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Ronja	Posted - 2008.02.06 20:02:00 - [1] I don't normally go saying thank you for anything but DAAAAMN! CCP, finally made up to me for all the nerfs after releasing this uber ship. Missions are now are soo much more fun. Thanks! My setup: 4 tachs, 2 tractor beams, 1 salvage 2 cap recharge, 1 track comp, 1 web lar,heat sink, pds, 4 hardners 2xcapacitor circuits Lots of room to play with but this works pretty damn gooood.
Lithel Amarr The Soviet Galactic Union	Posted - 2008.02.06 21:29:00 - [2] Makes me jealous. After I finish training for Commandships, I'll have to start the road towards Marauders. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Leandro Salazar The Blackguard Wolves	Posted - 2008.02.06 21:32:00 - [3] If I was a Paladin, I would self destruct if people put less than 3 HS on me There is no 'n' in turret There is no 'r' in faction There is no 'a' in Scorpion There is no 'e' in Caldari There is no makeup in rogue drones
Mastin Dragonfly Absolutely No Retreat Synchr0nicity	Posted - 2008.02.06 21:41:00 - [4] Originally by: Leandro Salazar If I was a Paladin, I would self destruct if people put less than 3 HS on me I'd eject pilot and pod him/her.
Kruel Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2008.02.06 21:43:00 - [5] I'd use a Nightmare instead.
Wayward Hooligan Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.02.06 21:45:00 - [6] I think I'd prefer something like this: High: 4xMega Pulse II /w Amarr Navy Multi L 3xHeavy Unstable Energy Neut Mid: 1x100mn MWD II 1xHeavy Cap Booster II /w 800's 1xFaint Warp Disruptor 1xFleeting Web Low: 3xDark Blood Heat Sink 2xEANM II 2x1600mm RT Rigs: 2xAncilliary Current Router I Drones: 2xHeavy Neut 2xMed Neut 1xLight Neut Vulnerable to ECM but kills everything else. . .. WELP! .. .
Trevor Warps	Posted - 2008.02.06 21:55:00 - [7] Originally by: Wayward Hooligan I think I'd prefer something like this: So, i think you'd prefer pvp, and get podded >.<
Mjoelner1 Draco Industries Ltd	Posted - 2008.02.06 22:12:00 - [8] Love it aswell. My fit: 4 Faction Tachs, 2 tractors, 1 salvager 2 cap rechargeII, tracking comp and web 3 Ts Hs's, 3 hardeners and a TS LAR Aux nano pumpII and cccI Works like a charm and kills really fast... 0 pg left in that setup btw:)
Mr Reeth Aegis Militia	Posted - 2008.02.06 23:01:00 - [9] Is there any reason to fit a web on a PvE setup? I know it has a bonus but for anyting smaller than BCs my drones are good enough, and you don't need to web BCs or BSs.
zayanka	Posted - 2008.02.06 23:08:00 - [10] i dont understand why you like so much about this ship. Well it is better then apoc. But if you look closely at it, it is not that amazing tank: t2 armor rep is not enough at all, so realy you are looking at least at something like centus a-type large rep. Even with this rep and t2 auxilary nano pump and marauders at lvl 4 (i guess not many ppl will train marauders lvl5) this ship tanks accordingly to EFT only !!! 770 dps with omni tank (centus a type thermal, kinetic and explosive hardeners + true sansha eamn), which in terms of mission running isnt enough to tank difficult missions, like DED blockade. Fit second rep and you loose gank, cap becomes unstable....so tank isnt amazing Gank: good damage with megabeams (tachyons dont fit with deadspace armor reps), but soon some ships start orbiting you at 15-20k (cruisers and frigs) you domination web will not be able to handle then. And in minmatar missions they tend to orbit at this range. SO this ship is not that amazing. I also fly golem. Tanks non stop 1100 dps with omnitank (gist+crystal low grade), does almost 700dps with cruises...doesnt depend on range, damage type.
Kagura Nikon Minmatar Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.02.06 23:23:00 - [11] Originally by: zayanka i dont understand why you like so much about this ship. Well it is better then apoc. But if you look closely at it, it is not that amazing tank: t2 armor rep is not enough at all, so realy you are looking at least at something like centus a-type large rep. Even with this rep and t2 auxilary nano pump and marauders at lvl 4 (i guess not many ppl will train marauders lvl5) this ship tanks accordingly to EFT only !!! 770 dps with omni tank (centus a type thermal, kinetic and explosive hardeners + true sansha eamn), which in terms of mission running isnt enough to tank difficult missions, like DED blockade. Fit second rep and you loose gank, cap becomes unstable....so tank isnt amazing Gank: good damage with megabeams (tachyons dont fit with deadspace armor reps), but soon some ships start orbiting you at 15-20k (cruisers and frigs) you domination web will not be able to handle then. And in minmatar missions they tend to orbit at this range. SO this ship is not that amazing. I also fly golem. Tanks non stop 1100 dps with omnitank (gist+crystal low grade), does almost 700dps with cruises...doesnt depend on range, damage type. 700 dps with cruise? Unless you are using officer BCu or launchers this is not likely 4 Cruise II with faction missiles and 3 BCU 2 make rougly 540 dps. ------------------------------------------------- If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
WardogX Minmatar Outkasts	Posted - 2008.02.06 23:31:00 - [12] Paladin with good skills implants faction ammo and t2 guns.. faction or better heat sinks.. dmg rig...and drones... can pull off just over 1200 dps as well. Raven is not the only missions ship anymore.. used to kinda be thought of that way.. few people who owned nightmare and ran missions knew what they had on their hands. Now that marauders came out it just added. CNR, Golem, Kronos, Paladin, nightmare all when fitted properly along with good skills and implants... can do 1000 dps+ anything doing 1000+ dps (for their respective dmg types) is gonna go through rats quick. My pally setup is close to my kronos setup.. I use a oneiros on 4x large remote armor rep and boost (tracking speed, optimal range, target range) Paladin: Hi 4x Tachyon Beam II Mid 1x Best Painter, 3x Cap Recharge II Low 3 Amarr Navu Heat Sink, RCU II,2x EANM II, 1x LAR II Rig 1x CCC 1xEnergy Collision Accelerator Drones 5x Hammerhead II I only use this ship on mission where rats are weak to EM dmg. I use Kronos rest of the time... and use pally as a salvager between rounds. I experimented with using 1 less EANM or hardener (i play around with resist setups alot) and fitted with 1 more faction heat sink.. and mag stab on kornos side.. and I find I get hit a lil more then I like dmg wise to be comfortable.. even with crazy remote rep... I fit 1 dmg rig so I can save using a heatink on low slots to give me more options... so with rig and "4" heat sink.. its actually 5 heatsink... with rig andf 3 heatsink.. its actually 4 heatsinks. I dont like going lower then 4.. these things are built for dps and I like keeping dps high.
Jack Jombardo Amarr	Posted - 2008.02.07 01:15:00 - [13] Edited by: Jack Jombardo on 07/02/2008 01:16:46 Bought a far overpriced Amarr ship? Why not fitt it with expensive Amarr, Khanid equip ONLY? You are a mission runner anyway and might have lots of LP left. And buy the right IMPs too ;). [Paladin, New Setup 1] Amarr Navy Large Armor Repairer Amarr Navy Large Armor Repairer Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Amarr Navy Heat Sink Damage Control II Amarr Navy Capacitor Power Relay Khanid Navy Stasis Webifier Amarr Navy Heavy Capacitor Booster, Cap Booster 800 Amarr Navy Cap Recharger Amarr Navy Cap Recharger Amarr Navy Mega Pulse Laser, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Amarr Navy Mega Pulse Laser, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Amarr Navy Mega Pulse Laser, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Amarr Navy Mega Pulse Laser, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Small Tractor Beam I Small Tractor Beam I Salvager I Auxiliary Nano Pump II Nanobot Accelerator II Vespa II x5 Warrior II x5 one repper, no cap-booster needed = 651 defense two repper, cap-booster needed = 1302 defense Turrets + Drones = 836 DPS, alfa from turrets = 3515 Not enough DPS? remove one EANM and fitt a second A-HS. pur EFT-warrior, I never go out without a AB personal :) PS: doesn't requier very high skills. Even I could fitt it if I ever consider training for a Marauder
WardogX Minmatar Outkasts	Posted - 2008.02.07 03:47:00 - [14] Originally by: Jack Jombardo Edited by: Jack Jombardo on 07/02/2008 01:16:46 Bought a far overpriced Amarr ship? Why not fitt it with expensive Amarr, Khanid equip ONLY? You are a mission runner anyway and might have lots of LP left. And buy the right IMPs too ;). If your willing to spend cash its better to get best officer turrets over faction. Other wise you get more DPS using T2 turrets then the faction flavors.
Kadoes Khan	Posted - 2008.02.07 05:48:00 - [15] Quote: 700 dps with cruise? Unless you are using officer BCu or launchers this is not likely 4 Cruise II with faction missiles and 3 BCU 2 make rougly 540 dps. Probably 700 with drones, would be difficult to push cruises to 700 but with drones you can get over 800. -=^=- "Someday the world will recognize the genius in my insanity."
Xequecal	Posted - 2008.02.07 05:53:00 - [16] Originally by: WardogX Originally by: Jack Jombardo Edited by: Jack Jombardo on 07/02/2008 01:16:46 Bought a far overpriced Amarr ship? Why not fitt it with expensive Amarr, Khanid equip ONLY? You are a mission runner anyway and might have lots of LP left. And buy the right IMPs too ;). If your willing to spend cash its better to get best officer turrets over faction. Other wise you get more DPS using T2 turrets then the faction flavors. Faction guns use much less cap to fire, if you don't plan to use T2 ammo they are better. Still, I'd never use faction mega pulse, because Scorch makes those guns, but faction Tachyons are money since you never really need to fit non-faction ammo in them.
Mastin Dragonfly Absolutely No Retreat Synchr0nicity	Posted - 2008.02.07 05:59:00 - [17] Originally by: zayanka i dont understand why you like so much about this ship. Well it is better then apoc. But if you look closely at it, it is not that amazing tank: t2 armor rep is not enough at all, so realy you are looking at least at something like centus a-type large rep. Even with this rep and t2 auxilary nano pump and marauders at lvl 4 (i guess not many ppl will train marauders lvl5) this ship tanks accordingly to EFT only !!! 770 dps with omni tank (centus a type thermal, kinetic and explosive hardeners + true sansha eamn), which in terms of mission running isnt enough to tank difficult missions, like DED blockade. Fit second rep and you loose gank, cap becomes unstable....so tank isnt amazing Gank: good damage with megabeams (tachyons dont fit with deadspace armor reps), but soon some ships start orbiting you at 15-20k (cruisers and frigs) you domination web will not be able to handle then. And in minmatar missions they tend to orbit at this range. SO this ship is not that amazing. I also fly golem. Tanks non stop 1100 dps with omnitank (gist+crystal low grade), does almost 700dps with cruises...doesnt depend on range, damage type. EFT is not EVE, you don't need to tank 1100 dps continiously in any mission unless you screw up. I rather dish out 1100 dps which I do in my pulse Paladin.
Riho Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2008.02.07 07:34:00 - [18] Originally by: zayanka i dont understand why you like so much about this ship. Well it is better then apoc. But if you look closely at it, it is not that amazing tank: t2 armor rep is not enough at all, so realy you are looking at least at something like centus a-type large rep. Even with this rep and t2 auxilary nano pump and marauders at lvl 4 (i guess not many ppl will train marauders lvl5) this ship tanks accordingly to EFT only !!! 770 dps with omni tank (centus a type thermal, kinetic and explosive hardeners + true sansha eamn), which in terms of mission running isnt enough to tank difficult missions, like DED blockade. Fit second rep and you loose gank, cap becomes unstable....so tank isnt amazing Gank: good damage with megabeams (tachyons dont fit with deadspace armor reps), but soon some ships start orbiting you at 15-20k (cruisers and frigs) you domination web will not be able to handle then. And in minmatar missions they tend to orbit at this range. SO this ship is not that amazing. I also fly golem. Tanks non stop 1100 dps with omnitank (gist+crystal low grade), does almost 700dps with cruises...doesnt depend on range, damage type. eve is not eft.. and if you havent flown it or dont know how to fly i dont post. imo the paladin is one of the best amarr ships in game now :) for pve and for ppl who can afford... its a nice pvp ships allso. my mission fit on my alt: 4x tach t2, 3x random stuff (usually salvager, 2x tractor) 3x cap recharger t2, domination web 1x amarr navy rep, 2x amarr navy ean, dcu, 3x amarr navy hs t2 nano pump, t2 CCC drones for whatever mission im doing. marauders 4 gives me dps of around 950 and a EFT tank fo 500 dps.... what is enough as i can kill stuff so fast that the tank will not be a problem ever :) im thinking about going centus rep.. but i think i need a PG implant or something to fit it (if there is any) ---------------------------------- This is Me
Riho Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2008.02.07 07:35:00 - [19] Edited by: Riho on 07/02/2008 07:39:56 Originally by: Xequecal Originally by: WardogX Originally by: Jack Jombardo Edited by: Jack Jombardo on 07/02/2008 01:16:46 Bought a far overpriced Amarr ship? Why not fitt it with expensive Amarr, Khanid equip ONLY? You are a mission runner anyway and might have lots of LP left. And buy the right IMPs too ;). If your willing to spend cash its better to get best officer turrets over faction. Other wise you get more DPS using T2 turrets then the faction flavors. Faction guns use much less cap to fire, if you don't plan to use T2 ammo they are better. Still, I'd never use faction mega pulse, because Scorch makes those guns, but faction Tachyons are money since you never really need to fit non-faction ammo in them. hmmm... i should try this out tbh. as i prefer tachs.... ill think about faction tachs :) edit: i acctually checked this out.... faction tachs have a lowerd damage mod if you train tach spec over 3, i have it at 4 so quite a big difference. but faction tachs take ALOT less cap to use :) ---------------------------------- This is Me
Tenpun M	Posted - 2008.02.07 16:11:00 - [20] Edited by: Tenpun M on 07/02/2008 16:12:12 as a kronos pilot i'm v jealous of the paladin for 1 reason. MEGAPULSE! I bet 90% of missions would finish much faster with megapulse over tachs, they have the tracking to melt all cruisers as well as the BS(and we all know there's way more cruisers than BS). Sitting around waiting for drones to kill cruisers sucks.
Deva Blackfire D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.07 16:17:00 - [21] Originally by: Wayward Hooligan I think I'd prefer something like this: High: 4xMega Pulse II /w Amarr Navy Multi L 3xHeavy Unstable Energy Neut Mid: 1x100mn MWD II 1xHeavy Cap Booster II /w 800's 1xFaint Warp Disruptor 1xFleeting Web Low: 3xDark Blood Heat Sink 2xEANM II 2x1600mm RT Rigs: 2xAncilliary Current Router I Drones: 2xHeavy Neut 2xMed Neut 1xLight Neut Vulnerable to ECM but kills everything else. Id put normal plated gankgeddon vs it. Ganka gets more DPS and more armor (3x trimark vs 2x anc. current router? :S) + can fit injector to counter nossing. Tbh - im giving your setup around 1-1,5 minute near gankgeddon.
Mastin Dragonfly Absolutely No Retreat Synchr0nicity	Posted - 2008.02.07 16:31:00 - [22] Originally by: Tenpun M Edited by: Tenpun M on 07/02/2008 16:12:12 as a kronos pilot i'm v jealous of the paladin for 1 reason. MEGAPULSE! I bet 90% of missions would finish much faster with megapulse over tachs, they have the tracking to melt all cruisers as well as the BS(and we all know there's way more cruisers than BS). Sitting around waiting for drones to kill cruisers sucks. This is correct, I use mega pulse with scorch and two tracking computers for 95% of the missions, it's plain awesome.

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