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Xonk
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Posted - 2008.02.06 18:03:00 -
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I don't know where to search for this, so please put it in the right area, or, start a new one...
I see there are alot orf new PvP Ships coming out, and there is a BIG mining platform that NO one has even built yet, to my knowledge, so I hearby propose a next gen of mining ships for us wanna be and "Uber" miners.
Not sure what to call it yet, but, for discussion sake, call it the Harvester Class. 3 new ships. 1st one (call it the Borer) with 4 high/mining laser slots, and a 12,000m3 hold, with shields, armor, etc a step up from the HULK. next one, (Call it the Gourger) with 5 slots, and a 16,000m3 hold, and the largest (Big Boy) With 6 high slots and a 20,000m3 Hold.
Does anyone else wish to see new mining ships? Let the discussion begin!
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Philip North
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Posted - 2008.02.06 18:27:00 -
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Edited by: Philip North on 06/02/2008 18:28:48
If the big platform you refer to is the rorqual (which i tend to assume because its the only really large industrial type ship that doesn't anything aside from haul), its not for mining, and there have been plenty of them built.
Aside from that, I've seen/had a few discussions on ships that mine ore faster. I think it would be too much, theres not really enough ore to accommodate anything bigger than what we have, and if we got it anyway it would ultimately bring down prices.
I think that instead of ships/skills/items etc that will increase yield they should add a sort of second tier of asteroids that have a denser amount of minerals. I could care less hows its implemented, but just putting some new weird roids in the fields that are there wouldn't make much sense rp wise. There should also certainly be high level skills required to mine the stuff. Keeping that in mind it could be a new laser or crystal type that you would use on current roids that yielded special ores. Or there could be a new type of belt, similar to how ice belts were added, maybe using (only?) the exploration/on board scanner system.
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Xonk
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Posted - 2008.02.06 18:37:00 -
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Edited by: Xonk on 06/02/2008 18:37:58
 Originally by: Philip North
Edited by: Philip North on 06/02/2008 18:28:48
If the big platform you refer to is the rorqual (which i tend to assume because its the only really large industrial type ship that doesn't anything aside from haul), its not for mining, and there have been plenty of them built.
Aside from that, I've seen/had a few discussions on ships that mine ore faster. I think it would be too much, theres not really enough ore to accommodate anything bigger than what we have, and if we got it anyway it would ultimately bring down prices.
I think that instead of ships/skills/items etc that will increase yield they should add a sort of second tier of asteroids that have a denser amount of minerals. I could care less hows its implemented, but just putting some new weird roids in the fields that are there wouldn't make much sense rp wise. There should also certainly be high level skills required to mine the stuff. Keeping that in mind it could be a new laser or crystal type that you would use on current roids that yielded special ores. Or there could be a new type of belt, similar to how ice belts were added, maybe using (only?) the exploration/on board scanner system.
Hmmm...that is true. I can see the sense in that, as lots of pilots tend to use battleships or cruisers to mine in low sec, and all the good stuff gets mined too fast. But, I do see your point. Maybe some new 'roids and crystals, skills, and put them in areas that most of us can get to, without an escort, lol.
Thanx for the imput!
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Deadly Addiction
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Posted - 2008.02.06 19:22:00 -
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The only mining ships that will be used are the ones that can pull the most ore per cycle that is why there aren't that many mining ships
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Nekopyat
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Posted - 2008.02.06 21:40:00 -
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Heh.
They could always introduce more 'low sec' mining ships.. massive drone bays, 'mine while cloaked', WC stab bonus, etc.
Or faction miners that don't get attacked by the faction rats that build them.
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Xonk
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Posted - 2008.02.06 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: Nekopyat
Heh.
They could always introduce more 'low sec' mining ships.. massive drone bays, 'mine while cloaked', WC stab bonus, etc.
Or faction miners that don't get attacked by the faction rats that build them.
Yes. I would love to mine in low sec, but I have no buddies to mine with, and in a .4 or lower, there are always peeps that like to kill single pilots. Anyone want to join me in Hodrold? lol.
Keep the ideas coming...maybe the DEV team will see this... 
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Mr Twinkie
The Bastards
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Posted - 2008.02.07 00:26:00 -
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Edited by: Mr Twinkie on 07/02/2008 00:25:57
Originally by: Xonk
Originally by: Nekopyat
Heh.
They could always introduce more 'low sec' mining ships.. massive drone bays, 'mine while cloaked', WC stab bonus, etc.
Or faction miners that don't get attacked by the faction rats that build them.
Yes. I would love to mine in low sec, but I have no buddies to mine with, and in a .4 or lower, there are always peeps that like to kill single pilots. Anyone want to join me in Hodrold? lol.
Keep the ideas coming...maybe the DEV team will see this...
hodrold u say.... 
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Xonk
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Posted - 2008.02.07 00:36:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Twinkie
Edited by: Mr Twinkie on 07/02/2008 00:25:57
Originally by: Xonk
Originally by: Nekopyat
Heh.
They could always introduce more 'low sec' mining ships.. massive drone bays, 'mine while cloaked', WC stab bonus, etc.
Or faction miners that don't get attacked by the faction rats that build them.
Yes. I would love to mine in low sec, but I have no buddies to mine with, and in a .4 or lower, there are always peeps that like to kill single pilots. Anyone want to join me in Hodrold? lol.
Keep the ideas coming...maybe the DEV team will see this...
hodrold u say....
Yar....yup. There are some nice low sec areas nearby.... 
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Morcam
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Posted - 2008.02.07 02:44:00 -
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As long as you can't use them in highsec, I could possibly support this. However, I posted a thread about a mining cap ship in 0.0 for low-ends, and got a dev response stating quite clearly "No Direct Mining Capital Ships." Obviously, mining support ships like the rorq are ok.
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Typheonic
Gallente
Astrum Contract Services Group
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Posted - 2008.02.07 13:50:00 -
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I believe if you search around you will find several threads regarding new mining ships or mining support ships. It would be nice if CCP would consider a new line of mining vessels better suited for low-sec work in potentially hostile territory. As it is both mining barges and exhumers are extremely vulnerable and lack the resilience to survive low-sec use.
For the purpose built low-sec mining ship I would make battlecruiser and battleship sized ships with exhumer-like cargo holds, their respective ship class' defensive abilities and able to mount strip miners. This would mean that even if they were called primary by an attacking force they would survive long enough for guards to actually react. Also with higher powergrid and CPU outputs it means they can actually mount defensive systems. For example:
Mole
Battlecruiser Skill Bonus:
3% bonus to strip miner cycle time per level
5% bonus to shield resists per level
Special Ability: Able to equip strip miner and ice harvester turrets.
Powergrid: 1200MW
CPU: 430TF
High Slots: 4
Med. Slots: 6
Low Slots: 5
Turret Hardpoints: 2
Launcher Hardpoints: 0
Cargo Capacity: 3000m3
Drone Capacity: 150m3 with 50mb bandwitdh
You end up with a strip miner platform that can actually tank longer than a wet paper bag. It would require a bit more than a T1 frigate to engage successfully if properly fitted and only provide the yield of a retriever. You would also end up with a platform more resilent to suicide attack in high sec.
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Xonk
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Posted - 2008.02.13 19:18:00 -
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Hmmm...
Did this thread die? lol. I Like all the ideas. If not some newer ships, how about some higher end mining lasers and ice harvesters...??
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Verys
The Black Ops
Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.13 22:32:00 -
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The mining sections needs some love seeing as most updates are orientated towards pvp atm and we all know pvp and the industry share a special bond.
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Xonk
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Posted - 2008.02.14 01:43:00 -
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I agree. The only thing I can do now is gain more industry skills, cap out my mining skills, etc. Let's start a petition for more mining ships! Yehaw!
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Elune Ferret
Gallente
Valley Forge
STELLAR LEGION
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Posted - 2008.02.14 14:26:00 -
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Edited by: Elune Ferret on 14/02/2008 14:28:00
I like the Idea of the MOLE ship, not that I have much trouble with the Hulk so far, and untill recently the Covetor.
But one thing that I deffently think is needed on the 3rd. barge is bigger Drone bays.
When I go mining I fill the bay with 4x 10m3's combat drones, 1 x 5m3's combat drones and a single Armor repair drone to fix the broken drones with.
I'd love to take 5 x 10m3's drones (think Hobgoblin is one of the types), 5 mining drones (5 x 5m3's) and a repair drone.
That's use current bandwidt, expand bay size by 80% from 50 to 80m3's. or 75m3's. Actually 55 would do wonders for me....
But I still Like the Mole idea.
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Xonk
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Posted - 2008.02.17 05:06:00 -
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Edited by: Xonk on 17/02/2008 05:06:37
Hear Hear!
I like all these ideas...but..is the DEV team looking at this? That is the 60,000 ISK Question...
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DitchDigger
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Posted - 2008.02.18 06:28:00 -
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I like the idea that someone else brought up elsewhere of a mining command ship. 4 High slots, but only 3 strip miners. It would require exhumers 5 and all the command ship and leadership skills presumably, and be able to fit one of those warfare link mining mods.
And yea, we definitely need a barge with more expansive drone capabilities.
And a 2nd and 3rd tier of mining drones as well.
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Eleana Tomelac
Gallente
Through the Looking Glass
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Posted - 2008.02.18 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: DitchDigger
I like the idea that someone else brought up elsewhere of a mining command ship. 4 High slots, but only 3 strip miners. It would require exhumers 5 and all the command ship and leadership skills presumably, and be able to fit one of those warfare link mining mods.
And yea, we definitely need a barge with more expansive drone capabilities.
And a 2nd and 3rd tier of mining drones as well.
An ORE command ship would be a good thing I guess.
Look how the current command ships works :
-Needs command ships skill
-Need racial ship skill at 5, a rank 5 skill
-Need some T2 cruiser skill at level IV
So, an ore fleet command ship, the kind of thing that would mount 3 links (with the 3% bonus) and equip some lasers could require this :
-Command ships I
-Mining barge V (it's the ore 'racial' cruiser skill)
-Exhumers IV (but it requires already the mining barge 5, thought it's inline with the number of ranks needed for a command ship)
3 links and 2 strips and it would be cool.
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