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KungFU Trader
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Posted - 2008.02.20 02:26:00 -
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Terail Zoqial
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Posted - 2008.02.20 02:45:00 -
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Invent them, if you select the relevant tab it will tell you what components you need.
heheh, only joking, probably got delayed/forgotten/ignored like most things science/manu related.
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KungFU Trader
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Posted - 2008.02.20 02:47:00 -
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Edited by: KungFU Trader on 20/02/2008 02:49:08
So ccp where are they?
I have read about the patch that fixed the mining cycles in 2006 when the guide was written and those of us that wanted to go into .3 and lower (TO ADD TO THE SUPPOSED PVP properties of EVE and mass combat). I have surveyed more moons then I want to count and found some GReAT spots to mine..
ALLL of it every dam bit limited to 100 per hour no matter what because somehow we can have TIER 2 SHIPS mass upgrades to freighters and maulers and t-2 bs and mass blogs in space. We can fix with hotfixes massive amounts of problems and hey even give us more upgrades for our poor ships so we can MINE enough to make a living and provide (NOW READ THIS) (JUST ABOUT EVERY DAM THING U DRIVE RIDE SHOOT comes from either a MINER or missions and thats about it).. Except for those WONDDERFUL drops in 0.0 of anything from 1 million to 75 million trit from a hauler group once |||@@///
But for those of us that are hard core miners and for some reason we love it have had it made so that LOW SEC POS mining is an exercise in futility. I CANT access the full ability of half the moons I want to because THIER is no bloody TECH 2 Mining array..Their is no excuse for it.. HELL make it invented off the tech 1 I DONT CARE just make it worth our while to go into LOW SEC and get my BUTT shot off for a good reason. (and no I did not just die fueling placing moving or doing anything to any POS I have in low sec).
SO i know ccp does not go off the forums (right if u believe that I got swamp land in the middle of the atlantic with your name on it) so while you moderator or dev or whoever read this do you think you could give us a great response.
ALSO 50 MAN YEARS was the touted amount of time for trinity and the graphics engine and VISTA compatible and DX10 etc etc etc
BUT I AINT SEEN ONE UPGRADE TO MY MINING for a pos...HELL we even got towers that lower FUEL cost (have to have it in the ground for a good 6 months to see a big differnce). SO FOR all you LOW sec POS miners the SLOGG through the slow painful process SIGN this and lets let CCP KNOW its unacceptable to have something in game for 2 years that encourages LOW sec incursions by CAREBEARS as they are called and then nothing is delivered that truly makes it worth while.
ALSO all you have done is driven the people that have NO SEC rating that want to do any kind of POS BPC research into low sec next to a NPC station with remote access and they take just about NO risk at all as they run around in a shuttle....at least a miner has to run out to the POS and get the ORE and move out...yeah yeah cap ships we dont all have im even though we may should..
SO hell this is good....PVP people want us in low sec..we want to go to low sec to MINE so we can build better ships to make money and then PVP can have thier TECH 2 gear hell even at a cheaper rate if competition goes up..THIS will increase competion in LOWER sec between corps that want better moons...HELL all out war.
U WANT US CAREBEAR MINERS IN LOW SEC U PVP NEED TO SIGN THIS AS WEll.
Ok now lets see what kind of reactions i get..Puts on flameproof anti dummy suit and sits in his pos waiting for the assault
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Treelox
Amarr
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.02.20 03:21:00 -
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They are being stored inside the missing 6th amarrian frig.
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Wolverine Quick
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Posted - 2008.02.20 03:27:00 -
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Thats a pretty good one....IM gonna suggest that they either totally forgot about it or have shelved it...I mean u didnt hear word one about drones fixes until they come out with the fix.....
More carebears in low sec for people to shoot at..
WHO can beat that for crying out loud
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KungFU Trader
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Posted - 2008.02.20 03:33:00 -
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Hey just checking can anybodyLINK me anything about this...I been scouring the forums for it and cant find any clarifier on time fram or anything...tried dev blogs but i must be blind.
HELP make LOWSEC worth the RISK for the CAREBEAR
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ghosttr
Amarr
ARK-CORP
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Posted - 2008.02.20 03:42:00 -
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 Originally by: Treelox
They are being stored inside the missing 6th amarrian frig.
This
You wont see a single t2 mining whatever until we get our missing frig. So get to building my frigate mr industrialist
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Gamesguy
Amarr
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.02.20 05:28:00 -
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Originally by: Wolverine Quick
Thats a pretty good one....IM gonna suggest that they either totally forgot about it or have shelved it...I mean u didnt hear word one about drones fixes until they come out with the fix.....
More carebears in low sec for people to shoot at..
WHO can beat that for crying out loud
Except ccp didnt. They intentionally decided to NOT release it because it would screw with the economy. A dev said they may release it if t2 component prices continue to skyrocket, but it didnt so it wont be released.
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KungFU Trader
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Posted - 2008.02.20 05:58:00 -
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Yeah no offense u mind postin a link to where they said that cause im not a fan of he said she said. Also I have no idea where they are thinking its going to screw with the economy as I know traders with billions of isk that control markets with ease as is..
Another thing is that with INVENTION as a part of the process u are always going to guarantee a good economy with T2 because of the massive time sink into skills and databases cores need.
I dont trust this answer no offense I think its a cop out unless I can see solid proof that a DEV said this and that it is completely valid statement
EVEN IF IT IS ITS STUPID to say that because the availability of this minerals may make the T-2 components easier to make but its still a lot of process involved to make just one t-2 component and still costs a good deal of isk.
ITS a player made economy people not a CCP made one,,They dont control anything but the NPC side of things the rest is all us.
WHERE IS MY T-2 harvster CCP we think its about time we get one
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.02.20 07:29:00 -
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Edited by: Venkul Mul on 20/02/2008 07:30:04
From what I recall it was a comment in the Outpost and starbases forum, the the Dev was saying something like: "We are keeping an eye on the T2 moons material. If there is a shortage we will do something".
The thread was about opening 0.4 or more moons to moon mining, and some guy as asked about the T2 moon mining harrays too.
So it wasn't a direct answer.
And as replies in the thread about dev statements in this forum have pointed out, it is in no way a official statement.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2008.02.20 07:38:00 -
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On the topic of the missing 6th frig of Amarr's... Amarr actually have 8 frigs while all other races have 7 in total.
Minnie, Caldari and Gallente has 6 normal + one Navy, Amarr on the other hand has 5 normal + one Navy + Gold and Silver Magnate.
Now back on topic.
Mining rigs are in the db exports so I assume we will see them sometime in the future.
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Deadly Addiction
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Posted - 2008.02.20 08:06:00 -
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Maybe they don't want to flood the market who knows
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.20 08:14:00 -
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CCP put them in the same shipping container as the WCS II... but that ship hit an iceberg off the coast of Mexico and still hasn't been found
Originally by: Avaricia
look a goon lol
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Deadly Addiction
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Posted - 2008.02.20 08:18:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
CCP put them in the same shipping container as the WCS II... but that ship hit an iceberg off the coast of Mexico and still hasn't been found
WCS II's exist but are pretty much useless compared to their t1 counterparts
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KungFU Trader
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Posted - 2008.02.20 21:58:00 -
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Well come on now one of you forum warriors has got to be able to find a link to where he said she said about when these are coming out. Also its great that they are going to have mining rigs.
Why not make moon mining a skill base...Have to train certain skills to get more out of the moon and goes in increments from basic moon mining to advanced moon mining. This would at least give us some kind of input to making it all worth while... Heck we could do this while waiting for the T-2 harvesters which have not shown up in the last 2 years of waiting... NO is not an acceptable answer for this.. Use the system you have in place to make an alternative so that we MINERS have a good reason to risk everything in low sec..
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moozoo
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Posted - 2008.02.20 22:03:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba
On the topic of the missing 6th frig of Amarr's... Amarr actually have 8 frigs while all other races have 7 in total.
Minnie, Caldari and Gallente has 6 normal + one Navy, Amarr on the other hand has 5 normal + one Navy + Gold and Silver Magnate.
Now back on topic.
Mining rigs are in the db exports so I assume we will see them sometime in the future.
THE GOLD/SILVER MAGNATE DO NOT COUNT!!! THESE ARE SHIPS THAT 99.9% OF EVE WILL NEVER SEE LET ALONE OWN. And is that an excuse for why we don't have an astrometrics frigate NO!
The missing frig situation is NOT balanced and need fixing. Becuase fankly nobody care about a ship that they will never see nor own, but we do care about Amarrian pilots being able to do astrometrics without being forced to cross train another race
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Alora Venoda
Caldari
GalTech
Giant Space Amoeba
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Posted - 2008.02.20 23:16:00 -
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well in one dev blog they asked about ideas for new ores to buff mining as a profession. well, how about getting moon minerals from certain roids? heck, add a new kind of skill and mining module/ship/etc would be nice. i also wouldn't mind finding a roid that yields enriched uranium, or some blueprints for robotics or coolant.
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