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Conspectus	Posted - 2008.02.13 11:21:00 - [1] Hi I've been wondering what's it like to be in a mercenary corporation. I imagine it's pretty much like being in a pirate corp. War dec (the customer pays for the war dec costs?), gang up, hunt. I've thought of maybe joining one in the future, when I have more spare time and there's a couple of question I'd like to ask: - What kind of things should I look out for or take into consideration when looking to join a merc corp? - Hows the security hit? Probably low since you wardec the targets, right? - What 'level' are most fights on? I guess most merc corps don't fly anything bigger than BS's right? - Are there any merc corps that focus on fighting in highsec? Like hunting for ore thiefs or blocking trade hubs? - What's the deal with 'bounty' hunting players? I've seen the bounty tab and the 'most wanted' players and I wonder if there are actually people out there who go out looking for players with big bounties on their heads. How the hell do you find one guy in Eve, and when you kill him, is the bounty payed in a similar way as if you'd kill a belt rat? - What made you become a merc and what do you like about it? (compared to regular pirating etc...)
Alekseyev Karrde Noir.	Posted - 2008.02.13 12:37:00 - [2] -Take into consideration their reputation. If they have one, make sure it's good. If they dont, it's nescesarily a bad thing but they should have a contract history you could check up on fairly easily. Look at killboards, look at recruitment threads and if people outside the corp are posting in support, talk to their CEOs or representatives. Also take into account your own skill level and self sufficiency, after all once you get in you want to be able to thrive. -Some corps only do war decs, some do special hybrid contracts which might impact your sec. But in general it's not too bad and you can easily be a merc for several months and never go into the negatives. -Depends on the corp, and even the situation. The smaller the merc and the bigger the target gang=the less likly they will use easily ganked ships like BS. -To get the bounty you have to pod the player, and because of the difficulty you describe it's not a very time efficient career path. -I became a merc for three reasons. One is I wanted to prove to myself i could take my pvp to the next level and die less while killing more in worse situations. The second is I wanted to do so while making money so i didnt have to NPC grind as much. Lastly I wanted to see a bit more of the galaxy, and being a merc has really reminded me that EVE is more than the 0.0 Great Game, it's a rich and unfolding tapestry of stories and being a merc lets you peek in and be a part of alot of it. Hope that helps, and [shameless plug] yes I'm hiring.
Gaven Blands	Posted - 2008.02.13 14:54:00 - [3] There's more to life than Pirating and Mercing. There's also the running of Protection Rackets to consider... plenty of Gangster Corps to consider. Sure beats having to say YARRR! all the time, or having to go every other post. And sure beats having to talk to brand new alts about their problems. People have way too high an opinion of mercs. The vast majority suck. There's always going to be Big Fish, but for every big fish, there is a dozen minnows and wannabe corps. They don't usually last long past the first bloody good hiding. They generally end up -10 in lowsec as blobbing gates was the only thing they enjoyed any success with anyway, and they find they they actually need those Capital drops to get by now... can't handle it in highsec any more... Respect the good ones, but don't get sucked in by chump corps. I've heard R.E.P.O. have a pretty tough and therefore worthwhile entry program, if I was determined to be a Merc, I'd start there. But I'm not. I'm a thug, that is all. -- And with this post, I scent this thread. Mitnal will be along shortly. Modbutton in one hand, tissue in the other.
Conspectus	Posted - 2008.02.13 15:04:00 - [4] Oh? Tell me more about that entry programme.
Elles D Caldari Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.02.13 15:20:00 - [5] Ugh. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Dragos Mrs Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.02.13 15:37:00 - [6] hmm. what it's like being in a merc corp. well. 10% of the time it's some fun fights and blobs to bust and just general combat. sometimes some pos combat. the rest of the time, it's station or system camping war targets talking trash from a station dock :D it can be really fun, but it can be really boring.
Poreuomai Minmatar Naval Protection Corp Combined Planetary Union	Posted - 2008.02.13 16:02:00 - [7] Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde I became a merc for three reasons. One is I wanted to prove to myself i could take my pvp to the next level and die less while killing more in worse situations. The second is I wanted to do so while making money so i didnt have to NPC grind as much. Lastly I wanted to see a bit more of the galaxy, and being a merc has really reminded me that EVE is more than the 0.0 Great Game, it's a rich and unfolding tapestry of stories and being a merc lets you peek in and be a part of alot of it. That does sound like an interesting option for experienced players.
Avan Strega Thunderstruck.	Posted - 2008.02.13 16:19:00 - [8] Originally by: Conspectus - What kind of things should I look out for or take into consideration when looking to join a merc corp? high level of activity. this is the number one thing imo. Mercs are being paid to do a job. If the corp is unable to do it's job due to not having enough people logging on, then it fails. Not to mention it's boring if you're the one person that logs on every night, and are unable to do much. Reputation is a good indicator, if a merc corp seems to be spoken about in good regard on the forums, they are clearly good at their job. However these corps are likely to be harder to get into. Also depends what you want to do. There are a large range or merc corps, some do 0.0 fleet ops with capital ships and supercapitals (like MC) while others concentrate on roaming gangs (REPO or OMNOR for example). Check the killboard of the corp or alliance you're interested in. This will give you a good idea of what sort of gangs they fly in, what sort of fights they get into, and their general activity level. Originally by: Conspectus Hows the security hit? Probably low since you wardec the targets, right? Either wardec or it will be a 0.0 operation, so security status won't be affected by your work. Some merc corps allow piracy on the side, some expressly forbid it (e.g. KIA) Originally by: Conspectus What 'level' are most fights on? I guess most merc corps don't fly anything bigger than BS's right? As I said before, depends entirely on the merc outfit. And on the contract. Most merc corps in eve are of the smaller variety, and don't have the capability to field capitals. Small fast-moving gangs feature a lot in merc work, tech2 cruisers and the like. Originally by: Conspectus Are there any merc corps that focus on fighting in highsec? Like hunting for ore thiefs or blocking trade hubs? Most smaller merc corps tend to operate almost exclusively in highsec, a lot of the contracts a small merc corp will get are things like dealing with people who are harassing industrialists, etc. Originally by: Conspectus What's the deal with 'bounty' hunting players? I've seen the bounty tab and the 'most wanted' players and I wonder if there are actually people out there who go out looking for players with big bounties on their heads. How the hell do you find one guy in Eve, and when you kill him, is the bounty payed in a similar way as if you'd kill a belt rat? The bounty system is fundamentally broken. It's really not a reasonable use of time and resources to go hunting for one person just for their bounty, especially as you have to pod them to collect. Sometimes you might pod someone with a bounty just by coincidence, in which case it's a nice bonus. And yeah the bounty just appears in your wallet as it does from NPCs. Originally by: Conspectus What made you become a merc and what do you like about it? (compared to regular pirating etc...) I've been in a small independent merc corp and in a large merc alliance. I originally was attracted to it for the non-territorial combat, small gang style pvp, but with more of a focus and purpose than piracy. However I'm no longer a merc as it's a bit restrictive. Especially when your alliance gets involved in a territorial POS war Last but not least, you really need a good bit of pvp experience to succeed as a merc, you're usually fighting against other competent pvpers, often outnumbered. Hope that helps.
Zhang Ramses Chaos From Order	Posted - 2008.02.13 16:31:00 - [9] Above all else, merc work is only as fun as your contract. Make sure the corp is a good fit for you. Make sure you understand the type of work they do, and that you're ok with it. Some mercs infiltrate, lie, harass, etc, or whatever the client wants. There shouldn't be a security hit if its highsec merc work. I guess in lowsec you can have "collaterals," but thats the exception more than the rule. Most fights are on the "level" appropriate for the contract. If a client wants a corp's morale destroyed, it's battleship blob time. If they want to frighten solo miners or haulers, something faster might be appropriate. Many merc corps (like mine) focus on highsec work. It's just cleaner: you don't have to worry about neutral parties cyno'ing in a fleet of capital ships while you're taking down a POS. I don't think anyone does bounty hunting. It might be ok for a solo player to do, but it would be a waste for a group of people to hunt down one single guy in the hopes to pod them for a bounty. Merc work shouldn't be compared to piracy, IMHO. Mercenary work is an exercise in discipline: we do what the client wants, no matter what. Piracy is all about violence against all comers. And no, we're not recruiting.
Gallant Nose Thunderstruck.	Posted - 2008.02.13 19:20:00 - [10] Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde Take into consideration their reputation. If they have one, make sure it's good. If they dont, it's nescesarily a bad thing but they should have a contract history you could check up on fairly easily. Look at killboards, look at recruitment threads and if people outside the corp are posting in support, talk to their CEOs or representatives. Also take into account your own skill level and self sufficiency, after all once you get in you want to be able to thrive. So basically, don't join Noir. vOv
Julius Romanus Blood Corsair's Blood Blind	Posted - 2008.02.13 19:30:00 - [11] Originally by: Dragos Mrs hmm. what it's like being in a merc corp. well. 10% of the time it's some fun fights and blobs to bust and just general combat. sometimes some pos combat. the rest of the time, it's station or system camping war targets talking trash from a station dock :D it can be really fun, but it can be really boring. This
TheMantisCH Minmatar Trinity Nova	Posted - 2008.02.13 20:20:00 - [12] Quote: - What kind of things should I look out for or take into consideration when looking to join a merc corp? How regularly they get contracts, Killboard is a good source for this, if they get regular contracts it shows that generally they are pretty good and that it wont always be boring. Quote: - Hows the security hit? Probably low since you wardec the targets, right? A merc corp shouldnt really be getting any sec hits. Quote: - What 'level' are most fights on? I guess most merc corps don't fly anything bigger than BS's right? A large amount of time is spent in small ships, ceptors, dictors, HAC's, Recon's as they are better for dodging camps aswell as tackling targets. Theres been plenty of times when we've been in BS gangs though or had to bring out the capitals for POS jobs. Quote: - What made you become a merc and what do you like about it? (compared to regular pirating etc...) Number of reasons really, the main ones being no issues with sec status and there seems to be more of a purpose than empire wars or pirating. Dragos Mrs is pretty close to the mark though tbh. - Mantis Trinity Nova Mercenary Services:- Latest Contract Forums
Vandamsel Gallente Repo Industries R.E.P.O.	Posted - 2008.02.14 09:08:00 - [13] to answer the OP, its awesome , although probably not for everyone *REPO AND PROUD OF IT*
Viqer Fell Minmatar Trinity Nova	Posted - 2008.02.14 13:44:00 - [14] Indeed, it generally is a huge amount of fun. I guess that's why I'm still doing it after so long. As the guys have said there can be long periods of crap whilst you camp people and hunt people but the fights do tend to be fun when they happen. Plus it's nice to fight for a reason beyond just getting a fight. Trinity Nova Mercenary Services Web Site - Nominated for the 2008 E-ON Magazine Awards
Requiescat True Foundation R.E.P.O.	Posted - 2008.02.14 13:50:00 - [15] Originally by: Gallant Nose So basically, don't join Noir. vOv /me Z-snaps roast!
mikeh24 Exa Utopia Exa Nation	Posted - 2008.02.14 16:36:00 - [16] Quote: Originally by: Gallant Nose -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So basically, don't join Noir. vOv -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /me Z-snaps roast! Why not join Noir, they have better kb stats vs exa than R.E.P.O. does
Gaven Blands	Posted - 2008.02.14 17:40:00 - [17] Edited by: Gaven Blands on 14/02/2008 17:42:49 Edited by: Gaven Blands on 14/02/2008 17:39:52 Originally by: mikeh24 Why not join Noir, they have better kb stats vs exa than R.E.P.O. does Lies, damm lies, and statistics. If R.E.P.O dec'd me, they wouldn't get a {real} kill either, because we know to stay the **** out of their way. {unless we're in a t1 unnamed blob} If Noir dec me, they get punched in the face, or we do. Hence the statistical anomaly you describe. -- And with this post, I scent this thread. Mitnal will be along shortly. Modbutton in one hand, tissue in the other.
PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik Gallente MASS Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service	Posted - 2008.02.14 18:04:00 - [18] Originally by: Dragos Mrs hmm. what it's like being in a merc corp. well. 10% of the time it's some fun fights and blobs to bust and just general combat. sometimes some pos combat. the rest of the time, it's station or system camping war targets talking trash from a station dock :D it can be really fun, but it can be really boring. yep, this is pretty much the reality. Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde -I became a merc for three reasons. One is I wanted to prove to myself i could take my pvp to the next level and die less while killing more in worse situations. The second is I wanted to do so while making money so i didnt have to NPC grind as much. Lastly I wanted to see a bit more of the galaxy, and being a merc has really reminded me that EVE is more than the 0.0 Great Game, it's a rich and unfolding tapestry of stories and being a merc lets you peek in and be a part of alot of it. Hope that helps, and [shameless plug] yes I'm hiring. Probably a little romantic, but considering its Valentines day ill allow it :). It is true that its a different path to the world of 0.0 alliance warfare, but it certainly has its own set of failings. I was in repo for a little while and although personally experimenting into mercing wasnt really my cup of poison I would definitely recommend them as a possible corp to go with. Got a mate in the Royal Hiigaran Navy who is quite an experienced pvp who says they arent too bad either. Like someone else said, its not for everyone but try it you may be able to stand the frustration of station camps etc. BTW repo has a pay-per-kill policy on many contracts as well, but dont expect that to do more than suppliment income- you will still need another source. Peace WithinSo if the theory of relativity is true, shouldn't i arrive at my destination before i warped in the first place? Neon GhostYou do, but this is compensated for by lag
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova	Posted - 2008.02.14 20:08:00 - [19] To be a mercenary is basically an exercise to your patience. However doesn't matter how much time you wasted on a mark, if in the end you can close up the contract knowing you've done your best and the client appreciated your work. do keep in mind the following however, that your are not a rank-and-file trooper. Your major role is disruption. You are pretty much there to annoy or disrupt the life of your mark to the maximum. And that's why that I say that it's an exercise of your patience. A wartarget that can't do nothing because of you is as good as a wartarget killed in action. --- planetary interaction idea!
Kyra Felann Gallente Noir.	Posted - 2008.02.14 21:44:00 - [20] Originally by: mikeh24 Quote: Originally by: Gallant Nose -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So basically, don't join Noir. vOv -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /me Z-snaps roast! Why not join Noir, they have better kb stats vs exa than R.E.P.O. does lol
Alekseyev Karrde Noir.	Posted - 2008.02.14 21:48:00 - [21] Originally by: Grimpak To be a mercenary is basically an exercise to your patience. However doesn't matter how much time you wasted on a mark, if in the end you can close up the contract knowing you've done your best and the client appreciated your work. do keep in mind the following however, that your are not a rank-and-file trooper. Your major role is disruption. You are pretty much there to annoy or disrupt the life of your mark to the maximum. And that's why that I say that it's an exercise of your patience. A wartarget that can't do nothing because of you is as good as a wartarget killed in action. This is an excellent point. It's really hard to quantify what you do beyond what shows up on your killboard, but more often than not harassing an enemy to the point where they are completly shut down by a small force is very desirable to employers. Heck, it might even be explictly asked for. If my little teeny crew can keep a group many times our size either stuck looking at the inside of a station or focused on fruitlessly chasing us down, it might not result in many kills but the frustration level is pricless. So it does require a great deal of personal discipline to know that while sitting outside that station or at that gate might be boring as hell for 90% of the time you're there, there's a bigger picture and you're doing the job you were paid to do.

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