battle for delve wont be an epic fleet fight, it will be sir molle on a bridge over lava and a usefully placed platform over his head.
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Aneurysm
Gallente Revival.
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Posted - 2008.02.06 04:53:00 -
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Originally by: The Mittani there are two sov4 constelations in delve this one clearly isn't real delve so maybe the princess is in the other castle mario :(((
But i want a titan abortion :( ---------------------------------
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WraithFire
Cassandra's Light
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Posted - 2008.02.06 05:31:00 -
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Well the excuse, "We do not want Delve anyway," may become imminent in the future, but that is so five minutes ago. Although "Delve is our island," thingy is new, I wonder if they will come up with something more catchy than the island thingy.
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Junkie Beverage
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.06 08:13:00 -
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Originally by: WraithFire Well the excuse, "We do not want Delve anyway," may become imminent in the future, but that is so five minutes ago. Although "Delve is our island," thingy is new, I wonder if they will come up with something more catchy than the island thingy.
ISLAND DOES NOT FLOAT
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WraithFire
Cassandra's Light
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Posted - 2008.02.06 08:47:00 -
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Originally by: Junkie Beverage
Originally by: WraithFire Well the excuse, "We do not want Delve anyway," may become imminent in the future, but that is so five minutes ago. Although "Delve is our island," thingy is new, I wonder if they will come up with something more catchy than the island thingy.
ISLAND DOES NOT FLOAT
Dude, I said something new. U used the island again man.
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Sakura San
X - Beyond the Frontier
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Posted - 2008.02.06 09:06:00 -
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Originally by: toto moor
BOB were clearly the most powerful force in EVE for a long time, ...
and they still are (on their own), but on the other side you have quite some entities very dedicated to make them fall. (which is not going to happen tbh, delve will eventually fall, but BOB will be alive and kicking - i pity those who try to live there without their coalition support tbh)
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Doctor Mario
LightHammer MAC
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Posted - 2008.02.06 09:21:00 -
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Originally by: The Mittani there are two sov4 constelations in delve this one clearly isn't real delve so maybe the princess is in the other castle mario :(((
Did anyone said my name?
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geno effort
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.06 09:34:00 -
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Originally by: Sakura San (which is not going to happen tbh, delve will eventually fall, but BOB will be alive and kicking - i pity those who try to live there without their coalition support tbh)
i for one would be terrified of BoB in a region without any BoB stations or POSes remaining in it. must be the stench alone.
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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.06 09:35:00 -
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can we just ban whoever starts another thread about bob/goons/delve? This is getting really stupid. Use Mittani's thread if you want to post about it. -clp
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Xdust
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.06 10:54:00 -
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I suggest that Fortress Delve be renamed the Orange Box.
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Muro Deez
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.06 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: Xdust I suggest that Fortress Delve be renamed the Orange Box.
Cheap but didn't last long?
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Rhaegor Stormborn
Volition Cult The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2008.02.06 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: DHB FooFighter Damn these threads are getting repetitive
Nobody honestly cares about your "in-depth analysis" of a war you probably aren't fighting in. And -1 for the poorly disguised flamebait throughout the post. Please, try harder next time.
100% Agreed.
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KIAEddZ
Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.06 16:15:00 -
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Without a doubt, BoB have a lot to prove where the "Fortress Delve" statement is concerned.
Time will tell.
KIA EVE Home
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TWD
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.06 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: KIAEddZ Without a doubt, BoB have a lot to prove where the "Fortress Delve" statement is concerned.
Time will tell.
I sense a new "contract" coming up!
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Dangerously Cheesey
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.06 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: Sakura San
Originally by: toto moor
BOB were clearly the most powerful force in EVE for a long time, ...
and they still are (on their own), but on the other side you have quite some entities very dedicated to make them fall. (which is not going to happen tbh, delve will eventually fall, but BOB will be alive and kicking - i pity those who try to live there without their coalition support tbh)
Yup because all those pilots who joined BoB corps in the last 6 months (you know, the ones who make up at least 2/3's of bob ships when they do ops?) totally joined so they could live in NPC stations and not because of BoB's "prestige" and status as "endgame alliance".
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Nekumi
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.06 16:31:00 -
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Edited by: Nekumi on 06/02/2008 16:31:17
Originally by: Dangerously Cheesey
Yup because all those pilots who joined BoB corps in the last 6 months (you know, the ones who make up at least 2/3's of bob ships when they do ops?) totally joined so they could live in NPC stations and not because of BoB's "prestige" and status as "endgame alliance".
or because they had nowhere left to go.
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Tholarim
Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.06 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: TWD
Originally by: KIAEddZ Without a doubt, BoB have a lot to prove where the "Fortress Delve" statement is concerned.
Time will tell.
I sense a new "contract" coming up!
Did you finish your last "contract" ?
Maybe someday someone will actually pay isk to hire the "brutal pvp force" that is KIA. I don't think bob has anything to prove to anyone, but superfriends/tortuga whatever you are called has. Please do not post pictures of players in your sig - Mitnal |
Flow Befort
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.02.06 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: KIAEddZ Without a doubt, BoB have a lot to prove where the "Fortress Delve" statement is concerned.
Time will tell.
I sense a new "contract" coming up!
Did you finish your last "contract" ?
Maybe someday someone will actually pay isk to hire the "brutal pvp force" that is KIA. I don't think bob has anything to prove to anyone, but superfriends/tortuga whatever you are called has.
I'd pay KIA to grief you guys into some NPC stations when you go back to empire tbh.
I figure I can afford it, because lol, bob
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Janu Hull
Caldari Terra Incognita Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2008.02.06 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: Ace Frehley BoB needs STS-1 and cap Rich Hunter to save them from this situation!
I'm afraid the space shuttle Columbia is in no condition to assist them... /me mourns
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Polyphony
Dirty Labs
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Posted - 2008.02.06 22:19:00 -
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Have fun storming the castle.
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Remlin
Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 07:21:00 -
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Originally by: Cvuos Yeah...but it's not reeeeaaaally Delve. I mean proper Delve, Delvy DelvDelve. So keep grapsing at straws little goonie, why don't you be a man and bring it and start fighting BoB for real soon eh?
Is that something like SOHO Delve? or is more like "The Village" Delve? "Heroes don't die, they reload" |
Remlin
Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 07:21:00 -
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Originally by: Cvuos Yeah...but it's not reeeeaaaally Delve. I mean proper Delve, Delvy DelvDelve. So keep grapsing at straws little goonie, why don't you be a man and bring it and start fighting BoB for real soon eh?
Is that something like SOHO Delve? or is more like "The Village" Delve?
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Vanessa LaiDai
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 07:25:00 -
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Originally by: KIAEddZ Without a doubt, BoB have a lot to prove where the "Fortress Delve" statement is concerned.
Time will tell.
hi Eddz.
So when I get enough isk, I'm going to contract KIA to chill with us and shoot stuff cause seriously, oprev was fun.
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Brobuck
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 08:20:00 -
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Edited by: Brobuck on 07/02/2008 08:22:49
Originally by: The Mittani j-l will have to fall before f-t just sayin'
Sorry, I missed the memo, are we taking f-t on thursday or friday of this week?
Originally by: Polyphony Have fun storming the castle.
Why didn't you tell me we have a holocaust cloak?
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KIAEddZ
Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.07 09:26:00 -
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Originally by: Vanessa LaiDai
Originally by: KIAEddZ Without a doubt, BoB have a lot to prove where the "Fortress Delve" statement is concerned.
Time will tell.
hi Eddz.
So when I get enough isk, I'm going to contract KIA to chill with us and shoot stuff cause seriously, oprev was fun.
<3
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thoth foc
Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2008.02.07 11:47:00 -
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Edited by: thoth foc on 07/02/2008 11:48:00
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: KIAEddZ Without a doubt, BoB have a lot to prove where the "Fortress Delve" statement is concerned.
Time will tell.
I sense a new "contract" coming up!
Did you finish your last "contract" ?
Maybe someday someone will actually pay isk to hire the "brutal pvp force" that is KIA. I don't think bob has anything to prove to anyone, but superfriends/tortuga whatever you are called has.
I wish someone would "contract" me, so that i was to avoid fighting their enemy.. meuh, how the merc business has changed from back in the day... _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) ATUK (.5.) DICE (BOB) xElcyion Lacar
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King Fury
Caldari Fury Corp.
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Posted - 2008.02.07 13:51:00 -
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Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: KIAEddZ Without a doubt, BoB have a lot to prove where the "Fortress Delve" statement is concerned.
Time will tell.
I sense a new "contract" coming up!
Did you finish your last "contract" ?
Maybe someday someone will actually pay isk to hire the "brutal pvp force" that is KIA. I don't think bob has anything to prove to anyone, but superfriends/tortuga whatever you are called has.
Hmm cant remember any post about KIA use of exploits or devs.
In recent years bob is looked at as a joke (Exploits, cheats, devs, Vegeta = lemonde fiasco, T20 debarcle, another dev I cant remeber now) , maybe when BoB get there act together and stop whining on the forums regarding numbers, they may get some respect, but I doubt it
If only you werent so arrogant you wouldnt be in the hole you are now. As far as the rest of Eve can see Goonies and co and taking regions and pwning you? c/d?
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Shinori
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.02.07 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: King Fury
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: KIAEddZ Without a doubt, BoB have a lot to prove where the "Fortress Delve" statement is concerned.
Time will tell.
I sense a new "contract" coming up!
Did you finish your last "contract" ?
Maybe someday someone will actually pay isk to hire the "brutal pvp force" that is KIA. I don't think bob has anything to prove to anyone, but superfriends/tortuga whatever you are called has.
Hmm cant remember any post about KIA use of exploits or devs.
In recent years bob is looked at as a joke (Exploits, cheats, devs, Vegeta = lemonde fiasco, T20 debarcle, another dev I cant remeber now) , maybe when BoB get there act together and stop whining on the forums regarding numbers, they may get some respect, but I doubt it
If only you werent so arrogant you wouldnt be in the hole you are now. As far as the rest of Eve can see Goonies and co and taking regions and pwning you? c/d?
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Tholarim
Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.07 14:10:00 -
[63]
Edited by: Tholarim on 07/02/2008 14:11:03
Originally by: King Fury Hmm cant remember any post about KIA use of exploits or devs.
In recent years bob is looked at as a joke (Exploits, cheats, devs, Vegeta = lemonde fiasco, T20 debarcle, another dev I cant remeber now) , maybe when BoB get there act together and stop whining on the forums regarding numbers, they may get some respect, but I doubt it
If only you werent so arrogant you wouldnt be in the hole you are now. As far as the rest of Eve can see Goonies and co and taking regions and pwning you? c/d?
wassup goon alt, your bias is showing! Please do not post pictures of players in your sig - Mitnal |
Maksiim
Doom and Gloom
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Posted - 2008.02.07 14:25:00 -
[64]
KIA are well, not great and no amount of Super-friend's or 900b sugar-daddy inheritance is going to change this so lets just keep on topic and keep the ex-merc's NAP squads at bay.
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Jet Max
Gallente M. Corp Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2008.02.07 14:53:00 -
[65]
Originally by: King Fury Hmm cant remember any post about KIA use of exploits or devs.
In recent years bob is looked at as a joke (Exploits, cheats, devs, Vegeta = lemonde fiasco, T20 debarcle, another dev I cant remeber now) , maybe when BoB get there act together and stop whining on the forums regarding numbers, they may get some respect, but I doubt it
If only you werent so arrogant you wouldnt be in the hole you are now. As far as the rest of Eve can see Goonies and co and taking regions and pwning you? c/d?
WOW! uncut, straight forward, right bang in the middle slap in Tholarim's face! 'ave it!
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The Knight
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 16:09:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Tholarim Edited by: Tholarim on 07/02/2008 14:11:03
Originally by: King Fury Hmm cant remember any post about KIA use of exploits or devs.
In recent years bob is looked at as a joke (Exploits, cheats, devs, Vegeta = lemonde fiasco, T20 debarcle, another dev I cant remeber now) , maybe when BoB get there act together and stop whining on the forums regarding numbers, they may get some respect, but I doubt it
If only you werent so arrogant you wouldnt be in the hole you are now. As far as the rest of Eve can see Goonies and co and taking regions and pwning you? c/d?
wassup goon alt, your bias is showing!
What part of what he said is bias? Is any of it not true?
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HEY LISTEN
i swear this is true
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Posted - 2008.02.07 16:22:00 -
[67]
Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 07/02/2008 16:27:33
Originally by: King Fury Hmm cant remember any post about KIA use of exploits or devs.
In recent years bob is looked at as a joke (Exploits, cheats, devs, Vegeta = lemonde fiasco, T20 debarcle, another dev I cant remeber now) , maybe when BoB get there act together and stop whining on the forums regarding numbers, they may get some respect, but I doubt it
If only you werent so arrogant you wouldnt be in the hole you are now. As far as the rest of Eve can see Goonies and co and taking regions and pwning you? c/d?
Are you repeating yourself or do you have extra info?.
(Exploits, cheats, devs, Vegeta = lemonde fiasco, T20 debarcle, another dev I cant remeber now)
Im sure you have gone over old ground at least once or twice in that little rant. Now now does it fill it out and make it seem like more if you use 2 or 3 terms for a single unimportant issue?.
The real reason most of eve is kicking the crap out of BOB is because at one time or another BOB kicked the crap out of them, goons, ra, razor, ascn, d2 the list goes on and on and most of the alliances i mention were as dead and buried as you can actualy get in eve they just waited napped nerfed and now have suffecient numbers to beat bob.
Anything else is propaganda.
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The Knight
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 16:48:00 -
[68]
Originally by: HEY LISTEN The real reason most of eve is kicking the crap out of BOB is because....
Whoa, slow down there little bobbit.
The real reason will be written by the winners, not the losers.
Nor will it be written by the alts of the losers.
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Shinori
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.02.07 16:54:00 -
[69]
BOB is going through some hard times. Just look at CULBA's Vagabond lossmail.
Capacitor Power Relay II Overdrive Injector System I 10MN MicroWarpdrive I Inertia Stabilizers I Hail M (loaded)
We are fighting the best of the best here.
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Nekumi
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 17:03:00 -
[70]
Originally by: The Knight
Originally by: HEY LISTEN The real reason most of eve is kicking the crap out of BOB is because....
Whoa, slow down there little bobbit.
The real reason will be written by the winners, not the losers.
Nor will it be written by the alts of the losers.
Murina isn't a bobbit.
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Dr Paithos
Minmatar Republic Deep Space Institute
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Posted - 2008.02.07 17:10:00 -
[71]
Originally by: HEY LISTEN Are you repeating yourself or do you have extra info?.
(Exploits, cheats, devs, Vegeta = lemonde fiasco, T20 debarcle, another dev I cant remeber now)
Im sure you have gone over old ground at least once or twice in that little rant. Now now does it fill it out and make it seem like more if you use 2 or 3 terms for a single unimportant issue?.
The real reason most of eve is kicking the crap out of BOB is because at one time or another BOB kicked the crap out of them, goons, ra, razor, ascn, d2 the list goes on and on and most of the alliances i mention were as dead and buried as you can actualy get in eve they just waited napped nerfed and now have suffecient numbers to beat bob.
Anything else is propaganda.
you seem quite upset sweetie perhaps you should calm down
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HEY LISTEN
i swear this is true
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Posted - 2008.02.07 17:14:00 -
[72]
Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 07/02/2008 17:15:08
Originally by: The Knight
Originally by: HEY LISTEN Are you repeating yourself or do you have extra info?.
(Exploits, cheats, devs, Vegeta = lemonde fiasco, T20 debarcle, another dev I cant remeber now)
Im sure you have gone over old ground at least once or twice in that little rant. Now now does it fill it out and make it seem like more if you use 2 or 3 terms for a single unimportant issue?.
The real reason most of eve is kicking the crap out of BOB is because at one time or another BOB kicked the crap out of them, goons, ra, razor, ascn, d2 the list goes on and on and most of the alliances i mention were as dead and buried as you can actualy get in eve they just waited napped nerfed and now have suffecient numbers to beat bob.
Anything else is propaganda.
Whoa, slow down there little bobbit.
The real reason will be written by the winners, not the losers.
Nor will it be written by the alts of the losers.
In most circumstances it would written by the victors but unfortunatly
1. im not a bobbit but nor am i a totaly obsessed anti bobbit either.
2. i dunno if anybody has told you yet but eve is not real so nobody actualy dies and as such ppl remember what realy happened.
3. It will actualy be written by ppl who know it like me, but unfortunatly also by clowns like you.
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The Knight
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 17:23:00 -
[73]
Originally by: HEY LISTEN In most circumstances it would written by the victors.
I went ahead and edited your post for you. I felt as though I had won the argument and the rest of your post was mostly just dribble.
Lemme know if there is anything else I can do for you.
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HEY LISTEN
i swear this is true
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Posted - 2008.02.07 17:36:00 -
[74]
Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 07/02/2008 17:37:07
Originally by: The Knight
Originally by: HEY LISTEN In most circumstances it would written by the victors but unfortunatly
1. im not a bobbit but nor am i a totaly obsessed anti bobbit either.
2. i dunno if anybody has told you yet but eve is not real so nobody actualy dies and as such ppl remember what realy happened.
3. It will actualy be written by ppl who know it like me, but unfortunatly also by clowns like you.
I went ahead and edited your post because i cannot think of a answer. I felt as though I had lost the argument and the rest of your post was somthing i do not have the intellect to counter.
Lemme know if there is anything else I can do for you.
You could have included the parts that you obviously cannot think of an answer too but the maybe il do it for you and fix your post.
Is there no HEY LISTEN?. Will i be watched and not allowed to build up in 0.0 again???.
Declaring victory before its all over lol are you a molle alt or has the bob arrogance rubbed off on you guys.
The first rule of the fanatic is:
When you become obsessed with the enemy you become the enemy.
Gratz on becoming the new bob.
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Wuubaa
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.07 17:37:00 -
[75]
Edited by: Wuubaa on 07/02/2008 17:42:36
Originally by: Shinori BOB is going through some hard times. Just look at CULBA's Vagabond lossmail.
Capacitor Power Relay II Overdrive Injector System I 10MN MicroWarpdrive I Inertia Stabilizers I Hail M (loaded)
We are fighting the best of the best here.
I liked your tempest setup.
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Vahl
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 17:42:00 -
[76]
Originally by: HEY LISTEN
When you become obsessed with the enemy you become the enemy.
Gratz on becoming the new bob.
The alt uber troll with Mittani's sig has valuable information about obsession. _________________________________________________________
==REDSWARM FEDERATION==
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Moon Kitten
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 17:56:00 -
[77]
The Delve Fortress strategy is working very well so far.
We've lulled our opponents into a false sense of confidence. Oh, yes. Everything is going according to plan. Those fools, they think they can win... by winning. |
CARY
Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 17:58:00 -
[78]
This Topic is getting a little old because most of us know the results here.
I will repeat my statement I made months go. At this point of the game, BOB can roam around in a 500 man fleet it will not change the results of the outcome now.
The walls are crumbing down now. Any lost of ships will be an unrecovery lost for BOB and its pets, GOON and its Allies can with stand many losses. Its a simple point of Math, BOB reserving 1 year of surplus will not equal to near 1 month of its enemies. Yeah don't think we been sleeping for the past year. BOB and Delve is being Seiged and the time is drawing near each day. I do not see GOON and Allies letting BOB surrender this is to the death of BOB. This defeat will mean the end of what we know as BOB from EVE.
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Rochel Hakiri
principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.02.07 18:00:00 -
[79]
Originally by: King Fury
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: KIAEddZ Without a doubt, BoB have a lot to prove where the "Fortress Delve" statement is concerned.
Time will tell.
I sense a new "contract" coming up!
Did you finish your last "contract" ?
Maybe someday someone will actually pay isk to hire the "brutal pvp force" that is KIA. I don't think bob has anything to prove to anyone, but superfriends/tortuga whatever you are called has.
Hmm cant remember any post about KIA use of exploits or devs.
In recent years bob is looked at as a joke (Exploits, cheats, devs, Vegeta = lemonde fiasco, T20 debarcle, another dev I cant remeber now) , maybe when BoB get there act together and stop whining on the forums regarding numbers, they may get some respect, but I doubt it
If only you werent so arrogant you wouldnt be in the hole you are now. As far as the rest of Eve can see Goonies and co and taking regions and pwning you? c/d?
Quoting this for lolz and giggles, the man is right
oh and Bob please don't die too quickly, im pretty busy in RL, but want to shoot some Bobbits before they extinct
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Shinori
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.02.07 18:03:00 -
[80]
Edited by: Shinori on 07/02/2008 18:04:10
Originally by: Wuubaa I liked your tempest setup.
I'm a goon not omnipotence itself.
It was also my special RR POS shooting setup, you know the ones that are taking down your cynojammers?
The Vagabond has no excuse
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Xiong Yoshi
Timetravel Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.02.07 18:52:00 -
[81]
:( I've moved basically into Delve the past few weeks, hoping to get in on some of these great battles. And I'll admit - there were a few that were absolute blasts, and not too much lag to actually play too! Bonus!
But the past week has been kinda boring, to be honest. BoB did send that T2 frig gang through the other day, and THAT was pretty cool.. but for the most part they just log in and out repeatedly to try and escape traps setup for them. They hide inside of POS's and DD, but as soon as Cyno Jammer goes down - Titan runs for the Hills. Even battles which should be really good odds, or even in their favor, BOB just backs away from.
Oh well, just the grinding of wearing away at their SOV so that others can make better use of that space I suppose. I had hoped to get onto a Titan killmail, but it seems that the BoB Titan pilots are just hiding them away -- probably more concerned about their pretty toys than getting some good fun battles.
Am I any good at PVP? Hell no, I lose ships all the time and rarely get any kills of my own - but that doesn't mean it isn't fun. BoB, don't disappoint us - a lot of us came a long way to get into some good fights with you guys, and I'm hoping to get one or two more good fleet battles before you guys pack it up and go back to empire, or disolve and join other alliances.
Fly Safe, but keep in mind that these are just internet spaceships - we kill more time with them than anything else. ------------------------------------------------ There are only two types of ships: those which have blown up; and those which will.
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 18:53:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Maksiim KIA are well, not great and no amount of Super-friend's or 900b sugar-daddy inheritance is going to change this so lets just keep on topic and keep the ex-merc's NAP squads at bay.
black eclipse corp: empire pos maintainers + altposters
wooo!
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.07 19:02:00 -
[83]
Originally by: The Mittani
Originally by: Maksiim KIA are well, not great and no amount of Super-friend's or 900b sugar-daddy inheritance is going to change this so lets just keep on topic and keep the ex-merc's NAP squads at bay.
black eclipse corp: empire pos maintainers + altposters
wooo!
If only a member of BNC.E could get to the top of the BoB killboard and bag the monthly prize...
Must suck that even empire pos maintainers and alt posters are better at PvP than you guys.
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 19:04:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Avon
If only a member of BNC.E could get to the top of the BoB killboard and bag the monthly prize...
Must suck that even empire pos maintainers and alt posters are better at PvP than you guys.
everyone is better at pvp than goons
thanks for your stations though i know they are a terrible burden to bear :(((((
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The Knight
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 19:04:00 -
[85]
Originally by: HEY LISTEN You could have included the parts that you obviously cannot think of an answer too but the maybe il do it for you and fix your post.
I didn't include the other parts because they were dumb.
Really dumb.
Sorry, I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this. Nobody likes to have to be the badguy who goes around correcting the mentally challenged, but today was my day.
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Dramaticus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 19:12:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Factor Benz
I do. You fakeposted. You people sold out your dignity months ago.
Even in a dignity firesale you guys didn't buy. I was saddened.
we dont have the isk after having to pay ra rent and all Please don't use RL pictuers of players in Sig without permission. - WeatherMan |
Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.07 19:13:00 -
[87]
Edited by: Avon on 07/02/2008 19:13:54
Originally by: Dramaticus
we dont have the isk after having to pay ra rent and all
If only they had let you run their complexes back in the day. I feel for you guys, truly.
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Saffronique
Epic Hyena Laughs
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Posted - 2008.02.07 19:13:00 -
[88]
Originally by: The Knight
Whoa, slow down there little bobbit.
The real reason will be written by the winners, not the losers.
Nor will it be written by the alts of the losers.
Couldn't agree more.
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Factor Benz
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 19:16:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Avon Edited by: Avon on 07/02/2008 19:13:54
Originally by: Dramaticus
we dont have the isk after having to pay ra rent and all
If only they had let you run their complexes back in the day. I feel for you guys, truly.
We don't need your pity. We have your regions.
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HEY LISTEN
i swear this is true
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Posted - 2008.02.07 19:16:00 -
[90]
Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 07/02/2008 19:16:03
Originally by: The Mittani
Originally by: Avon
If only a member of BNC.E could get to the top of the BoB killboard and bag the monthly prize...
Must suck that even empire pos maintainers and alt posters are better at PvP than you guys.
everyone is better at pvp than goons
thanks for your stations though i know they are a terrible burden to bear :(((((
Give it a rest will ya, blob spamming to gain a bit of space is just as exploitative as and other exploit/hax in the game. You rely on it and do it because you are awful at anything that involves skill.
You have moved your goal posts right over the outpost taking and space holding spot as this is the only thing your capable of.
Your comment "thanks for your stations though i know they are a terrible burden to bear" are nothing but your poor attempt and hope that you are in some way hurting the ppl your blobbing while the rest of us are busy enjoying actualy playing the game.
More fool you.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.07 19:17:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Factor Benz
We don't need your pity. We have your regions.
Good for you. Maybe you could hang them on your wall as trophies to impress your friends?
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Equin
Gallente Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 19:20:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Factor Benz
We don't need your pity. We have your regions.
Good for you. Maybe you could hang them on your wall as trophies to impress your friends?
Is that what you used to do back when you owned regions?
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.07 19:22:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Equin
Is that what you used to do back when you owned regions?
No, I just used to make posts exactly like yours.
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Equin
Gallente Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 19:23:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Equin
Is that what you used to do back when you owned regions?
No, I just used to make posts exactly like yours.
welp.
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Factor Benz
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 19:25:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Equin
Is that what you used to do back when you owned regions?
No, I just used to make posts exactly like yours.
Now I pity you. You must be getting used to this shoe being on the other foot thing.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.07 19:26:00 -
[96]
Edited by: Avon on 07/02/2008 19:27:03
Originally by: Factor Benz
Now I pity you. You must be getting used to this shoe being on the other foot thing.
Not at all. I am really rather enjoying watching you becoming us, it is more of a defeat than we could have ever inflicted.
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Hrin
Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 19:27:00 -
[97]
Avon sounds depressed. He should go on a 'planned' two week vacation.
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Factor Benz
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 19:27:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Factor Benz
Now I pity you. You must be getting used to this shoe being on the other foot thing.
Not at all. I am really rather enjoying watching you becoming us, it is more of a defeat that we could have ever inflicted.
Nah, that's just BoB's world revolves around us complex clouding your already poor sense of perspective.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.07 19:28:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Hrin Avon sounds depressed. He should go on a 'planned' two week vacation.
I am a little depressed tbh. I'm being made redundant from my job soon, and am busy looking for a new one.
Still, I'm sure it will all turn out for the best.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.07 19:29:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Factor Benz
Nah, that's just BoB's world revolves around us complex clouding your already poor sense of perspective.
That's the denial phrase I would have been most likely to use.
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Factor Benz
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 19:37:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Factor Benz
Nah, that's just BoB's world revolves around us complex clouding your already poor sense of perspective.
That's the denial phrase I would have been most likely to use.
You planned that post at the BBQ I bet. ~~!!!PUPPETMASTA!!!~~
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Kraven Kor
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 19:38:00 -
[102]
Originally by: avon Not at all. I am really rather enjoying watching you becoming us, it is more of a defeat than we could have ever inflicted.
AHAHAHAHAHAA! "We beat you because we made you win!"
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Hrin Avon sounds depressed. He should go on a 'planned' two week vacation.
I am a little depressed tbh. I'm being made redundant from my job soon, and am busy looking for a new one.
Still, I'm sure it will all turn out for the best.
Things usually do, just gotta keep your head up. You are not your job. ----- You're not what you are, you're just what you do! So it ends with their butts and it starts with your shoe! - Awesome Car Fun Maker |
Alexi Kalashnikov
Rat Lovers Anonymous GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 20:02:00 -
[103]
Edited by: Alexi Kalashnikov on 07/02/2008 20:02:10
Originally by: Avon Edited by: Avon on 07/02/2008 19:27:03 Not at all. I am really rather enjoying watching you becoming us, it is more of a defeat than we could have ever inflicted.
I especially like the part where you're flying around in frigate gangs, except this isn't NPC space so you fail.
Holy **** Forum Warrior Avon is turning the tides of this war. They wanted to control 0.0, now they're winning: ****.
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Galen Iskandar
Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 20:09:00 -
[104]
Quote: I am really rather enjoying watching you becoming us, it is more of a defeat than we could have ever inflicted.
.... am I missing something or did he just flame himself?
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.07 20:12:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Galen Iskandar
.... am I missing something..?
You mean other than your corp ticker?
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Alexi Kalashnikov
Rat Lovers Anonymous GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 20:13:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Galen Iskandar
.... am I missing something..?
You mean other than your corp ticker?
Your hole's been dug mate, can't get out now XD
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Galen Iskandar
Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 20:16:00 -
[107]
Quote: You mean other than your corp ticker?
Better?
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Zorlag
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 20:16:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Galen Iskandar
.... am I missing something..?
You mean other than your corp ticker?
Oh man Avon you're like a hawk, nothing gets past you
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Zeitgueist
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 20:52:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Avon I am really rather enjoying watching you becoming us, it is more of a defeat than we could have ever inflicted.
Honestly with all the frigate gangs, not logging in, terrible PVP, worse fittings, drama, and bad posting....I think it's more like you're turning into us.
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Homo Erectus
Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.07 21:16:00 -
[110]
sup. i heard we were dead again. can anyone confirm/deny? thx.
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Cvuos
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 21:19:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Avon
I'm being made redundant from my job soon, and am busy looking for a new one.
sup soon redundant brosef
also respecknuckles for trolling goons
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Cvuos
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 21:21:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Homo Erectus sup. i heard we were dead again. can anyone confirm/deny? thx.
what do you mean 'again' you've been extinct for a few hundred millenia tbh
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Linkel
Minmatar Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.07 21:23:00 -
[113]
A gang of dead Bobbits raided QY6 and then vanished. We REALLY dead yet?
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CCP Mitnal
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Posted - 2008.02.07 21:28:00 -
[114]
Locked
Duplicate thread, in so many ways.
Mitnal, Community Representative
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Moon Kitten
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 21:30:00 -
[115]
To the people who are wondering why Goons continues on making posts to point out what BoB is doing wrong:
Why are we doing this?
It's simple, really. We believe that BoB can do better than what they have shown so far, and we want them to do it.
Why?
Because the only reason we are here is to have good, challenging and enjoyable battles.
The BoB fighter swarm was awesome. They took an off-hours fleet of ours by relative surprise and I think we actually lost the field afterwards. Our guys immensely enjoyed that, as they felt like they were up against large odds and fought to the last ship. Very exciting, actually, as shown by the enthusiasm felt by everyone that logged in the next day.
What else did that result in?
We had to figure out how to deal with fighter swarms in the most effective manner, counting on the fact that BoB could and would hopefully bring in a more powerful swarm. Very stimulating discussions went on and we had strategies that we decided to pursue and test. We did, they were successful.
What did we hope for?
We hoped that BoB had their own move to play, and this is where we got disappointed. There was none. After the initial fighter swam died out, the resistance ran out of steam. We see that BoB is setting up POS purely for delaying tactics, but it is not delaying us as much as it ought to. They have also shown some rather bad judgment calls in the field, such as going after an officer spawn fully knowing that they were being stalked, resulting in needless losses on their part. This is evidence of no coherent leadership in the theater of battle.
I do offer my thanks to the BoB pilots that did fight a seemingly hopeless battle to sustain their POS in QY6. Local was very clean and I hope they found enjoyment in spite of their losses.
What I do not like is that overall BoB strategy seems to be to resist Goonwarm by use of NPCs: POS, fighters. We do not particularly like fighting towers, as they are practically like fighting NPC rats although some of the POS did drop better loot. Fighters are a little better because someone is at least controlling them in some level. However, this is bound to fail because NPCs have no capability to improve or learn from success or failure. Thus won or lost battles on BoB's part will make them no better or wiser.
We've lulled our opponents into a false sense of confidence. Oh, yes. Everything is going according to plan. Those fools, they think they can win... by winning. |
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