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Stele Toque
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.02.12 18:15:00 -
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how does one secure safe passage (as best as is possible) in 0.0 space. i realize pirate territory is just that and that you're on your own out there. still, you would hope that there is a pirate corp or two who will not shoot first. if approached in the right way.
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Ki An
Gallente
Filiolus Of Bellum
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Posted - 2008.02.12 18:19:00 -
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It's fairly easy. If you want safe passage into and through 0.0, just pass me 500 mil. That buys you and your corp 1 week of blue standings from me. If you want permanent standings, the price is 2 bil. I will also accept a fitted carrier contracted to me.
This buys you safe passage through all 0.0.
Filiolus of Bellum is recruiting
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Andrest Disch
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.02.12 18:19:00 -
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0.0? Not really much options, other than hope you don't run itno a bubble camp at a gate.
Aslong as you keep moving, and stay in a fastish ship.. you should be alright.
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Ishido Hideyori
No Fear Buccaneers
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Posted - 2008.02.12 18:22:00 -
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Odds are 0.0 corps wont let you through or let you come in and rat just because you are a nice, polite noobie. You can either expect to have to pay them a lot of money or get blown up... or both... The sensible option is to not ask anyone's permission and just get an alt and go do your thing with your alt scouting for you, its the most fun, and probably the most profitable.
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Robis Beckomi
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Posted - 2008.02.12 18:46:00 -
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ooo tell you what add Robis Doyal as a buddy in-game that my deactive charecter i have every 0.0 gate maped and safe zones in 2 regions i would sell them but seeing as how the alliances that gave them to me screwed me over and left me for dead in a ibis with 1isk.... i think i'll givem freely
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Krasnij Okjabre
Caldari
Havoc Inc
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.02.12 18:52:00 -
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 Originally by: Robis Beckomi
ooo tell you what add Robis Doyal as a buddy in-game that my deactive charecter i have every 0.0 gate maped and safe zones in 2 regions i would sell them but seeing as how the alliances that gave them to me screwed me over and left me for dead in a ibis with 1isk.... i think i'll givem freely
What? 
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Stele Toque
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.02.12 19:10:00 -
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knew i left something out. to make things crystal. i'm not interested in 0.0 space ratting when I can do it safely in empire. simply put, i'm only interested in exploring for new systems. can't do that in empire cuz it's surrounded by 0.0.
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Andrest Disch
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.02.12 19:30:00 -
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Originally by: Stele Toque
knew i left something out. to make things crystal. i'm not interested in 0.0 space ratting when I can do it safely in empire. simply put, i'm only interested in exploring for new systems. can't do that in empire cuz it's surrounded by 0.0.
Do you mean.. low sec? (0.4->0.1 systems)
If so, then it's pretty safe aslong as you check the map for how many kills, and if youy fit warp core stabilisers..
Just don't auto pilot.
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.02.12 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: Andrest Disch
Originally by: Stele Toque
knew i left something out. to make things crystal. i'm not interested in 0.0 space ratting when I can do it safely in empire. simply put, i'm only interested in exploring for new systems. can't do that in empire cuz it's surrounded by 0.0.
Do you mean.. low sec? (0.4->0.1 systems)
If so, then it's pretty safe aslong as you check the map for how many kills, and if youy fit warp core stabilisers..
Just don't auto pilot.
Yes, fit stabs. My triple sensor boosted + remote boosted gate camp onyx will love you long time 
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Originally by: Praxis1452
you win eve
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Andrest Disch
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.02.12 19:44:00 -
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Originally by: techzer0
Originally by: Andrest Disch
Originally by: Stele Toque
knew i left something out. to make things crystal. i'm not interested in 0.0 space ratting when I can do it safely in empire. simply put, i'm only interested in exploring for new systems. can't do that in empire cuz it's surrounded by 0.0.
Do you mean.. low sec? (0.4->0.1 systems)
If so, then it's pretty safe aslong as you check the map for how many kills, and if youy fit warp core stabilisers..
Just don't auto pilot.
Yes, fit stabs. My triple sensor boosted + remote boosted gate camp onyx will love you long time
Yea, because he's really going to run into your gatecamp if he keeps an eye on the map statistics. 
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.02.12 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: Andrest Disch
Yea, because he's really going to run into your gatecamp if he keeps an eye on the map statistics.
Luckily my system is bugged 90% of the time, and only show 1-2 kills/podkills 
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Originally by: Praxis1452
you win eve
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Andrest Disch
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.02.12 20:28:00 -
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Edited by: Andrest Disch on 12/02/2008 20:27:56
Originally by: techzer0
Originally by: Andrest Disch
Yea, because he's really going to run into your gatecamp if he keeps an eye on the map statistics.
Luckily my system is bugged 90% of the time, and only show 1-2 kills/podkills
Then we're all doomed.
Can you tell me your system, so I can avoid it? Pwetty pwease.
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Stele Toque
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.02.12 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: Andrest Disch
Then we're all doomed.
Can you tell me your system, so I can avoid it? Pwetty pwease.
You can use the Cloak/MWD trick that has the carebare pirates all wadded up.
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.02.12 20:43:00 -
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Originally by: Stele Toque
Originally by: Andrest Disch
Then we're all doomed.
Can you tell me your system, so I can avoid it? Pwetty pwease.
You can use the Cloak/MWD trick that has the carebare pirates all wadded up.
That does suck tbh, still haven't seen it used effectively... but I don't really want to. 
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Originally by: Praxis1452
you win eve
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.12 21:35:00 -
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Have 1 T1 fast frigate on the gate. Not to aggro at all because the sentries will apha strike it to hell, but if you motor straight at a newly jumped in cloaker you'll close the 15km in about 3 seconds and decloak the little carebear, then you tackle him and help yourself to all the stuff that falls out 
Originally by: Avaricia
look a goon lol
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Stele Toque
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.02.12 21:47:00 -
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Pete Higgs
Celestial Janissaries
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.12 22:27:00 -
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Edited by: Pete Higgs on 12/02/2008 22:27:04
Thread for MWD/cloak trick is thataway <----
Anyway, if it's pure exploration and travel you are after, check out this thread:
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=632296
This guy Jeran visited every single 0.0 system using a covert ops frigate, and it seems he only died a few times to bubble camps. It's a cool story, sometimes he chatted with the locals, other times he ran, but he never had to get standings with the locals in order to sneak through. If you wanted to hang out in someone else's space and chill without getting shot at, you could try negotiating standings (which functions as safe passage) for yourself beforehand. This will be very difficult and expensive, if not impossible with most alliances. I know several that flatly refuse standings to small or one man corporations, unless they have been personal friends for some time.
As for regions controlled by entities who do not "shoot first", as far as I know Providence is the only one. CVA, Paxton, Sylph and our allies will not shoot you as long as you come in peace and shoot only in self defense. Many others who you may run into in Providence will shoot you, but it's 0.0, you takes your chances, etc. For a small (automatic) fee you may dock at any station in Providence as well. I'll be sure to say hello if I see you in space.
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