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Lector Mobias
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Posted - 2004.03.29 18:28:00 -
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As just reported in the news, CONCORD's Inner Circle has condoned the use of Transcranial Microcontrollers. May I be one of the first to applaud this oft malrepresented peacekeeping organisation for supporting such new technological initiatives.
Of particular note is the explicit support of the Jovian Empire of this new technology, proving that former enemies can deal amicably despite the example the Minmatar Republic may give daily.
I look forward to the more wide-spread use of Transcranials throughout the Empire as a more cost-effective method to the traditional Slavers and Vitoc combination. --
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AsheRaven
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Posted - 2004.03.29 18:36:00 -
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It's long been known that COncord has been an ineffectial force, with ineffectual mindsets, and corrupted to the corp
This blessing stands for nothing but further proof that Concord is benefiting financially 9or in some other way) by these monstrous atrocities.
I am preparting a press public press release to be released to all news agecnies making my dead wife's autopsy findings public, so as to reveal the truth behind these monstrous devices
To hell withyou Dark Amarr, to hell with you all!! ---------------------------------
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Lorna Doone
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Posted - 2004.03.29 19:15:00 -
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Quote: After a long and heated debate the conclusion was not to do anything for the time being.
Gotta love beaurocracy 
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Ashka Neris
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Posted - 2004.03.29 19:32:00 -
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Edited by: Ashka Neris on 29/03/2004 19:32:54 Ain't it always the excuse?
Wont do anything...meaning they can't....
Cowards!
*Spits at the concord poster just outside her tempory quarters at Pator* ---------------------------
Proud to be half Brutor http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=69488&page=1R |

Doc Brown
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Posted - 2004.03.29 19:34:00 -
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Edited by: Doc Brown on 30/03/2004 06:47:43
Quote: From Lector Mobias:
Of particular note is the explicit support of the Jovian Empire of this new technology, proving that former enemies can deal amicably despite the example the Minmatar Republic may give daily.
I look forward to the more wide-spread use of Transcranials throughout the Empire as a more cost-effective method to the traditional Slavers and Vitoc combination.
I do not see any explicit support of this technology by the Jove. The only thing the Jove did was to cast the deciding vote to do nothing and keep an eye on the situation. I'm sure the Jove know something we don't.
Also, be careful what you wish for Lector. With evey benefit there is always a drawback. _________________________________________________
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Ardor
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Posted - 2004.03.29 19:49:00 -
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Unfortunatly you can't check faction standings anymore. Last time i've checked the standings the Khanid Kingdom and Concord gave each other a negative standing. And i like it this way because i don't like how Concord interferes in business and the way pilots of Concord behave.
Concord condoned the Transcranial Microcontrollers just because there are no valid arguments against them.
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Ashka Neris
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Posted - 2004.03.29 19:56:00 -
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Concord are inefectual cowards who do nothing but sit about gates all day, shooting the easy targets who make a simple mistake or try to dfend themselves.
They approved it becasue they're inefectaul, weak, useless and simply won't stand up to their convictions and do something about it.
Making a statment on the issue doesn't make them look as if they really do anything except make statements.
They should forget the whole policing thing and stick to what they're best at
writing speeches ---------------------------
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Dagoth IronJaw
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Posted - 2004.03.29 20:10:00 -
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Ahhh gotta love peacekeepers
A few billion ISK is enough to sway anyone's view i suppose
It is better to die on your feet than live on your knees.
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GoGo Yubari
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Posted - 2004.03.29 20:26:00 -
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If humanity is to grow and transcend its current state ... if people are to learn to take care of themselves ...
CONCORD must die.
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Vicarrah
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Posted - 2004.03.29 20:41:00 -
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Personally I thought it strange that the Jovians cast the deciding vote in favour. Given their usually strict neutral stance towards the general populace, and the abundance of other Jovian-based rumours, It certainly makes you wonder what the hell our friendly(?) neighborhood super-aliens are planning 
Vicarrah Tahiri Protector |

Doc Brown
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Posted - 2004.03.29 21:20:00 -
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Quote: From Vicarrah: <snip>.... It certainly makes you wonder what the hell our friendly(?) neighborhood super-aliens are planning
Not me. I belive I know what the Jovian's long term plan is with regards to these implants. _________________________________________________
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Ashka Neris
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Posted - 2004.03.29 21:25:00 -
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Geez,it;s very obvious
and Amarr had better take note of the Dark Amarr's major plots if they want to survive...
Unless they want another Sansha on their consience ---------------------------
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Pulgor
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Posted - 2004.03.29 22:19:00 -
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Just because Concord dosn't do what you tell them too for the reasons you think they should, dosn't make them ineffective.
I for one think Concord is doing a fine job. I have voiced my negitive opinion on these processors but I understand why they must stay neutral. They must see what develops before taking any action.
As for the Jove. I don't think anything sinister is happining there, most likly they want to see if history will repeat it self. They have an incredible thirst for knowledge. -----------------------------------
Pulgor --- In service to Saram. Visit the Ammatar channel ingame!
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haggis
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Posted - 2004.03.29 23:08:00 -
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I'd say only a couple of people who have posted in this thread read the article fully and understood it, and, naturally, also have a good understanding of the situation.
Firstly, concord did not condone nor condemn the use of them, they have decided to play it safe, a good idea, seeing as any decisions would be big, and big decisions need to be thought out carefully.
Secondly, the jovian representitive did not condone it, he voted for the same way that concord on average voted, and that was to be neutral on the topic.
Now lets take a look at the situation. Clearly, the jove do NOT agree with the amarr and transcrenial microcontrollers, but, do they disagree? Well, clearly they must see there are some things wrong with them, otherwise they would have agreed completely, and, staying neutral suggests that they want the situation monitored because they know fully well that it is a worrying development. But, not condemning them also suggests that they don't like the way slaves are being treated currently, and so realise that slaves are desperate to escape from the suffering.
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Vendris
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Posted - 2004.03.30 07:54:00 -
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Let's not forget that CONCORD and DED are multiracial, and neutral. They have to be, in order to do the job they do. Also, they must secure funding for the job they do. Were CONCORD to take sides on this matter (which, lets face it, is well out of the peacekeeping mandate anyway) they would lose all credibility as a neutral peacekeeping entity. They also would doubtless see a reduction in funding from the side they offend by their ruling.
So, with these moral and fiscal considerations in mind, could CONCORD really afford to take a more opinionated stance?
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AsheRaven
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Posted - 2004.03.30 08:53:00 -
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Edited by: AsheRaven on 30/03/2004 08:54:32 Ahem
one reminder that united all the races once
SANSHA KINGDOM!!! ---------------------------------
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GoGo Yubari
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Posted - 2004.03.30 10:08:00 -
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CONCORD is in no way neutral. The fact that there is a Gallante seat, Caldari seat, etc is a clear indication of this. It an organization that represents their views and tries to build understanding between these empires.
The galaxy does not begin and end with these four empires, however.
I say again, CONCORD must die.
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Vendris
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Posted - 2004.03.30 10:17:00 -
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I'm sorry, the fact that each race is represented equally within CONCORD is a clear indication that they're not neutral? In what way?
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Pulgor
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Posted - 2004.03.30 10:32:00 -
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He's trying to say that since small states like Syndicate etc... don't have seats in CONCORD, that this means CONCORD isn't neutral.
GoGo, CONCORD is as neutral as it gets. Small lawless states such as the Syndicate and the various pirate corporations havn't earned the right to have representation from CONCORD. Infact most of them are in violation of CONCORD law! CONCORD would have to arrest any representitve that any of these states tried to send.
Other states, such as my very own Ammatar, are represented vicarously through the larger empires (In this case Amarr) -----------------------------------
Pulgor --- In service to Saram. Visit the Ammatar channel ingame!
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GoGo Yubari
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Posted - 2004.03.30 17:54:00 -
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Edited by: GoGo Yubari on 30/03/2004 17:57:16 CONCORD slows down progress for one. Nor is CONCORD representative of the multitudes of sentient opinions in the galaxy.
It is created from the empires and therefore represents and serves them. It's very simple. What it considers to be lawful and right is only the result of compromises between its various constitutents.
CONCORD is a crutch. It's gotta go.
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