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Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2008.02.12 16:18:00 - [1] Edited by: Xen Gin on 12/02/2008 16:18:23 Too bad the device works. In Llanrumney they reduced robberies and vandalism by 90% outside of the local shops, and now the local residents aren't afraid to go into the shops, because there aren't any gangs around. I might add, I can still here the sound and I'm 23, and it doesn't bother me.
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2008.02.12 16:18:00 - [2] Edited by: Xen Gin on 12/02/2008 16:18:23 Too bad the device works. In Llanrumney they reduced robberies and vandalism by 90% outside of the local shops, and now the local residents aren't afraid to go into the shops, because there aren't any gangs around. I might add, I can still here the sound and I'm 23, and it doesn't bother me.
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2008.02.12 16:39:00 - [3] Edited by: Xen Gin on 12/02/2008 16:39:03 Originally by: Kirjava It hurts like hell. For just the fun of it I go into the shops that have it on purpose, when the owners are perlexed I cam in because of the sound.... I say what sound? 2 of the shops on my high street have since ditched it's useage No it doesn't, Its an annoyance. It doesn't hurt. It's there to stop teens hanging out around shops. Also, a nice little weapon for those who put Gas containers in cars and set them alight. Because they look like a person in the car, firefighters have to check it out and are put at risk, would be great.
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2008.02.12 16:42:00 - [4] Originally by: Kirjava I have a few ear problems - must just be me then but I allways avoid noise to begin with. This is a reason I don't use headphones aswell Yeah, you probably need to get that seen too.
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2008.02.12 20:15:00 - [5] Originally by: Irias Salo Originally by: SoftRevolution Edited by: SoftRevolution on 12/02/2008 19:40:40 Why would anyone give a rats ass what teenagers think and feel? You don't vote. You don't pay taxes. You are dependants for the most part. Why should anyone care particularly shopkeepers? What rights do you imagine you have that you imagine are being violated here? Taxes at the age of 16 if we don't go onto futhur education, and at 18 we can vote and die for our country. Teenagers are the next generation, and thous of us who actually want to contribute to society are having a hard enough time as it is due to the general stereotype. I've lost count of the number of job application forms I've filled in over the last year only to be dismissed becuase I'm male and working class. Lets just hope my application into the army is succesful, at least they don't discriminate against the native people. And yes I am a teenager, 18 and proud of it. Cough Assuming you actually work Cough
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2008.02.12 21:04:00 - [6] Edited by: Xen Gin on 12/02/2008 21:06:29 I don't know what everyone is BSing about. If you've heard it, you know it doesn't hurt, its just annoying. About as annoying as the sound of university students from Southern California mind you but it doesn't damage or hurt. And its sounds like crickets chirping, as its not a constant sound.
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2008.02.12 22:28:00 - [7] Edited by: Xen Gin on 12/02/2008 22:28:05 Originally by: SoftRevolution Who's trolling? I just wish they'd invent one for the homeless as well. Maybe a noise at the exact resonant frequency of white lighting bottles and special brew cans? Or one that seems to inexplicably cause items of fake Burberry clothing to spontaneously combust! That would be cool!
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2008.02.12 22:53:00 - [8] Law abiding teenagers are at home doing homework and are not loitering around outside shops!
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2008.02.12 23:00:00 - [9] Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: Xen Gin Law abiding teenagers are at home doing homework and are not loitering around outside shops! Unless they're...you know...shopping. Damn, one tiny flaw in my logic, trust it to be you Tarminic! Curses!
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2008.02.12 23:05:00 - [10] Originally by: Havok Dryke Remind me to cancel my trip to the UK. This sort of countermeasure is discrimination, plain and simple. Blaming an entire demographic for the mistakes caused only by some individuals is how racism starts. Kinda sad to see older people openly discriminating against youths to make themselves feel better about themselves. At least teenagers haven't started any wars yet... Those zimmerframe wars were real deadly weren't they. Still at least we got to laugh at old people falling over!
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2008.02.13 01:12:00 - [11] Originally by: Brea Lafail Demonising youth? I see no possible way that this could spiral downwards. What a backwards little island y'all live on. Some punks hanging around outside your shop chasing away customers, call the cops. Thats what you pay them for. Playing a noise for the sole purpose of annoying someone is assault and/or harassment. They say this device doesn't hurt anyone, but neither does shoving someone, spitting in his face, and telling him to ** off. He doesn't need to go to the hospital, so how could it possibly be assault? I'd think the latter is clearly illegal, so why not the first? Isn't this thing essentially telling every single person under 25 "go ** them selves, 'cause you aint welcome here." LMAO. OK, lets keep calling the police like they've been doing since before the device? Because its obviously worked in the past! OMG, Is that scarecrow scaring away crows? Sue the scarecrow, sue, SUE!!! The crows have the right to feed you know!
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2008.02.13 01:26:00 - [12] Edited by: Xen Gin on 13/02/2008 01:28:50 Originally by: Brea Lafail Originally by: Xen Gin LMAO. OK, lets keep calling the police like they've been doing since before the device? Because its obviously worked in the past! And who's fault is that? The one innocent party is the law-abiding teens that are impacted by the police's incompetence and ineffectiveness of your legal system. Law-abiding teens walk into the shop, buy stuff, and walk out. Not hang around for 20 minutes casing the place, asking people to commit crimes to buy them cigs and drink. If you walk straight pass you barely even notice it, and that's even if its on for the 20 minutes in every hour.
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2008.02.13 04:25:00 - [13] Originally by: mamolian Edited by: mamolian on 13/02/2008 03:58:27 From reading some of the articles people posted on the first page there.. I'm getting the impression its not a noise you hear immediately? only upto 5 mins after your sitting within range of the device? If thats the case.. It should only affect crowds of kids hanging around public places.. Often where alot of the antisocial behavior occurs? heh If I had the cash I'd put one on the front of my house/business and if it kept crowed from hanging around I'd even consider it money well spent. So sick of hunting kids away from the front of the house.. Already had the car scratched.. front window broken.. Bloody stressful dealing with other peoples bastard kids.. They are ú500 a piece, and to put it in public you need permission from the council. But yeah, you don't hear it straight away, its when you start to rest, then it sort of ticks your ear drum.
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2008.02.13 12:56:00 - [14] Originally by: Nuala Reece Originally by: Riethe Yep, I agree. There's definitely not any evidence showing that violent crimes are committed primarily by teenagers. Good job doing your research. /me taps his sarcasm detector to see if it's working right. It looked like you were being sarcastic here, until I followed your link to see that it clearly shows statistics that people aged 12-24 are by far more likely to be the victims of crime not the perpetrators Good job on your reading It's nice to see people kicking up a fuss about this device though, how it's lasted so long without people screaming that it may well breach several laws (Human Rights Act, Children Act, Age Discrimination Act) I don't understand. I admit I haven't seen any statistics either way about whether these devices actually reduce anti-social behaviour among under 25's. I have seen statistics though showing that building more youth clubs (you know, places for young people to gather and socialize safely) does reduce so called 'youth crimes' like vandalism, loitering, under age drinking etc etc quite significantly. I guess it's too much to ask though that the adults in communities put some effort into demanding services for their own young people, when they can just label them as trouble-makers and stick up what amounts to a hi-tech scarecrow on their walls instead. The shop keep can demand all he wants, but if the council cant afford it. Seriously, here's the deal, in Wales, every council by 2010 has to update every council owned house with new bathrooms, kitchens and insulation around the house to bring it in line with European regulations or face massive fines. When this is done, Cardiff City Council will be the only council in Wales that isn't broke. I think funding more youth initiatives is going to be difficult. Also the inventor rigorously consented with lawyers to make sure it didn't break any law. Which it currently doesn't, and the UK government has said it has no intentions on banning them.

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