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Hera Chawla
Imperial Guardians The Aurora Shadow
3
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Posted - 2012.02.16 05:21:00 -
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Alright, I've been in paragon soul for about 3 days now. Throughout these days I've seen Obvious bots be Obvious, and I don't know how much is being done about it.
In 3 SEPARATE systems, I've found 5 pilots in each, with the exact same setup in each, 4 Drakes, and a noctis; WITH THE EXACT SAME PoS LAYOUT AND IN THE SAME CORP.
If this isn't obvious botting I don't know what is. and I'm doing everything I can to stop it. Even managed to kill one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc2vt_t53Us&context=C3c7955aADOEgsToPDskJKjEqMpEUgxmTkd2qZvzAM
Is CCP doing everything within it's power to stop bots? |

Kane Hart
Sanitized Souls
0
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Posted - 2012.02.16 05:45:00 -
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Hera Chawla wrote:Alright, I've been in paragon soul for about 3 days now. Throughout these days I've seen Obvious bots be Obvious, and I don't know how much is being done about it. In 3 SEPARATE systems, I've found 5 pilots in each, with the exact same setup in each, 4 Drakes, and a noctis; WITH THE EXACT SAME PoS LAYOUT AND IN THE SAME CORP. If this isn't obvious botting I don't know what is. and I'm doing everything I can to stop it. Even managed to kill one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc2vt_t53Us&context=C3c7955aADOEgsToPDskJKjEqMpEUgxmTkd2qZvzAMIs CCP doing everything within it's power to stop bots? No but they will prob spend more time trying take your video down lmao. |

Endeavour Starfleet
639
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Posted - 2012.02.16 06:09:00 -
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Did you report them?
Edit: Watched the video. Nice kills but you need to report said bots to get them out of the game. |

Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
162
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Posted - 2012.02.16 08:38:00 -
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Actually, no. Reporting them doesn't do anything.
Been reporting the same mining bots for 3 months now, repeatedly, every time I see them in local. Nothing.
The 'report bot' button is likely just there to make people feel like they've done something but leads nowhere.
It becomes obvious when you spend weeks ganking the same bots over and over for a period of months. |

Ptraci
StoneWall Metals Productions Bloodbound.
329
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Posted - 2012.02.16 08:53:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:Actually, no. Reporting them doesn't do anything.
Been reporting the same mining bots for 3 months now, repeatedly, every time I see them in local. Nothing.
Did you ever stop to think that perhaps they are still there because they are NOT bots?
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Cajunspitfire
CAJUN BAYOU INC. Opprimo Vox
3
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Posted - 2012.02.16 08:58:00 -
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Ptraci wrote:Herr Wilkus wrote:Actually, no. Reporting them doesn't do anything.
Been reporting the same mining bots for 3 months now, repeatedly, every time I see them in local. Nothing.
Did you ever stop to think that perhaps they are still there because they are NOT bots?
No, self preservation and common sense dictates that if you keep getting ganked, Move to another system. I fully support the Goon-a-gedden that will rid high sec of bots. At least make ice mining more profitable for builders.
Vote for Mittens for CSM, He is sexy like that.. |

Tore Vest
222
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Posted - 2012.02.16 09:36:00 -
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Cajunspitfire wrote:
Vote for Mittens for CSM, He is sexy like that..
Yeah.... mittens is sooo against botters 
Highsec carebear... and proud of it |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
2507
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Posted - 2012.02.16 09:40:00 -
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There's no bots in eve - no mission bots or spam bots in Jita (oh btw Reela nice posting timing you got there... )
/c
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Ezurae
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
30
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Posted - 2012.02.16 09:48:00 -
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Chribba wrote:There's no bots in eve - no mission bots or spam bots in Jita (oh btw Reela nice posting timing you got there...  ) /c
the funny thing is you can even see the pattern and still nothing happens with him. pattern being (54s, 51, 37, 38, 42, 59, 42, 59, 42, 59, 42, 59, 42, 59, 41, 55, 55, after here it repeats: 54, 51, 37, 38 and so on)
http://evelocal.com/Jita/p/Y0T00
is nice too, besides being an recycled scamming alt (he recycles 3 different of them each every month or two) his pattern is even more obvious (40s and 30s alternating). still why would a gm do something about that... These are so obvious bots that their main characters should have been banned long time ago but well...
[sarcasm] Oh yeah btw "Report bot" really works like a charm... [/sarcasm]
oh and this one: "http://evelocal.com/Jita/p/Reia Itinen" (copy the link, board hates the code for spaces in urls)
even harder to figure out that hes a bot... yeaaah |

Jafit
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
23
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Posted - 2012.02.16 09:52:00 -
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Have you run into the botting carriers that are down there yet? |

Crucis Cassiopeiae
EvE-COM
844
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Posted - 2012.02.16 11:11:00 -
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CCP needs to add Botting career on their new web page. Its the most popular career in EVE... so... And when CCP do nothing then its legit...
Just look at old forums. GD first thread on first page. And there is much more threads about botting. And all is left on promises that CCP will do something. |

Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
265
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Posted - 2012.02.16 11:59:00 -
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Get over the botting already. CCP staff that play also bot. You'll never see it go away.
Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold. |

Dane Eham
UNFRL Fleet Operations CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
6
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Posted - 2012.02.16 12:23:00 -
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Serene Repose wrote:Get over the botting already. CCP staff that play also bot. You'll never see it go away. [Citation needed]
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Henry Haphorn
Aliastra Gallente Federation
195
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Posted - 2012.02.16 13:35:00 -
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Dane Eham wrote:Serene Repose wrote:Get over the botting already. CCP staff that play also bot. You'll never see it go away. [Citation needed]
This^ ***CSM Interstellar Debate - Mining Profession*** ***CSM Interstellar Debate - Combat PvP*** |

Karl Planck
131
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Posted - 2012.02.16 14:24:00 -
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Ezurae wrote:Chribba wrote:There's no bots in eve - no mission bots or spam bots in Jita (oh btw Reela nice posting timing you got there...  ) /c the funny thing is you can even see the pattern and still nothing happens with him. pattern being (54s, 51, 37, 38, 42, 59, 42, 59, 42, 59, 42, 59, 42, 59, 41, 55, 55, after here it repeats: 54, 51, 37, 38 and so on) http://evelocal.com/Jita/p/Y0T00is nice too, besides being an recycled scamming alt (he recycles 3 different of them each every month or two) his pattern is even more obvious (40s and 30s alternating). still why would a gm do something about that... These are so obvious bots that their main characters should have been banned long time ago but well... [sarcasm] Oh yeah btw "Report bot" really works like a charm... [/sarcasm] oh and this one: "http://evelocal.com/Jita/p/Reia Itinen" (copy the link, board hates the code for spaces in urls) even harder to figure out that hes a bot... yeaaah
you can do this with a CCP sanctioned gaming keyboard. Not considered to be botting.
However, it IS considered spamming, so just report it correctly =P |

Ezurae
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
30
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Posted - 2012.02.16 14:31:00 -
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Karl Planck wrote: you can do this with a CCP sanctioned gaming keyboard. Not considered to be botting.
However, it IS considered spamming, so just report it correctly =P
that is wrong, it is allowed if it is not automated, if you look at the characters and the timedifference between every of their messages you will notice that these are automated, which is not allowed.
if it werent automated there wouldnt be a pattern which repeats itself all the time. |

Chiggy W
Hard-Luck Industries
28
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Posted - 2012.02.16 14:53:00 -
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There is no botting in Eve, and therefore no illigal RMT either. 
I live in hope of the day that CCP decides to get serious about this problem, and as has been pointed out many many many times before most of these bots aren't particularly hard to spot from a player perspective, it seems that CCP is either unable to spot them (lol) or unwilling to do anything about it.
What I suggest, and has been proving successfull in the drone regions atm is getting an alt put into one of the larger botting empires,( you know those guys with lot's of xxxxx's in their alliance name and rely on PL to protect their operations), and use you're alt to make the tackle on the bot (they don't cloak/POS up for blues) then bring your main(s) in and take over the tackle. Get your alt to leave system, let the bot live for 15 minutes so your alt doesn't appear on the KM, rinse and repeat. Bonus - look for the Golem and Tengu bots, they often drop lot's of shinny loot, so you fight the bot problem, get KM's AND make a decent living. I don't do this personally at the moment, but I know guys who are, and they are having ton's of fun.
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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
393
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Posted - 2012.02.16 15:10:00 -
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Dane Eham wrote:Serene Repose wrote:Get over the botting already. CCP staff that play also bot. You'll never see it go away. [Citation needed]
I thought it was pretty obvious, how is CCP gonna get paid, without botting, or having their own RMT. Signature removed, CCP Phantom |

Ezurae
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
30
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Posted - 2012.02.16 15:32:00 -
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rodyas wrote:Dane Eham wrote:Serene Repose wrote:Get over the botting already. CCP staff that play also bot. You'll never see it go away. [Citation needed] I thought it was pretty obvious, how is CCP gonna get paid, without botting, or having their own RMT.
i would find it pretty funny if CCP wouldn't trade with real money. So yeah they definately got RMT going on there, what a shocker... |

Chiggy W
Hard-Luck Industries
28
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Posted - 2012.02.16 15:53:00 -
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Ezurae wrote:rodyas wrote:Dane Eham wrote:Serene Repose wrote:Get over the botting already. CCP staff that play also bot. You'll never see it go away. [Citation needed] I thought it was pretty obvious, how is CCP gonna get paid, without botting, or having their own RMT. i would find it pretty funny if CCP wouldn't trade with real money. So yeah they definately got RMT going on there, what a shocker...
You're both idiots. You're correct in the sense that CCP RMT's in the form of PLEX, but to suggest a company is a)botting themselves and b) actively involved in the illegal RMT trade is beyond pants-made-of-tinfoil-on-head-********.
If CCP was involved in such things, why would they bother botting when they could just "magic" the ISK into existence, and why would they sell ISK through illegal channels when they do very well with PLEX? Not to mention the shitstorm and PR disaster it would create if ever found. Next you'll be sprouting crap about how it's actually CCP hacking accounts and stealing people's assets.
So please, stop throwing pant's on head ****** accusations out there without [citation] |

Ezurae
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
30
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Posted - 2012.02.16 15:59:00 -
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Chiggy W wrote:Ezurae wrote:rodyas wrote:Dane Eham wrote:Serene Repose wrote:Get over the botting already. CCP staff that play also bot. You'll never see it go away. [Citation needed] I thought it was pretty obvious, how is CCP gonna get paid, without botting, or having their own RMT. i would find it pretty funny if CCP wouldn't trade with real money. So yeah they definately got RMT going on there, what a shocker... You're both idiots. You're correct in the sense that CCP RMT's in the form of PLEX, but to suggest a company is a)botting themselves and b) actively involved in the illegal RMT trade is beyond pants-made-of-tinfoil-on-head-********. If CCP was involved in such things, why would they bother botting when they could just "magic" the ISK into existence, and why would they sell ISK through illegal channels when they do very well with PLEX? Not to mention the shitstorm and PR disaster it would create if ever found. Next you'll be sprouting crap about how it's actually CCP hacking accounts and stealing people's assets. So please, stop throwing pant's on head ****** accusations out there without [citation]
you are the idiot here. every ******* company on our planet is engaged in RMT, do you even know for what RMT stands? REAL MONEY TRADING... ever seen a company who doesnt trade with real money? i didnt...
to make it even more obvious for the not so gifted people: my post was making fun of the fact that rodyas said CCP would have their own RMT, ofc they do, they are a company afterall. Everyone trades with real money...
edit: and for your information CCP doesn't sell isk through plex, they sell gametime. still for real money but i think we already (finally) established that ofc CCP trades with real money |

Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
163
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Posted - 2012.02.16 16:27:00 -
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Ptraci wrote:Herr Wilkus wrote:Actually, no. Reporting them doesn't do anything.
Been reporting the same mining bots for 3 months now, repeatedly, every time I see them in local. Nothing.
Did you ever stop to think that perhaps they are still there because they are NOT bots?
Nope. They bots, smartass. Here's one 'family' - but these are only the ones I've popped - no doubt others out there, or names I've forgotten.
Xavnan Piggreaser Illiamy Drovers Boshaunn Dryadson Astraltrip Loranysy Beestin Silverkini Loyalari Adoianr Gurstin Milnher Dragonso
'Generated' name patterns. Similar Birthdates. Identical Fits. Convo autorejected. Once set up, mine all day until DT. Blow them up, and the pods fly too and fro until DT (until I pod them). Bot has 'fingers' in every several regions, as I've seen the same patterns in Smodab's killboard and he operates in a different region.
Been reporting them for 3 months now. And they are still active, without a visible break. Probably mining right now. I pop them whenever I get a chance, but unfortunately its impossible to automate ganking.
Would be fun to use the Orca-suicide exploit to gank them repeatedly without losing a single Tornado, but a) unlike cheating miners, cheating gankers get permabanned. b) unlike them, I would actually care a bit if I lost my account.
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Joe Skellington
Scientific Nano Technologies Institute The Foundation To Protect Endangered CareBears
41
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Posted - 2012.02.16 16:38:00 -
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Pretend they are Cylons? -á-á |\__/|-á -á/ @ @ \ -á-á -á( > -¦ < )-á -á`-+-+x-½-½-¦ -á-á / O \ |

Hera Chawla
Imperial Guardians The Aurora Shadow
4
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Posted - 2012.02.16 20:33:00 -
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I have reported at least 20 bots while I was down there. I didn't bother reporting every day because I don't think multiple reports help anyone. |

Aylat
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.02.16 21:34:00 -
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To combat bots CCP has to limit the time that you can spend with ratting or mining. There should be a time account that represents the amount of hours that a player is allowed to rat or mine. Per subscribed month 100 hours should be added to that time account. The account should have a cap of 200 hours.
It would heavily reduce the effectiveness of bots while not causing a problem for normal players. No normal player will rat or mine for more than 100 hours per month regularly. It wouldnGÇÖt even be a problem for a player that wants to play a lot for maybe two weeks while he is on vacation as he could just consume the accumulated 200hours within those two weeks.
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Tiven loves Tansien
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
519
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Posted - 2012.02.16 21:48:00 -
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Aylat wrote:To combat bots CCP has to limit the time that you can spend with ratting or mining. There should be a time account that represents the amount of hours that a player is allowed to rat or mine. Per subscribed month 100 hours should be added to that time account. The account should have a cap of 200 hours.
It would heavily reduce the effectiveness of bots while not causing a problem for normal players. No normal player will rat or mine for more than 100 hours per month regularly. It wouldnGÇÖt even be a problem for a player that wants to play a lot for maybe two weeks while he is on vacation as he could just consume the accumulated 200hours within those two weeks.
Stupid beyond limits. |

Nephilius
Grey Legionaires
315
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Posted - 2012.02.16 21:57:00 -
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Cajunspitfire wrote:I fully support the Goon-a-gedden that will rid high sec of bots.
How about nulsec bots? Would you support that too? To stand before a man at an inquisition, knowing that he will rejoice when we die, knowing that he will commit us to the stake and its horrors without a moment's hesitation or remorse if we do not satisfy him, is not an experience much less cruel because our inquisitor does not whip us or rack us or shout at us. |

Pok Nibin
Viziam Amarr Empire
77
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Posted - 2012.02.16 21:59:00 -
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Serene Repose wrote:Get over the botting already. CCP staff that play also bot. You'll never see it go away. Some people never learn, Ms. Repose. We'll be here ten years from now with botting outrage posts. Don't fight it.-á Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs.-á You know you want to. |

Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
268
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Posted - 2012.02.16 22:00:00 -
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Dane Eham wrote:Serene Repose wrote:Get over the botting already. CCP staff that play also bot. You'll never see it go away. [Citation needed] [[How nice for you.]]
Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold. |

Sverige Pahis
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
731
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Posted - 2012.02.16 22:06:00 -
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half of you need to take your meds asap |
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