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The C1eansing
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Posted - 2008.02.08 22:58:00 -
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This question has probably been asked many times and if it has been, please point me to those posts, but I am trying to decide which is the best PvE and PvP cruiser (Cause I want to do both). I have the requisite skills necessary and some more, but cannot decide. I have come close to selecting Rupture (Minmatar), but still need some more opinions. I have all the skills for Caldari and Minmatar Cruisers and a few left to do for Amarr and Galente Cruiser (yes I want to be good at it all :))
Thanks in advance for your advice.
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The C1eansing
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Posted - 2008.02.08 23:10:00 -
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Anyone? Please help!!!
Thanks
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Kirjava
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.02.08 23:11:00 -
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Caracal I should think is a safe allrounder.
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Cambarus
The Baros Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.02.08 23:11:00 -
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The fact of the matter is that there is no "best" pvp or pve ship, much less a ship that is best at both.
A blackbird, for example, is an exellent low-SP pvp ship, but a vexor with all its drones will mop the floor with one. Likewise a thorax will mop the floor with a vexor, if it gets close, whereas the vexor will win if it keeps a good distance between them.
Then the caracal can own either of these ships at great distances, which in turn can get owned by the blackbird etc.
Eve is not about what's best, but what's best at countering what.
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Sandeep
Raptus Regaliter
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.02.08 23:13:00 -
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There is no best for both pvp and pve and in all situations, and you should have known this fact by now.
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Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
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Posted - 2008.02.08 23:13:00 -
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Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 08/02/2008 23:14:21
If you're set on using T1 cruisers, use a faction cruiser. People will recommend all kinds of fancy, billion-isk setups for these but you can get away with T2. Hell I use non-faction T1 launchers on my Gila because of CPU issues and an isk shortage. If fun is more important than safety or efficiency you can fit any cruiser effectively for under 10 mil.
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Cambarus
The Baros Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.02.08 23:16:00 -
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If you're willing to spend some decent isk on a cruiser, I'd say go with the phantasm, 3 lasers that do the damage of 6, plus utility high slots make it a really fun ship to fly (and let's not forget that it can get wrecking hits of over 1000 with tech I fittings)
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The C1eansing
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Posted - 2008.02.08 23:17:00 -
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 Originally by: Sandeep
There is no best for both pvp and pve and in all situations, and you should have known this fact by now.
I know there is no best for both, but here is what I think.....doing all permutations and combinations of speed, dps, tanking, etc. there has got to be something that comes out on top. For example, it appears to me that Rupture is good at most things except maybe a little less tanking, but it maybe made up for by speed, etc. etc. I need to see enough people filling in their opinions since I value what they have to say, given some of them have played for a long time and have been through T1 cruisers....that's all.
Any discussion is much appreciated as it will clear the clouds for me.....
Thanks again.
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Cambarus
The Baros Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.02.08 23:25:00 -
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Again, there is no best, each cruiser has it's own little niche.
The rupture for example is an exellent gank ship, though I myself prefer the thorax for that role. However to properly use a gank ship you need to sacrifice your ability to tank, and to tank a ship you lose the gank factor you otherwise would have had. You can't have it both ways, there just is no ship that's great at everything (though I still reccomend the phantasm, an exellent cruiser if ever I saw one)
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ProjectSeven
Rulers Of Mankind
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Posted - 2008.02.08 23:33:00 -
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what race do you plan to fly? if its minmatar rupture is a little thicker then the stabber. the stabber is a little faster though. those are better for a solo pve/pvp then the rest of the minmatar cruisers.
The reason i say that is because the special bonuses on the rest are for mining, target painting, and shield transfers or something.
i figure your goin minmatar because, well we are pretty bad ass and have aviators. and you mentioned the rupture.
Though i still think in PVP the most useful cruiser is the blackbird because of the EW. Though you might find it hard to kill other guys solo with that and its not very useful in PVE
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Zeba
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.02.08 23:38:00 -
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Arbitrator will easily rat in lower quality 0.0 and still be a nice gang pvp ship especially if fitted for ewar. Not the best in class for one or the other but more than adequate to pull double duty and cheap as chips to boot.
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Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
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Posted - 2008.02.08 23:39:00 -
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Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 08/02/2008 23:39:48
Stabber is more than just a little faster than the Rupture. Of course with the Stabber your speed is your only real defense, although you can boost shield or armor resists a bit to increase your effective HP without increasing your signature radius, mass, or cap consumption.
Stabber will let you dictate most terms of a fight against the large majority of T1 cruisers. You'll have to watch out for people with webbing drones, and of course stay out of the parent ship's own webifier if it has one. The Stabber will also get you tactically prepared for using other ships that require a lot of manual navigation in PvP, like ceptors, dictors, and fast HACs.
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The C1eansing
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Posted - 2008.02.08 23:39:00 -
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Originally by: ProjectSeven
what race do you plan to fly? if its minmatar rupture is a little thicker then the stabber. the stabber is a little faster though. those are better for a solo pve/pvp then the rest of the minmatar cruisers.
The reason i say that is because the special bonuses on the rest are for mining, target painting, and shield transfers or something.
i figure your goin minmatar because, well we are pretty bad ass and have aviators. and you mentioned the rupture.
Though i still think in PVP the most useful cruiser is the blackbird because of the EW. Though you might find it hard to kill other guys solo with that and its not very useful in PVE
I am actually Caldari, but have trained in such a way that I can get the most out of both Caldari and Minimatar.
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ProjectSeven
Rulers Of Mankind
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Posted - 2008.02.08 23:56:00 -
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i would recommend sticking to a race for a while. when you get a bit more skill points your gunna be having a harder time when you move on to say battleship class ships. Caldari generally shields, drones, missiles, and hybrid turrets. Minmatar is usually projectiles, with a couple different ships that need a little missile and drone skill. its easy to get rank 1-4 of all of them but when you start looking for t2 equipment it becomes more of a challenge.
its not impossible just takes longer to get to a more effective ship.
and whoever posted above about the stabber is right, with shield extenders its less squishy but Ships and Modules forum is well... "that way ---->". when you find what you like check that forum for real setups or scrapheapchallenge, or battleclinic
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