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HEY LISTEN
i swear this is true
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Posted - 2008.02.08 20:33:00 -
[61]
 Originally by: WowZilla
Originally by: Nick Curso
Originally by: WowZilla
Its a relevant topic for a relevant subject. If you have an opinion on the subject because your were there please post constructively.
relevant topic for a relevant subject 2 years ago maybe.
Well thats the point of the post. How does the RSF coalition compare to the LV coalition of 2 years ago?
Ive seen a lot of these maps and i suggest you get actual figures about who was on what side and how many numbers they had in their varios alliances and allies alliances.
Getting a picture of a old map that shows a lot of space held by bob+allies and claiming that things were all square or that it was a outnumbered blob fest is misleading as bob held a lot of space with considerably less members than most alliances.
As i checked the other day they had 1600 members when they killed ascn and it only just reciently that they have filled out. They had allies and pets back then but so did most alliances.
So like i said get the true figures to compare or you will just be considered another anti bob poster lookin to pitch a bit of propaganda.
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Bashiri
Point-Zero
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.08 20:45:00 -
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Hey you do know when the war started BoB was not alone right????? SO PLEASE STOP POSTING THE SAME MESSEGE OVER AGAIN.
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fugazii
Deep Space Productions
Fang Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.08 20:46:00 -
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well judging only by numbers and alliance count yes you have a valid point. however what you fail to put into the equation is the type of pilots each coalition has.
lets look at it this way:
if lv, kos, vi, chimp, and all the rest couldnt beat ra after a year+ long war.
and ra is now in a coalition with much higher caliber pilots (than the coalition ra fought) such as aaa, goons, tcf, mm, razor and all the rest and havent beat bob after a year+ long war. it just goes to show how strong bob really are.
not to mention ra lost their space relatively fast, and most of the war against the coalition was retaking what they lost. a year in and the coalition of ra and co is still only at the taking of bob space stage.
if we pretend the bob war will play out like ra's war then we can split it up into 2 parts: ra v coalition had part1 losing space part2 retaking it this took a year+. however bob v coalition is still in part1 losing their space part2 retaking it hasnt even begun after over a year of war.
really any way you look at it, the coalition bob is facing is much more formidable than what ra faced and is faring better than ra fared. however dont get me wrong im not talking down about ra, their saga is one of the greatest stories in eve, and i will always have a high amount of respect for what theyve been able to do after so many years. that said, theres no favorable comparison for ra's side between the 2 coalitions.
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Princess Jodi
Vendetta Underground
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2008.02.08 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: HEY LISTEN
Its the numbers dude, strength of Will is a joke ...
Did you even read my post? LV had the numbers, but not the willpower to take the losses.
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Danyael Tyren
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.08 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Jodi
Did you even read my post? LV had the numbers, but not the willpower to take the losses.
He's a troll, his posts can safely be ignored.
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Dwain Hicks
Purgatory explorations.
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Posted - 2008.02.08 21:33:00 -
[66]
Originally by: fugazii
not to mention ra lost their space relatively fast, and most of the war against the coalition was retaking what they lost. a year in and the coalition of ra and co is still only at the taking of bob space stage.
coalitions.
Dude RA fought back their space fast enough.
Bobbits were not alone when the war started, so keep posting in "BoB vs 99% of Eve style". Its really pathetic.
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Mei Han
Gallente
Mythos Corp
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.08 22:09:00 -
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Edited by: Mei Han on 08/02/2008 22:09:37
Well, to add my 2s to the argument. Someone have said it better. When to accomplish something you need 200,000 man hours what are you going to do? Have a man do it, or use your entire force?
The statement that all eve is needed to kil bob is false. And for those who say for 1vs1. First of all, this is not medival warfair. You do whatever you can to win with minimum losses and in the shortest amound of time because of public oppinion (in eve's case, pilots bored of lagfleet warfare and 23/7 operations).
I do not find it realistic to expect other alliances that have thier share of hatred towards bob to backdown for a fair fight.
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fugazii
Deep Space Productions
Fang Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.08 22:37:00 -
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Edited by: fugazii on 08/02/2008 22:39:14
Originally by: Dwain Hicks
Originally by: fugazii
not to mention ra lost their space relatively fast, and most of the war against the coalition was retaking what they lost. a year in and the coalition of ra and co is still only at the taking of bob space stage.
coalitions.
Dude RA fought back their space fast enough.
Bobbits were not alone when the war started, so keep posting in "BoB vs 99% of Eve style". Its really pathetic.
11-14-05
ra before war maps are missing for time of when lv is created, however it happens within the next 3 months
2-20-06
lv has been created, ra losing space
4-27-06
ra with no space
2-27-07
ra with help of friends owns all of ra's former space
your right, ra didn't lose their space incredibly fast and take a long time regaining it. /pimp slap
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Namelesz
Viscosity
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Posted - 2008.02.08 23:48:00 -
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Difference between the RSF and the LV Coalition :
I was in LV at the time and I am not in the RSF now. 
there you go.
[serious]I remember being in the US timezone fighting mostly just WarRages and Legion of xDeathx from RA and not seeing many LV allies fighting cept mostly -V- and some CHIMP, KOS were found in some gangs even though we sent invites alot. Not sure how the Euros were with allies. When we finished the stations in Cache and many corps left RA to form what is now TCF,AAA,etc, I advised upper leadership to move onto the mining POS'es RA had scattered that they were still making billions upon billions with . . . . but no, that didn't happen and the caps pulled out and now you saw how RA bounced back and are what I believe the reason why the tides of war shifted how they did.
I give all the credit to RA in their coalition.
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enderzone
Lai Dai Applied Technology
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Posted - 2008.02.09 01:03:00 -
[70]
Originally by: WowZilla
Edited by: WowZilla on 08/02/2008 09:59:45
Originally by: Nick Curso
*sigh
Now even im getting sick of all these crappy threads, and i usually love to read them for giggles, but they are just getting bad now. lol
Its a relevant topic for a relevant subject. If you have an opinion on the subject because your were there please post constructively.
whut, ar least he fights for them, whereas you just troll
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Salastil
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.09 01:16:00 -
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I wish you English folks would stop transcribing your accent into text. It makes it rather difficult to understand what you are saying. This entire thread is pretty dumb since RA is actually good at this game unlike BoB.
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Salastil
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.09 01:26:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Jodi
I'll try to be impartial on this point and agree that RA is a lot like LV at that time: There is a bit of vanity in the actions of RA which precludes any real reward for others that have fought with them. LV treated its allies with open distain, while RA seems to just ignore the contribution of lesser coalition members.
RA treats contributing members to a common goal with the utmost respect. If you're full of bloat and they spend more time with your diplomats getting chinese farmers out of their station systems than on combat ops you'll never see a RA person assist you. If you bring a decent amount to a consistent basis on non-selfish terms (fight for stations earmarked for other Alliances) RA would fight to the last man and then offer their space until your own was recaptured. KOS did nothing but hide in their space fill up on farmers and useless people then accept more space with minimal showing. Whereas AAA spent months with IAC duking it out in Querious and Catch.
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HEY LISTEN
i swear this is true
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Posted - 2008.02.09 03:18:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Princess Jodi
Originally by: HEY LISTEN
Its the numbers dude, strength of Will is a joke ...
Did you even read my post? LV had the numbers, but not the willpower to take the losses.
How do getting fake pixels on a screen fakely blown up a lot equate to will power?.
Now if you wanna say that they were not dumb enough to sit watching a frozen screen over and over every night for the rest of their eve life then id agree with you but will power has nothing to do with it as you will see.
Unless goons and the rest are gonna claim victory when bob losses their last station and goes home your gonna be chasing those guys around eve until the game is done and dusted. Camping npc stations, gates or even having to do empire war decs and blob safe space will be a real test of your so called will power.
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Sirius A
DarkStar 1
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.09 06:25:00 -
[74]
Gang bangs are more fun
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Elizabeth Fallbrook
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.09 06:26:00 -
[75]
Originally by: HEY LISTEN
Originally by: Princess Jodi
Originally by: HEY LISTEN
Its the numbers dude, strength of Will is a joke ...
Did you even read my post? LV had the numbers, but not the willpower to take the losses.
How do getting fake pixels on a screen fakely blown up a lot equate to will power?.
Now if you wanna say that they were not dumb enough to sit watching a frozen screen over and over every night for the rest of their eve life then id agree with you but will power has nothing to do with it as you will see.
Unless goons and the rest are gonna claim victory when bob losses their last station and goes home your gonna be chasing those guys around eve until the game is done and dusted. Camping npc stations, gates or even having to do empire war decs and blob safe space will be a real test of your so called will power.
hay, look who's getting worked up over a video game
take a chill pill, dude
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WowZilla
The Leeroy Jenkins Project
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Posted - 2008.02.09 08:21:00 -
[76]
Originally by: HEY LISTEN
Originally by: Princess Jodi
Originally by: HEY LISTEN
Its the numbers dude, strength of Will is a joke ...
Did you even read my post? LV had the numbers, but not the willpower to take the losses.
How do getting fake pixels on a screen fakely blown up a lot equate to will power?.
Now if you wanna say that they were not dumb enough to sit watching a frozen screen over and over every night for the rest of their eve life then id agree with you but will power has nothing to do with it as you will see.
Unless goons and the rest are gonna claim victory when bob losses their last station and goes home your gonna be chasing those guys around eve until the game is done and dusted. Camping npc stations, gates or even having to do empire war decs and blob safe space will be a real test of your so called will power.
this is true, if this conflict has shown us anything, it is that goons lack serious willpower in their intentions.
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HEY LISTEN
i swear this is true
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Posted - 2008.02.09 12:16:00 -
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Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 09/02/2008 12:18:29
Originally by: WowZilla
this is true, if this conflict has shown us anything, it is that goons lack serious willpower in their intentions.
Considering the utter failiures that occur when they have attempted any other type of game play in eve id say its a serious lack of ability to do anything else and the fact that taking space needs no ability at all apart from naps and numbers that attracts them to terratorial wars. Calling it determination is just a positive spin on the fact that they suck at anything else but eve mechanics and eve mechanics alone allows them to succeed at this and even then they need a huge ammount of help and are incapable of doing it solo.
Still it keeps the masses happy so im sure this why molle decided to allow it and plan it at the barbeque .
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Himo Amasacia
Minmatar
Fade to Black Inc
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.02.09 13:30:00 -
[78]
Last night I saw 5 BOB challenging 1 goonswarm member half their member age to a 5 on 1 fight to prove how great he was at PVP. Or how crappy he was if he lost. Their excuse was that, as they were "only" in fleet setups he would have the advantage. Oh BOB had like 110 out of the 120 in local.
5 on 1 is a good fight for BOB and what they look for. which is why they went up to 49 for the first time in 2 weeks becasue noone was there, and they wandered into fountain. While there was a fleet waiting for them in C3n for provide good fights.
Yeah...
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Tholarim
Amarr
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.09 17:16:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Himo Amasacia
Last night I saw 5 BOB challenging 1 goonswarm member half their member age to a 5 on 1 fight to prove how great he was at PVP. Or how crappy he was if he lost. Their excuse was that, as they were "only" in fleet setups he would have the advantage. Oh BOB had like 110 out of the 120 in local.
5 on 1 is a good fight for BOB and what they look for. which is why they went up to 49 for the first time in 2 weeks becasue noone was there, and they wandered into fountain. While there was a fleet waiting for them in C3n for provide good fights.
Yeah...
it's true, bob only ganks and sucks at pvp, you heard it here first!
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Wylker
Caldari
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.02.09 17:20:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: Himo Amasacia
Last night I saw 5 BOB challenging 1 goonswarm member half their member age to a 5 on 1 fight to prove how great he was at PVP. Or how crappy he was if he lost. Their excuse was that, as they were "only" in fleet setups he would have the advantage. Oh BOB had like 110 out of the 120 in local.
5 on 1 is a good fight for BOB and what they look for. which is why they went up to 49 for the first time in 2 weeks becasue noone was there, and they wandered into fountain. While there was a fleet waiting for them in C3n for provide good fights.
Yeah...
it's true, bob only ganks and sucks at pvp, you heard it here first!
Quoting win in a bottle.
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Defying
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Posted - 2008.02.09 21:48:00 -
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Edited by: Defying on 09/02/2008 21:52:36
Originally by: Nick Curso
*sigh
Now even im getting sick of all these crappy threads, and i usually love to read them for giggles, but they are just getting bad now. lol
tbh nick i was expecting it to say bob, was a small surprise at least 
tbh, i do think its a moot point, now im not a bob fan at all, infact i dislike em alot. but if you wish to compare the ra coalition of now to the lv coalition of then and see that ra went from having no stations what so ever and a few pos to back where they are today.
there is nothing to say that bob isnt capable of doing the same once delve falls.
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